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[action781]

G: Allen Iverson
F: Tracy McGrady
C: Anthony Davis

There is something there with that trio that might work well for AI. Let him and McGrady be the main creators. AD feed off of them. Go small and run, run, run.

Shawn Marion can play the four alongside those three.

Not sure about the guards. CJ McCollum, Andre Miller, Eddie House or a wing in Shane Battier or James Posey.

Yeah I love this.  Marion at the 4.  A elite shooter at SG who can run the break (like Klay) would make this offense pretty dynamite.

Could Iverson be swapped into the 2017 Celtics offense and efficiently run the actions that IT used to run with Horford?

[Donoghus]

G: Allen Iverson
F: Tracy McGrady
C: Anthony Davis

There is something there with that trio that might work well for AI. Let him and McGrady be the main creators. AD feed off of them. Go small and run, run, run.

Shawn Marion can play the four alongside those three.

Not sure about the guards. CJ McCollum, Andre Miller, Eddie House or a wing in Shane Battier or James Posey.

Yeah I love this.  Marion at the 4.  A elite shooter at SG who can run the break (like Klay) would make this offense pretty dynamite.

Could Iverson be swapped into the 2017 Celtics offense and efficiently run the actions that IT used to run with Horford?

Yeah, I'm still trying to figure out my ideal starting lineup.   

This would be a fun one. 

G: Iverson
G: McCollum
F: McGrady
F: Marion
C: Davis

[Somebody]

G: Allen Iverson
F: Tracy McGrady
C: Anthony Davis

There is something there with that trio that might work well for AI. Let him and McGrady be the main creators. AD feed off of them. Go small and run, run, run.

Shawn Marion can play the four alongside those three.

Not sure about the guards. CJ McCollum, Andre Miller, Eddie House or a wing in Shane Battier or James Posey.

Can AI and McGrady coexist? Both were just so ball dominant during their peaks. Obviously you could have AI run off ball (McGrady is a way better offensive engine), but his passing value plummets in that off ball role. Love the fit with AD though, that finishing, shooting and extra passing make him so desirable next to a ball dominant guard like AI.

If AD stays as an off ball threat and facilitator more than a go-to scorer with a lethal isolation game, it could work. If he doesn't, there will be some issues but might be manageable.

A fair bit depends on the two players though. I would be worried about adding Blake Griffin into the lineup. Definitely too many hands to feed at that point.

To be fair I was already assuming that AD would become a pure floor spacer/finisher/extra passer/screen setter. I'm just skeptical that a backcourt of AI and McGrady can fit well, I simply don't see AI providing massive value in a role where he's a clear number two (in Denver he was the 1-B to Melo's 1-A, I don't see that happening with McGrady as the offensive engine). To me it'd just devolve into a situation where you either utilise AI at the cost of degrading a McGrady led attack (which hurts the team), or play AI as the second option on offence (which really doesn't add a ton of value, if at all considering his defensive issues). I think AI needs a really specific cast around him to have him give you real value.

[nickagneta]

Round 14 is now closed.

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[Who]

BOSTON - Who
Kevin Durant (2016-17)
Steve Nash (2006-07)
Pau Gasol (2009-10)
Marc Gasol (2012-13)
Rasheed Wallace (2002-03)
Danny Granger (2008-09)
Allan Houston (1999-2000)
John Stockton (1999-2000)
Nene Hilario (2010-11)
Richard Jefferson (2005-06)
Goran Dragic (2013-14)
Jason Richardson (2007-08)
Jaren Jackson Jr. (2019-20)
Latrell Sprewell (1999-2000)

[action781]

Interested to hear feedback on the Utah Jazz

Here are my thoughts on approximate minute distributions.  It's of course not rigid.  Trae could get some more situational use.  Tristan Thompson (not listed) will be used situationally.  Peja or Mashburn could play some 4 at times alongside Shaq when teams go small (eating into Tucker's minutes).

PG:  Kidd (30) / Rondo (14) / Trae Young (4)
SG:  Reggie Miller (26) / Jaylen (12) / Smart (10)
SF:  Peja (26) / Mashburn (12) / Jaylen (10)
PF:  Horford (24) / Boozer (12) / PJ Tucker (12)
C:  Shaq (36) / Horford (6) / Okur (6)

I decided Carlos Boozer will exclusively be used when Shaq is on the bench.  He'll be paired with Horford or Okur as a floor-spreading center and I think he'll be a very nice pick & roll partner with Trae Young or Kidd during those stretches.

