2020 Historic Draft: How’s My Team Look: Conference Finals winners announced!!

[gouki88]

12 rounds done - what do people think of the LA Clippers:

PG: Stephen Curry / Deron Williams / Penny Hardaway
SG: Michael Redd / Doug Christie
SF: Grant Hill / Hedo Turkoglu
PF: Elton Brand / Lamar Odom / Josh Smith
C: Joakim Noah / Andrew Bynum

That's a real solid squad.  Spacing should be pretty good.  Love your guards.   Don't know what I think about Noah as a starter here.

While there might be some concern offensively, his awesome defense was just what that team need. Noah quarterbacked some great defenses in his prime.

This is where I'm at on Noah. I don't need him taking any shots really. I view him as basically a juiced up version of Andrew Bogut, who Curry worked great with

[RPGenerate]

12 rounds done - what do people think of the LA Clippers:

PG: Stephen Curry / Deron Williams / Penny Hardaway
SG: Michael Redd / Doug Christie
SF: Grant Hill / Hedo Turkoglu
PF: Elton Brand / Lamar Odom / Josh Smith
C: Joakim Noah / Andrew Bynum

That's a real solid squad.  Spacing should be pretty good.  Love your guards.   Don't know what I think about Noah as a starter here.

While there might be some concern offensively, his awesome defense was just what that team need. Noah quarterbacked some great defenses in his prime.

This is where I'm at on Noah. I don't need him taking any shots really. I view him as basically a juiced up version of Andrew Bogut, who Curry worked great with

He could also operate a bit like Draymond in terms of Noah's passing, which was probably his best attribute on offense.

[Somebody]

12 man rotation for the Toronto Raptors

PG: Kyle Lowry, Kemba Walker
SG: Vince Carter, Donovan Mitchell, Malcolm Brogdon
SF: Khris Middleton, Luol Deng, Danilo Gallinari
PF: Kevin Garnett, Antawn Jamison
C: David Robinson, Vlade Divac

Thoughts on what I could try to shore up my team? I'm really happy with how the team has turned out, I know the offence doesn't look super gaudy, but it's effective, and the defence looks to be absolutely elite.

[Roy H.]

12 man rotation for the Toronto Raptors

PG: Kyle Lowry, Kemba Walker
SG: Vince Carter, Donovan Mitchell, Malcolm Brogdon
SF: Khris Middleton, Luol Deng, Danilo Gallinari
PF: Kevin Garnett, Antawn Jamison
C: David Robinson, Vlade Divac

Thoughts on what I could try to shore up my team? I'm really happy with how the team has turned out, I know the offence doesn't look super gaudy but it's effective, and the defence looks to be absolutely elite.

No major weaknesses.  Get yourself a third center for when you match up with Shaq.

[wdleehi]

After 12 rounds, the 76ers

Ballhandlers:  Chauncey Billups, Sam Cassell, Kirk Hinrich

Swing:  Lebron James, Ray Allen, Gerald Wallace, Michael Finley

Bigs: Rudy Gobert, Paul Millsap,  Antoine Walker, Zach Randolph, Domantas Sabonis


I have a good idea who to pick with the next two picks and have plenty of choices. 

[wdleehi]

12 man rotation for the Toronto Raptors

PG: Kyle Lowry, Kemba Walker
SG: Vince Carter, Donovan Mitchell, Malcolm Brogdon
SF: Khris Middleton, Luol Deng, Danilo Gallinari
PF: Kevin Garnett, Antawn Jamison
C: David Robinson, Vlade Divac

Thoughts on what I could try to shore up my team? I'm really happy with how the team has turned out, I know the offence doesn't look super gaudy, but it's effective, and the defence looks to be absolutely elite.

At this point, a speedy defender to deal with the quick PGs and one more big man that has 6 hard fouls.

[wdleehi]

12 rounds done - what do people think of the LA Clippers:

PG: Stephen Curry / Deron Williams / Penny Hardaway
SG: Michael Redd / Doug Christie
SF: Grant Hill / Hedo Turkoglu
PF: Elton Brand / Lamar Odom / Josh Smith
C: Joakim Noah / Andrew Bynum

I would use Brand as the 2nd C even if he starts at PF and use Odom/Smith at PF more then Bynum at C. 

[wdleehi]

Through 12 rounds.  Brooklyn Nets


2020 CS Historical Draft

PG- Andre Miller
SG- Tracy McGrady
SF- Shawn Marion
PF- Anthony Davis
C- Yao Ming

Bench: Allen Iverson, Blake Griffin, Theo Ratliff, David West, Shane Battier, CJ McCollum, Eddie House

Love the team except for AI.   He is not going to be able to "get his" to the level he would accept.   

If somehow you are able to either brainwash him or get him when his money ran out, he would make a great offensive spark off the bench.

