Way too early offseason predictions/suggestion.

[letsgoblue86]

Trade up for Wiseman?

[boscel33]

I'm running it back!  I hope we'd have a healthy RWilliams/Romeo/Hayward/Walker all year.

I slide hayward to the 6th man and move GWilliams into the PF starting role.

I hope that RWilliamscan also get into the starting C role.

RWill/GWill/Tatum/Brown/Walker  off the bench is Smart/Romeo/Hayward/Theis and others.

I saw a mock draft that had Boston sending all three 1st to Detroit for the seven.  In the seven, they took Tyrese Haliburton.  I don't know a whole lot about him, but seems a fit at PG, just not sure as a scorer.....

[Jvalin]

Unpopular trade idea

Feel free to criticize me for it. I deserve it!

Celtics in: #8 + future Knicks first
Knicks in: Kemba (they absorb his contract via their cap space)

Why for the C's
- Kemba doesn't share the same time window with Tatum-Brown.
- It's possible that he's facing a chronic issue with his left knee.
- I'm not a big fan of paying Kemba $37,653,300 in 2022-2023. He'll be 33 years old at the end of that season.
- Hayward's contract comes off the books in 2021. We could go after a max free agent in 2021 (Giannis, Kawhi, George, you name it).

Obviously, we only do the trade if we have a player in mind at #8. Personally speaking, my target would be Haliburton. If he isn't on the board at #8, I wouldn't pull the trigger.

Why for the Knicks
- Most scouts believe that this year's draft isn't heavy on star players.
- The Knicks are desperate to sign a star.
- Hopefully (on their part), Kemba would help them attract more stars in the future via free agency.

Fwiw, Kemba is from Harlem, NY. Given that he grew up a Knicks fan, he may enjoy the idea of playing for his hometown team. After all, NYC is an attractive destination for many players.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Trade up for Wiseman?

I actually mentioned this to a friend who's a GSW fan. I gave him this scenario.

To GSW:
Gordon Hayward, Robert Williams, 2020 #14, #30.

To Boston:
Andrew Wiggins, #2.

He said no. LOL.

[RJ87]

- Hire Thibs as our defensive coordinator
- Bring experienced veterans who will guide and bark on the team if they are on a wrong track.
- Dump useless bench players like Semi for another vet.
- Consolidate draft picks to acquire an actual fill for a need.

Did the Knicks already fire him as HC? I know NYC is tough market but sheesh....

[DefenseWinsChamps]

Unpopular trade idea

Feel free to criticize me for it. I deserve it!

Celtics in: #8 + future Knicks first
Knicks in: Kemba (they absorb his contract via their cap space)

Why for the C's
- Kemba doesn't share the same time window with Tatum-Brown.
- It's possible that he's facing a chronic issue with his left knee.
- I'm not a big fan of paying Kemba $37,653,300 in 2022-2023. He'll be 33 years old at the end of that season.
- Hayward's contract comes off the books in 2021. We could go after a max free agent in 2021 (Giannis, Kawhi, George, you name it).

Obviously, we only do the trade if we have a player in mind at #8. Personally speaking, my target would be Haliburton. If he isn't on the board at #8, I wouldn't pull the trigger.

Why for the Knicks
- Most scouts believe that this year's draft isn't heavy on star players.
- The Knicks are desperate to sign a star.
- Hopefully (on their part), Kemba would help them attract more stars in the future via free agency.

Fwiw, Kemba is from Harlem, NY. Given that he grew up a Knicks fan, he may enjoy the idea of playing for his hometown team. After all, NYC is an attractive destination for many players.

Not unpopular necessarily. I think a lot of fans see something like this possibility. Problem is that most of us feel dirty when we think of it.

[DefenseWinsChamps]

Trade up for Wiseman?

I actually mentioned this to a friend who's a GSW fan. I gave him this scenario.

To GSW:
Gordon Hayward, Robert Williams, 2020 #14, #30.

To Boston:
Andrew Wiggins, #2.

He said no. LOL.

The Warriors do that trade. I know they are hoping the Bucks panic trade Giannis, but that isn't happening. Siakim could be another solid possibility, but I don't think the Raptors are making any trades there yet.

Gordon Hayward would be a perfect fit in that system next to Curry and Thompson. He would fill parts of the Iggy/Livingston role on offense while providing solid defense. Robert Williams would be amazing for them.