[Jvalin]

Interested to hear feedback on the Utah Jazz

Here are my thoughts on approximate minute distributions.  It's of course not rigid.  Trae could get some more situational use.  Tristan Thompson (not listed) will be used situationally.  Peja or Mashburn could play some 4 at times alongside Shaq when teams go small (eating into Tucker's minutes).

PG:  Kidd (30) / Rondo (14) / Trae Young (4)
SG:  Reggie Miller (26) / Jaylen (12) / Smart (10)
SF:  Peja (26) / Mashburn (12) / Jaylen (10)
PF:  Horford (24) / Boozer (12) / PJ Tucker (12)
C:  Shaq (36) / Horford (6) / Okur (6)

I decided Carlos Boozer will exclusively be used when Shaq is on the bench.  He'll be paired with Horford or Okur as a floor-spreading center and I think he'll be a very nice pick & roll partner with Trae Young or Kidd during those stretches.

No need to use a 13-man rotation in the playoffs. If I were you, I'd be using my best players as much as possible.

Check out the numbers from the 2000 NBA Finals. Shaq was playing 45.6 minutes per game! Reggie was playing 42 minutes per game (at the age of 35).

https://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2000-nba-finals-pacers-vs-lakers.html

Anyway, in the first rounds I'd go with something like this:

PG:  Kidd (36) / Rondo (12)
SG:  Reggie Miller (36) / Jaylen (12)
SF:  Peja (36) / Mashburn (12)
PF:  Horford (24) / Boozer (12) / PJ Tucker (12) <-- only because you don't wanna play Shaq and Boozer together
C:  Shaq (36) / Horford (12)

(in close games Shaq would be playing north of 40 minutes)

That would be a 10-man rotation.

[RPGenerate]

So Kyrie Irving is on the trading block, as of now. If anyone is interesting a great, clutch scorer for your team, pm me.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Oklahoma City after the draft.

PG: Jrue Holiday ('17-'18)/ Isaiah Thomas ('16-'17)
SG: Paul George ('18-'19) / Aaron McKie ('00-'01)
SF: Paul Pierce ('07-'08) / Tayshaun Prince ('04-'05)
PF: LaMarcus Aldridge ('15-'16) / Shareef Abdur-Raheem ('02-'03)
C : Jemaine O'neal ('03-'04) / Ben Wallace ('03-'04)

Deep bench: Bradley Beal ('19-'20), Ben Simmons ('19-'20), Larry Hughes ('04-'05), Brian Scalabrine ('08-'09)

10 man rotation. Jermaine O'Neal will be starting over Ben Wallace. The added offense he provides is vital for our balanced scoring attack. We think we have a good to great defensive squad. If need be, we have Isaiah Thomas and Shareef Abdur-Rahim as our extra scoring punch from the bench. Both our reserve wings are good to elite defenders, with one of them being a former 6th Man of the Year winner. And to top it off, we have one of the best interior defender and rebounder backing up JO in Big Ben Wallace.

If need be, we can go deep with our needs. If we need more defense from our guard, 1st Team All-NBA Defense Larry Hughes could provide. Scoring? There's Bradley Beal. Extra playmaker, we have Ben Simmons, who happens to be leading the league in steals this season. To just fully shut it down and call it a night, well, you know who we'd call for that.

We like where we are. Here's hoping the voters like us too.

[Donoghus]

Oklahoma City after the draft.

PG: Jrue Holiday ('17-'18)/ Isaiah Thomas ('16-'17)
SG: Paul George ('18-'19) / Aaron McKie ('00-'01)
SF: Paul Pierce ('07-'08) / Tayshaun Prince ('04-'05)
PF: LaMarcus Aldridge ('15-'16) / Shareef Abdur-Raheem ('02-'03)
C : Jemaine O'neal ('03-'04) / Ben Wallace ('03-'04)

Deep bench: Bradley Beal ('19-'20), Ben Simmons ('19-'20), Larry Hughes ('04-'05), Brian Scalabrine ('08-'09)

10 man rotation. Jermaine O'Neal will be starting over Ben Wallace. The added offense he provides is vital for our balanced scoring attack. We think we have a good to great defensive squad. If need be, we have Isaiah Thomas and Shareef Abdur-Rahim as our extra scoring punch from the bench. Both our reserve wings are good to elite defenders, with one of them being a former 6th Man of the Year winner. And to top it off, we have one of the best interior defender and rebounder backing up JO in Big Ben Wallace.