[DefenseWinsChamps]

Through 12 rounds.  Brooklyn Nets


2020 CS Historical Draft

PG- Andre Miller
SG- Tracy McGrady
SF- Shawn Marion
PF- Anthony Davis
C- Yao Ming

Bench: Allen Iverson, Blake Griffin, Theo Ratliff, David West, Shane Battier, CJ McCollum, Eddie House

By far my favorite team. You left me scratching my head a bit with the House pick. I used to love the guy, but there are far better guys on the board. Like others, I don't love AI or Miller at the point for you either. If you could get a slightly better fit there as a guy who could defend, shoot, and run an offense, I would think you would be the favorite in this competition.

[Donoghus]

Through 12 rounds.  Brooklyn Nets


2020 CS Historical Draft

PG- Andre Miller
SG- Tracy McGrady
SF- Shawn Marion
PF- Anthony Davis
C- Yao Ming

Bench: Allen Iverson, Blake Griffin, Theo Ratliff, David West, Shane Battier, CJ McCollum, Eddie House

By far my favorite team. You left me scratching my head a bit with the House pick. I used to love the guy, but there are far better guys on the board. Like others, I don't love AI or Miller at the point for you either. If you could get a slightly better fit there as a guy who could defend, shoot, and run an offense, I would think you would be the favorite in this competition.

That was pure binkydom & not yet having a Celtic on my team.  Nothing else.   Figured why not in the 12th.

[Donoghus]

Through 12 rounds.  Brooklyn Nets


2020 CS Historical Draft

PG- Andre Miller
SG- Tracy McGrady
SF- Shawn Marion
PF- Anthony Davis
C- Yao Ming

Bench: Allen Iverson, Blake Griffin, Theo Ratliff, David West, Shane Battier, CJ McCollum, Eddie House

Love the team except for AI.   He is not going to be able to "get his" to the level he would accept.   

If somehow you are able to either brainwash him or get him when his money ran out, he would make a great offensive spark off the bench.

Yeah, legit criticism.  I mentioned a few days ago that I saw glimpse of his ability to accept more of a team role when it came to his national team & ASG team play.   That's about all I got in terms of getting him to buy in.

[Roy H.]

Through 12 rounds.  Brooklyn Nets


2020 CS Historical Draft

PG- Andre Miller
SG- Tracy McGrady
SF- Shawn Marion
PF- Anthony Davis
C- Yao Ming

Bench: Allen Iverson, Blake Griffin, Theo Ratliff, David West, Shane Battier, CJ McCollum, Eddie House

By far my favorite team. You left me scratching my head a bit with the House pick. I used to love the guy, but there are far better guys on the board. Like others, I don't love AI or Miller at the point for you either. If you could get a slightly better fit there as a guy who could defend, shoot, and run an offense, I would think you would be the favorite in this competition.

I love the watchability of Dons’ team, but I don’t necessarily see it as being a top-tier contender.  A dark horse for sure.

[Jvalin]

The draft was very deep. I mean, Allen Iverson got selected in the 6th round for crying out loud! All teams are packed with superstars. With this in mind, the most valuable players (excluding the megastars) are the ones who thrive playing off the ball. Personally speaking, the #1 point of concern going into the draft was selecting players who are happy to be deployed off the ball. Last thing I wanted was to create a team full of stars who cannot coexist in the same lineup. Remember the 2018-2019 Celtics? They failed not because they weren't talented enough, but because they had too much talent! In a vacuum, the starting lineup was loaded!

Kyrie - Brown - Hayward - Tatum - Horford

Unfortunately, there weren't enough shots for everybody and we ended up a dysfunctional team.

Anyway, back on topic. As things stand right now, I got 5 off-ball specialists, plus Kawhi who's perfectly happy to play off the ball as well.

Klay Thompson
The guy once scored 60 points in 11 dribbles! Need I say more? Compare that to (let's say) Harden who may also score 60, but he's a ball hog.

Btw, this is part of the reason why I traded Ray Allen for Klay Thompson. Ray is a better shot creator (either for himself or for his teammates). I would even concede that he's a better shooter. I mean, stats tell a different story, but Ray was taking more difficult shots. Thing is, I got Luka/Westbrook on the ball, hence I wouldn't be using Ray as a shot creator. All I needed was a catch and shoot specialist who plays hard D. Klay is the epitome of this. Literarily the perfect guy to put next to Luka/Westbrook.

Kawhi Leonard
To a lesser extent, the same goes for Kawhi. He used to be an off-ball player during most of his years in San Antonio. Imo, this was the reason he had the slowest ascent to stardom than any other star in the modern game (if not in NBA history). It's not that he wasn't good enough. The guy won Finals MVP at the age of 23! It's just that he was happy to sit back and be the perfect teammate. Kawhi is Scottie Pippen with a jump shot!

Bruce Bowen
Him and Klay are the perfect 3+D players.
5× NBA All-Defensive First Team (2004–2008)
3× NBA All-Defensive Second Team (2001–2003)
39.3% career three point shooter

Kyle Korver
A marksman of the highest order. Shot 53.6% from three during the 2009-2010 regular season (NBA record)! He also shot 47.8% from three in the playoffs that season!

