Ryan Rusillo: Hayward “does want out” of his deal

[tonydelk]

Im getting a feeling that Hayward is gonna just pull a Horford.

Bad feeling we lose another asset for absolutely nothing as opposed to making a mid season deal for something, anything at all.

This makes a lot of sense tbh, provided there’s a team with cap space willing to take him on.

From Hayward’s POV, leaving means:
1. Likely more money. Likely near max
2. Bigger role and assured crunch time minutes
3. Possibility to become an all star
4. Winning is TBD (but it’s up to him if he can turn a team to a contender)

Meanwhile, staying means:
1. 30M for 1 year and then discounted years after that
2. 4th banana behind Kemba/JB/JT. Could get benched at the end of games too in favor of Smart/Theis
3. No chance of becoming an all star
4. ECF contender and a dark horse to win it all

Very good summary.  I just hope that the relationship between Gordon and Brad allow the c's to recoup assets versus losing him for nothing.  This will be interesting to watch.

[Greengang5]

Im getting a feeling that Hayward is gonna just pull a Horford.

Bad feeling we lose another asset for absolutely nothing as opposed to making a mid season deal for something, anything at all.

This makes a lot of sense tbh, provided there’s a team with cap space willing to take him on.

From Hayward’s POV, leaving means:
1. Likely more money. Likely near max
2. Bigger role and assured crunch time minutes
3. Possibility to become an all star
4. Winning is TBD (but it’s up to him if he can turn a team to a contender)

Meanwhile, staying means:
1. 30M for 1 year and then discounted years after that
2. 4th banana behind Kemba/JB/JT. Could get benched at the end of games too in favor of Smart/Theis
3. No chance of becoming an all star
4. ECF contender and a dark horse to win it all

I would chose the first option and never look back.  If Hayward was 34/35 then option 2 is a no brainer.  I don't see Celtics being true title contenders for another 2-3 years if Hayward leaves. Don't trust Kemba's knee and J's are there yet.

[dannyboy35]

  Healthy, I don’t see Hayward eVer being not on the floor late in games. He’s their most intelligent player and although not smart on d he is an above average defender. Hayward is the guy that will help us from keep jacking dumb shots by helping guys get much better ones.
   But I’d I’m Hayward I’d be king gone. Wouldn’t look back. Half of Boston doesn’t even want him here if he’s healthy. They think he’s just an above average player which is ridiculous.
  Hope he stays but if that’s not financially possible I still hope he proves people wrong next year and has an all star season and the people that angrily blame him for getting injured can eat it.

[footey]

Adam Kaufman on Celtics Beat podcast suggested that if Gordon wants out, could be driven by Robyn, who does not seem to be liked by Boston media and fans.   It's a fair point.

[Greengang5]

Adam Kaufman on Celtics Beat podcast suggested that if Gordon wants out, could be driven by Robyn, who does not seem to be liked by Boston media and fans.   It's a fair point.

Wife always has a say, but I dont buy it. They have 4 kids and he bought the family a home back in their home state. He can't necessarily pick Indiana without other people agreeing and working it out. Would she push Atlanta just because some fans are idiots?  Doubt it.  They understand the league and how it works.  Hayward has a smart agent. Every fan base has idiots.  This is all predicated on what Hayward wants to do with his last big contract, championship, all star, #2