If need be, we can go deep with our needs. If we need more defense from our guard, 1st Team All-NBA Defense Larry Hughes could provide. Scoring? There's Bradley Beal. Extra playmaker, we have Ben Simmons, who happens to be leading the league in steals this season. To just fully shut it down and call it a night, well, you know who we'd call for that.

We like where we are. Here's hoping the voters like us too.

I think you're making a mistake burying Bradley Beal as "deep bench"

[Jvalin]

Everyone is available for the right price, excluding Kawhi + Klay.

Let the trade season begin!


PG: Luka Doncic - Russell Westbrook - Shai Gilgeous Alexander
SG: Klay Thompson - Kyle Korver - Tony Allen
SF: Kawhi Leonard - Bruce Bowen
PF: Cliff Robinson - Zion Williamson - Robert Horry
C: Dikembe Mutombo - Karl Anthony Towns - Myles Turner

[DefenseWinsChamps]

Oklahoma City after the draft.

PG: Jrue Holiday ('17-'18)/ Isaiah Thomas ('16-'17)
SG: Paul George ('18-'19) / Aaron McKie ('00-'01)
SF: Paul Pierce ('07-'08) / Tayshaun Prince ('04-'05)
PF: LaMarcus Aldridge ('15-'16) / Shareef Abdur-Raheem ('02-'03)
C : Jemaine O'neal ('03-'04) / Ben Wallace ('03-'04)

Deep bench: Bradley Beal ('19-'20), Ben Simmons ('19-'20), Larry Hughes ('04-'05), Brian Scalabrine ('08-'09)

10 man rotation. Jermaine O'Neal will be starting over Ben Wallace. The added offense he provides is vital for our balanced scoring attack. We think we have a good to great defensive squad. If need be, we have Isaiah Thomas and Shareef Abdur-Rahim as our extra scoring punch from the bench. Both our reserve wings are good to elite defenders, with one of them being a former 6th Man of the Year winner. And to top it off, we have one of the best interior defender and rebounder backing up JO in Big Ben Wallace.

If need be, we can go deep with our needs. If we need more defense from our guard, 1st Team All-NBA Defense Larry Hughes could provide. Scoring? There's Bradley Beal. Extra playmaker, we have Ben Simmons, who happens to be leading the league in steals this season. To just fully shut it down and call it a night, well, you know who we'd call for that.

We like where we are. Here's hoping the voters like us too.

I think you're making a mistake burying Bradley Beal as "deep bench"

I agree.

I also think Simmons should be in the rotation instead of Shareef.

[nickagneta]

Oklahoma City after the draft.

PG: Jrue Holiday ('17-'18)/ Isaiah Thomas ('16-'17)
SG: Paul George ('18-'19) / Aaron McKie ('00-'01)
SF: Paul Pierce ('07-'08) / Tayshaun Prince ('04-'05)
PF: LaMarcus Aldridge ('15-'16) / Shareef Abdur-Raheem ('02-'03)
C : Jemaine O'neal ('03-'04) / Ben Wallace ('03-'04)

Deep bench: Bradley Beal ('19-'20), Ben Simmons ('19-'20), Larry Hughes ('04-'05), Brian Scalabrine ('08-'09)

10 man rotation. Jermaine O'Neal will be starting over Ben Wallace. The added offense he provides is vital for our balanced scoring attack. We think we have a good to great defensive squad. If need be, we have Isaiah Thomas and Shareef Abdur-Rahim as our extra scoring punch from the bench. Both our reserve wings are good to elite defenders, with one of them being a former 6th Man of the Year winner. And to top it off, we have one of the best interior defender and rebounder backing up JO in Big Ben Wallace.

If need be, we can go deep with our needs. If we need more defense from our guard, 1st Team All-NBA Defense Larry Hughes could provide. Scoring? There's Bradley Beal. Extra playmaker, we have Ben Simmons, who happens to be leading the league in steals this season. To just fully shut it down and call it a night, well, you know who we'd call for that.

We like where we are. Here's hoping the voters like us too.

I think you're making a mistake burying Bradley Beal as "deep bench"

Yeah, doing means you made a massive mistake taking him in the 6th round.

And now that you value him as a deep bench player and made that known, if you try to trade him you will get no value back.

You might be "stuck" with him.

 On that team, Beal would be my 3rd guard/6th man getting 30 minutes while IT would be a 10-15 minute offensive sparkplug. McKie should be your deep bench guard stopper you might use in games you are losing because the opposition's guard is going off.

I would also start Wallace and split time between him and Jermaine O'Neal down the middle.

[Donoghus]

Oklahoma City after the draft.

