Way too early offseason predictions/suggestion.

[Somebody]

Hayward for Ingles and Bogdanovic, lol

If you've read my posts through the years, I've often used Ingles as my example of somebody who would fill the Hayward role beautifully for a fraction of the price.

With Gobert and Mitchell reportedly not feeling each other, I wonder if there is any way to expand the deal to Gobert and Ingles for Hayward and ?

I imagine Theis would be a must. Could throwing all of our picks this year possibly get it done or would they demand Smart? Maybe the picks and Langford? If I sound like I am criminally underrating what it would take to get Gobert, then I apologize. He is so easy to acquire in GM mode in NBA2K 

I fear that gobert is a guy who gets played off the floor against certain teams in the playoffs.

If your center can't shoot they really need to be able to take guys off the dribble the way bam does.

He has massive vertical gravity (7'2 frame and is very smart at screening and rolling) so he won't be a minus offensively imo.

[jpotter33]

Not sure why people are gung ho on the idea of trading Hayward. His skillset is perfect next to the Jays and Kemba - his ability to shoot, pass and create without dominating the ball allows him to add value to our offence without taking away from the on-ball value of Kemba and the Jays. I'd keep our core 5 and try to use the MLE/Kanter/flotsam/picks to acquire 2-3 quality rotation players.

Maybe because he's an enticing asset as an expiring contract, and also still is a good player. Let's not forget, before he got injured, he was looking like the Gordon Hayward of old.

With Jayson Tatum's emerging playmaking game, I think we can finally say that Hayward won't be a huge loss. Certainly would have no issues having him, but if we're talking about improving the team, if need be, we shouldn't hesitate in including him in any trade talks.

Yeah, while I like Gordy and think he could still work for us, Tatum's emergence as a playmaker does allow us to look away from him if need be. I still would like to try and lock him up for a smaller number long-term.

That said, I still want to see a full year of our starters with Kemba, Brown, Hayward, Tatum, and Timelord with Smart, Theis, GWill, and Romeo off the bench. Injuries really set us back this year and didn't let us get to see the full potential of this group, but I think that's a title caliber team with the Jays' emergence.

I would entertain a Hayward trade if it brought us something back we need in return, but I think our biggest needs are to improve our bench and get another knock-down shooter. And for God's sake let's get us some more vets to play and stop relying so heavily on rookies and young guys off the bench!

[jambr380]

Hayward for Ingles and Bogdanovic, lol

If you've read my posts through the years, I've often used Ingles as my example of somebody who would fill the Hayward role beautifully for a fraction of the price.

With Gobert and Mitchell reportedly not feeling each other, I wonder if there is any way to expand the deal to Gobert and Ingles for Hayward and ?

I imagine Theis would be a must. Could throwing all of our picks this year possibly get it done or would they demand Smart? Maybe the picks and Langford? If I sound like I am criminally underrating what it would take to get Gobert, then I apologize. He is so easy to acquire in GM mode in NBA2K 

I fear that gobert is a guy who gets played off the floor against certain teams in the playoffs.

If your center can't shoot they really need to be able to take guys off the dribble the way bam does.

He has massive vertical gravity (7'2 frame and is very smart at screening and rolling) so he won't be a minus offensively imo.

Yeah, I typically would agree with this assessment of a big, clunky player, but Gobert is a DPOY type big who really makes things difficult with his massive size, strength, and instincts down low. We have two All-Star wings and Kemba who can score from anywhere on the floor. He would get so many easy looks down low while getting our guys so many open looks off his incredible screens.

[keevsnick]

Not sure why people are gung ho on the idea of trading Hayward. His skillset is perfect next to the Jays and Kemba - his ability to shoot, pass and create without dominating the ball allows him to add value to our offence without taking away from the on-ball value of Kemba and the Jays. I'd keep our core 5 and try to use the MLE/Kanter/flotsam/picks to acquire 2-3 quality rotation players.

How did Hayward’s skill set look tonight? You can’t pay a nice complimentary passive player like Hayward max money. If he was 10 million a year? Sure but you need to get more out of a max slot than what he has given the Celtics. He is so overrated and soft it’s ridiculous.

Looked like he was injured off a grade 3 ankle sprain , these small sample playoff takes are hilarious lol.

Well given that he's been injured or recovering from injuries all three playoffs really not a  lot to go off is there?

[jpotter33]

Hayward for Ingles and Bogdanovic, lol

If you've read my posts through the years, I've often used Ingles as my example of somebody who would fill the Hayward role beautifully for a fraction of the price.

With Gobert and Mitchell reportedly not feeling each other, I wonder if there is any way to expand the deal to Gobert and Ingles for Hayward and ?