Problem is that the Cs have to say no. They can't have Wiggins contract locked in with Tatum's new contract after this year. They'd be way into the luxury tax and against the hard cap. Plus, Wiggins plays the same position as our best players, without Hayward's shot creation and defense. Wiggins would have to be diverted to a third team. Teams like the Knicks and the Hornets could absorb most of his contract with the idea that they get a young 20 ppg scorer. One of those teams could send back a player like Zeller or Randle or Gibson to give the Cs some more depth and cap flexibility moving forward.

The Cs would get a rotation big man and the 2nd pick. Ainge would really have to believe a guy at 2 would make this team a contender.

[slamtheking]

Trade up for Wiseman?

I actually mentioned this to a friend who's a GSW fan. I gave him this scenario.

To GSW:
Gordon Hayward, Robert Williams, 2020 #14, #30.

To Boston:
Andrew Wiggins, #2.

He said no. LOL.

The Warriors do that trade. I know they are hoping the Bucks panic trade Giannis, but that isn't happening. Siakim could be another solid possibility, but I don't think the Raptors are making any trades there yet.

Gordon Hayward would be a perfect fit in that system next to Curry and Thompson. He would fill parts of the Iggy/Livingston role on offense while providing solid defense. Robert Williams would be amazing for them.

Problem is that the Cs have to say no. They can't have Wiggins contract locked in with Tatum's new contract after this year. They'd be way into the luxury tax and against the hard cap. Plus, Wiggins plays the same position as our best players, without Hayward's shot creation and defense. Wiggins would have to be diverted to a third team. Teams like the Knicks and the Hornets could absorb most of his contract with the idea that they get a young 20 ppg scorer. One of those teams could send back a player like Zeller or Randle or Gibson to give the Cs some more depth and cap flexibility moving forward.

The Cs would get a rotation big man and the 2nd pick. Ainge would really have to believe a guy at 2 would make this team a contender.

yeah, pretty much this.  not enough of a return for Hayward, Timelord and 2 first rounders.  The #2 pick this year isn't projected to be as good as a healthy Hayward in his prime.  never mind an athletic big man prospect, end-of-lottery prospect and another first rounder in a year where the talent level is pretty flat through the first round and beyond.  add the headache of trying to flip Wiggins to a 3rd team and it's just not worth it for another project (#2) and couple of journeymen for the bench

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

Said this elsewhere, but I'll say it again: Danny drafts more combo guards who can't shoot and/or undersized "bigs." And he again fails to land 1) a deadeye shooter and 2) a legit defensive big who can handle guys like Adebayo.

He'll get another Semi Ojeleye/Brad Wanamaker/Tremont Waters. He'll get another undersized big like Theis but making sure they can space the floor and shoot ineffective 3's.

Yeah, I'll be surprised if it's anything but this, LOL.

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

Said this elsewhere, but I'll say it again: Danny drafts more combo guards who can't shoot and/or undersized "bigs." And he again fails to land 1) a deadeye shooter and 2) a legit defensive big who can handle guys like Adebayo.

Interestingly Adebayo's frame isn't that much bigger than Theis:

Adebayo: 6-9, 250 lbs
Theis: 6-8, 245 lbs

Must be something wrong with that German beef that Theis eats 

Not much difference in size, but a huge difference in physical force and game impact.

[gouki88]

A question to everyone.

Would we be better or worse with, say, Kevin Love?

I think Kevin Love is toast. He'll still put up nightly 16/10 games with good shooting and some great outlet passes, but he's 32, makes Hayward look like AC Green, and is not a good defender. He's at this stage an older, considerably worse (at scoring and defence) and considerably less durable Vucevic

[PhoSita]

A question to everyone.

Would we be better or worse with, say, Kevin Love?

I think Kevin Love is toast. He'll still put up nightly 16/10 games with good shooting and some great outlet passes, but he's 32, makes Hayward look like AC Green, and is not a good defender. He's at this stage an older, considerably worse (at scoring and defence) and considerably less durable Vucevic

Agreed, K-Love isn't the answer. 

[LilRip]

A question to everyone.

Would we be better or worse with, say, Kevin Love?

Not gonna lie, this has crossed my mind too. But K love is likely close to Kanter on D. While it’d be great to have him as a legit shooter and legit playmaker, he’s not the catch he once was.

He can still really score though I think.

[Stig]

whatever we do better improve the starting 5, otherwise it would be the same group of people in the last quarter next year, unless Tatum make a KD level jump, we are not going much further than this year.

[ozgod]

There's rumors on Twitter than the Celtics are interested in Ibaka, who will hit FA this offseason. He's currently on $24m. He would have to take a big paycut. If we can make the numbers work somehow should we be interested?

https://twitter.com/Max_Lederman/status/1310576113660420098