PG: Jrue Holiday ('17-'18)/ Isaiah Thomas ('16-'17)
SG: Paul George ('18-'19) / Aaron McKie ('00-'01)
SF: Paul Pierce ('07-'08) / Tayshaun Prince ('04-'05)
PF: LaMarcus Aldridge ('15-'16) / Shareef Abdur-Raheem ('02-'03)
C : Jemaine O'neal ('03-'04) / Ben Wallace ('03-'04)

Deep bench: Bradley Beal ('19-'20), Ben Simmons ('19-'20), Larry Hughes ('04-'05), Brian Scalabrine ('08-'09)

10 man rotation. Jermaine O'Neal will be starting over Ben Wallace. The added offense he provides is vital for our balanced scoring attack. We think we have a good to great defensive squad. If need be, we have Isaiah Thomas and Shareef Abdur-Rahim as our extra scoring punch from the bench. Both our reserve wings are good to elite defenders, with one of them being a former 6th Man of the Year winner. And to top it off, we have one of the best interior defender and rebounder backing up JO in Big Ben Wallace.

If need be, we can go deep with our needs. If we need more defense from our guard, 1st Team All-NBA Defense Larry Hughes could provide. Scoring? There's Bradley Beal. Extra playmaker, we have Ben Simmons, who happens to be leading the league in steals this season. To just fully shut it down and call it a night, well, you know who we'd call for that.

We like where we are. Here's hoping the voters like us too.

I think you're making a mistake burying Bradley Beal as "deep bench"

Yeah, doing means you made a massive mistake taking him in the 6th round.

And now that you value him as a deep bench player and made that known, if you try to trade him you will get no value back.

You might be "stuck" with him.

 On that team, Beal would be my 3rd guard/6th man getting 30 minutes while IT would be a 10-15 minute offensive sparkplug. McKie should be your deep bench guard stopper you might use in games you are losing because the opposition's guard is going off.

I would also start Wallace and split time between him and Jermaine O'Neal down the middle.

I also see Beal as being a sixth man/sparkplug off the bench.

[action781]

Interested to hear feedback on the Utah Jazz

Here are my thoughts on approximate minute distributions.  It's of course not rigid.  Trae could get some more situational use.  Tristan Thompson (not listed) will be used situationally.  Peja or Mashburn could play some 4 at times alongside Shaq when teams go small (eating into Tucker's minutes).

PG:  Kidd (30) / Rondo (14) / Trae Young (4)
SG:  Reggie Miller (26) / Jaylen (12) / Smart (10)
SF:  Peja (26) / Mashburn (12) / Jaylen (10)
PF:  Horford (24) / Boozer (12) / PJ Tucker (12)
C:  Shaq (36) / Horford (6) / Okur (6)

I decided Carlos Boozer will exclusively be used when Shaq is on the bench.  He'll be paired with Horford or Okur as a floor-spreading center and I think he'll be a very nice pick & roll partner with Trae Young or Kidd during those stretches.

No need to use a 13-man rotation in the playoffs. If I were you, I'd be using my best players as much as possible.

Check out the numbers from the 2000 NBA Finals. Shaq was playing 45.6 minutes per game! Reggie was playing 42 minutes per game (at the age of 35).

https://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2000-nba-finals-pacers-vs-lakers.html

Anyway, in the first rounds I'd go with something like this:

PG:  Kidd (36) / Rondo (12)
SG:  Reggie Miller (36) / Jaylen (12)
SF:  Peja (36) / Mashburn (12)
PF:  Horford (24) / Boozer (12) / PJ Tucker (12) <-- only because you don't wanna play Shaq and Boozer together
C:  Shaq (36) / Horford (12)

(in close games Shaq would be playing north of 40 minutes)

That would be a 10-man rotation.

Yeah those projections I gave would be regular season and meant to portray more of a season average.  They'd certainly tighten up to a 9-10 man rotation in postseason and also change a bit depending on opponent.  Thanks for the feedback, TP.

But also a reason I think why a team's stars play such big minutes in NBA postseasons is because there is such a drastic difference in talent between a team's #1 player and their #10 player.  A tired Shaq in his 42nd minute is still a wayyyy better player than a fully rested Travis Knight.  With no Travis Knights in this game, it's reasonable to not rely SO heavily on your star players for absurd #s of minutes.  Star players probably don't need to play more than 38 minutes.  An example of this is the Gold Medal Olympic game in 2012.  The highest stakes and a very close game.  The three highest minutes played were Durant 38, CP3 33, Lebron 30.