Cliff Robinson
The guy was ahead of his time. He was a 3+D SF/PF/small-ball Center in the 90s/00s. Shot 37% from three in 4.1 attempts per game during the 1999-2000 season. Got selected 2 times in the NBA All-Defensive Second Team as well (2000, 2002).

A fantastic two-way player, the 6-foot-10 Robinson was one of the best shooting big men the game has ever seen. He was the tallest player to make more than 1,000 three-pointers until he was surpassed by Dirk Nowitzki and Rashard Lewis, making 1,253 threes in his career. Robinson was also an iron man. He rarely missed games due to injury and still holds the Trail Blazers franchise record for consecutive games played with 461.

Robert Horry
3+D Power Forward/Small Forward. One of the greatest clutch performers and winners in NBA history. No wonder his nickname is Big Shot Rob.


One last thing with regards to defense. Luka's main weakness is his defense. The same goes for Korver. Having 6 switchable perimeter defenders in Luka, Klay, Kawhi, Korver, Bowen and Tony Allen would do wonders on the defensive side of the ball. Shortest guy is Tony Allen at 6'4, but he could defend anybody from 1-3. KD is on record saying that Tony Allen was ''by far the greatest defender I ever played against''! Klay is 6'6. All the others are at least 6'7-6'8. Cliff and Horry are a bit taller at 6'9-6'10, but they could switch on SFs. Cliff could even switch on Centers. Can't think of a better way to hide Luka and Korver on D.

PG: Luka Doncic - Russell Westbrook
SG: Klay Thompson - Kyle Korver - Tony Allen
SF: Kawhi Leonard - Bruce Bowen
PF: Cliff Robinson - Zion Williamson - Robert Horry
C: Dikembe Mutombo - Karl Anthony Towns

[Moranis]

Through 12 rounds.  Brooklyn Nets


2020 CS Historical Draft

PG- Andre Miller
SG- Tracy McGrady
SF- Shawn Marion
PF- Anthony Davis
C- Yao Ming

Bench: Allen Iverson, Blake Griffin, Theo Ratliff, David West, Shane Battier, CJ McCollum, Eddie House

Love the team except for AI.   He is not going to be able to "get his" to the level he would accept.   

If somehow you are able to either brainwash him or get him when his money ran out, he would make a great offensive spark off the bench.

Yeah, legit criticism.  I mentioned a few days ago that I saw glimpse of his ability to accept more of a team role when it came to his national team & ASG team play.   That's about all I got in terms of getting him to buy in.

I'm not sure that is a fair criticism.  One of the reasons AI had so many FGA's is he played a ton of minutes.  I mean his career FGA per 36 minutes is 19.1, while Durant is 18.2, Lebron 18.4, Carmelo 19.1, Kobe is 19.4, etc.  Obviously AI was a volume shooter, but I don't think he was really much more of a volume shooter than many of the great scorers in history, what sets him apart from his modern contemporaries is his consistent ability to average over 40 mpg.  His ability to stay on the floor for huge minutes, with such a huge load, and bring it night after night is a toughness the league really hasn't seen since basically Wilt. 

[nickagneta]

Through 12 rounds.  Brooklyn Nets


2020 CS Historical Draft

PG- Andre Miller
SG- Tracy McGrady
SF- Shawn Marion
PF- Anthony Davis
C- Yao Ming

Bench: Allen Iverson, Blake Griffin, Theo Ratliff, David West, Shane Battier, CJ McCollum, Eddie House

Love the team except for AI.   He is not going to be able to "get his" to the level he would accept.   

If somehow you are able to either brainwash him or get him when his money ran out, he would make a great offensive spark off the bench.

Yeah, legit criticism.  I mentioned a few days ago that I saw glimpse of his ability to accept more of a team role when it came to his national team & ASG team play.   That's about all I got in terms of getting him to buy in.

I'm not sure that is a fair criticism.  One of the reasons AI had so many FGA's is he played a ton of minutes.  I mean his career FGA per 36 minutes is 19.1, while Durant is 18.2, Lebron 18.4, Carmelo 19.1, Kobe is 19.4, etc.  Obviously AI was a volume shooter, but I don't think he was really much more of a volume shooter than many of the great scorers in history, what sets him apart from his modern contemporaries is his consistent ability to average over 40 mpg.  His ability to stay on the floor for huge minutes, with such a huge load, and bring it night after night is a toughness the league really hasn't seen since basically Wilt.

It's extremely fair criticism.

The statement was that Iverson wouldn't be able to get his shots due to....and this part is understood....the lack of minutes, role and Iverson's mental makeup.

Not sure what AI's shots per 36 plays into it. It's more a question of getting AI to buy into a role where he doesn't just shoot all the time, especially his bad shots, because he will have more efficient guys on the court with him.