I imagine Theis would be a must. Could throwing all of our picks this year possibly get it done or would they demand Smart? Maybe the picks and Langford? If I sound like I am criminally underrating what it would take to get Gobert, then I apologize. He is so easy to acquire in GM mode in NBA2K 

Now this is what I'm talking about . Gobert should be really hard to acquire with how valuable he is (he'd be the best player on our squad today), but Utah doesn't seem to recognise that.

Um, sarcasm? Please God I hope it is.

[Somebody]

Hayward for Ingles and Bogdanovic, lol

If you've read my posts through the years, I've often used Ingles as my example of somebody who would fill the Hayward role beautifully for a fraction of the price.

With Gobert and Mitchell reportedly not feeling each other, I wonder if there is any way to expand the deal to Gobert and Ingles for Hayward and ?

I imagine Theis would be a must. Could throwing all of our picks this year possibly get it done or would they demand Smart? Maybe the picks and Langford? If I sound like I am criminally underrating what it would take to get Gobert, then I apologize. He is so easy to acquire in GM mode in NBA2K 

Now this is what I'm talking about . Gobert should be really hard to acquire with how valuable he is (he'd be the best player on our squad today), but Utah doesn't seem to recognise that.

Um, sarcasm? Please God I hope it is.

I'm the one hoping you're being sarcastic in your post tbh

[86MaxwellSmart]

Biggest reason I'd like to see Hayward gone...He's mentally fragile.....if he's not feeling 100%, he's mediocre at best.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

How about we just bring Boogie Cousins in for the TPMLR and call this a settled thread, eh?

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

Said this elsewhere, but I'll say it again: Danny drafts more combo guards who can't shoot and/or undersized "bigs." And he again fails to land 1) a deadeye shooter and 2) a legit defensive big who can handle guys like Adebayo.

[SparzWizard]

Said this elsewhere, but I'll say it again: Danny drafts more combo guards who can't shoot and/or undersized "bigs." And he again fails to land 1) a deadeye shooter and 2) a legit defensive big who can handle guys like Adebayo.

He'll get another Semi Ojeleye/Brad Wanamaker/Tremont Waters. He'll get another undersized big like Theis but making sure they can space the floor and shoot ineffective 3's.

[designmao]

I would trade one of Tatum or Brown. Jaylen, with the bigger contract and as the centerpiece can bring back a more fair/even trade. Try to get back a starter and bench for depth (big guys)

Move Smart to the bench where he can contribute more and minimize his bad tendencies.

Point is to designate Tatum as your definite 1. He needs to take take the next step to be a legitimate superstar in the league.

[Sketch5]

If we end up keeping Hayward I think he should lose 10 to 15 lbs. he needs to get some speed and mobility, it wasn’t just these games, but all season.

Kemba has a tradable contract, it’s a jerk move, but if he can’t score he’s almost point less out there, at least Smart can D people up.

The think is this team was made on the fly, we lose Irving and Horford, and Morris and only really replaced Irving. We had no bench really, a biq issue is I think we were some what gassed at the end of games that no one from the bench stepped up.

With the team as is, we need a pick and roll big for the offense and defense, we already have ourr Tony Allen and Big Baby in Smart and GW. But we need a Posey and House. Not sure how we can get our hand on those prices with out giving up a big piece. But I’d be okay with Kemba for Adams and Schroeder. Might have to get a third team like NY.

Or kick the tires on Beal and Bryant with NY helping. Hayward could play PG for the team were he would fit best.

[ozgod]

Said this elsewhere, but I'll say it again: Danny drafts more combo guards who can't shoot and/or undersized "bigs." And he again fails to land 1) a deadeye shooter and 2) a legit defensive big who can handle guys like Adebayo.

Interestingly Adebayo's frame isn't that much bigger than Theis:

Adebayo: 6-9, 250 lbs
Theis: 6-8, 245 lbs

Must be something wrong with that German beef that Theis eats 

[Somebody]

Does anyone want to keep our big man rotation as it is unless there's a Giannis/Gobert opportunity? Robert and Grant are almost certain to improve (****ing play Grant more Brad), Kanter is useful in specific matchups, Theis is great and Poirier will be better after a year of acclimatising to the NBA. I feel that Robert can develop into a decent Theis alternative and Grant can soak up the rest of the C minutes as a small ball 5 next season.

[Birdman]

Only difference u will see in this year team and next year team is more rookies...Hayward & Enes will opt in..hopefully they let Semi go..just need a couple of vets on the bench and another decent big guy and we good to go!  I’m proud what they did this year..I didn’t expect them to reach the ECF...congrats to Miami, they played great, now beat LA!!!!