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Re: Rockets (38-20) at Celtics (41-17) Game #59 2/29.20
« Reply #705 on: February 29, 2020, 11:29:12 PM »

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Brown was just flatout soft today. Can't even count the amount of times he got punked by PJ Tucker and Daniel House. Did Hayward and Theis play tonight? Because I sure as heck couldn't tell.
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Re: Rockets (38-20) at Celtics (41-17) Game #59 2/29.20
« Reply #706 on: February 29, 2020, 11:29:29 PM »

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Absolutely infuriating. When does Brad get held accountable for these God-awful end-game decisions? How many games has he given up due to this putrid philosophy of refusing to call a timeout in these situations??

I'm guessing he doesn't, because it's about one millionth of the issue that you make it out to be. Emphasised by the fact you then assume we will automatically win when he takes the time outs that you want. False logic, and almost a total non issue.

Sure bud. Keep the blinders on.

Nobody said it guarantees you a win, but it gives you a much higher percentage of a better look. Are you happy with a 9-23 Brown shooting a fade-away pull-up midrange jumper for the win? Yeah, didn't think so. Literally no argument could be made for not calling that timeout tonight with how our offense has been tonight, especially with no Kemba and a lackluster iso Tatum. Zero argument.

Re: Rockets (38-20) at Celtics (41-17) Game #59 2/29.20
« Reply #707 on: February 29, 2020, 11:29:32 PM »

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Hayward is better than he thinks he is.  He needs to understand that
Yeah, I think this is the most valid criticism of him. I feel as if he doesn't think he's as good as JB and JT on offence, but he is
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Re: Rockets (38-20) at Celtics (41-17) Game #59 2/29.20
« Reply #708 on: February 29, 2020, 11:30:14 PM »

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On the bright side, we have two days off, and then two games against BKN, then @CLE.

Should in theory be two easy wins to hopefully get us back on track

I also hope Kemba returns
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Re: Rockets (38-20) at Celtics (41-17) Game #59 2/29.20
« Reply #709 on: February 29, 2020, 11:30:17 PM »

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Hayward really struggles with these clutch late game shots.

I know he's efficient when the game doesn't matter, but he's killjoy in close games. Point blank layups, wide open 3's - you name it, he misses it.
You know how easy it is to refute this, right? He, Kemba and Marcus all shoot within 1.8% of each other in terms of FG% (Kemba as the best, Smart as the worst), and Hayward is our best clutch 3 point shooter, closely followed by Tatum and Kemba. So basically, he's no worse than Kemba (just a much smaller volume), and he's massively more efficient than Smart in the clutch when you consider 3P% and FT%

https://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=GP&dir=-1&Season=2019-20&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&TeamID=1610612738

Yay. I suddenly feel better about that missed layup against the Lakers and the missed three tonight and also the brick house he tried to build in Utah (that we fortunately survived).

Seriously, my bad. I keep forgetting we're not supposed to criticize him.
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Re: Rockets (38-20) at Celtics (41-17) Game #59 2/29.20
« Reply #710 on: February 29, 2020, 11:30:34 PM »

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Brown was just flatout soft today. Can't even count the amount of times he got punked by PJ Tucker and Daniel House. Did Hayward and Theis play tonight? Because I sure as heck couldn't tell.
Brown gave up that monster put-back by House, blegh.

Hard to blame him for giving up that Russ one, but I'm so mad I'm tempted
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Re: Rockets (38-20) at Celtics (41-17) Game #59 2/29.20
« Reply #711 on: February 29, 2020, 11:30:47 PM »

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This loss is on all of our players on the floor who couldn't manage to box out the midgets that the Rockets put out there down the stretch. Offensive rebounds flat out killed us.

Re: Rockets (38-20) at Celtics (41-17) Game #59 2/29.20
« Reply #712 on: February 29, 2020, 11:31:19 PM »

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Hayward really struggles with these clutch late game shots.

I know he's efficient when the game doesn't matter, but he's killjoy in close games. Point blank layups, wide open 3's - you name it, he misses it.
You know how easy it is to refute this, right? He, Kemba and Marcus all shoot within 1.8% of each other in terms of FG% (Kemba as the best, Smart as the worst), and Hayward is our best clutch 3 point shooter, closely followed by Tatum and Kemba. So basically, he's no worse than Kemba (just a much smaller volume), and he's massively more efficient than Smart in the clutch when you consider 3P% and FT%

https://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=GP&dir=-1&Season=2019-20&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&TeamID=1610612738

Yay. I suddenly feel better about that missed layup against the Lakers and the missed three tonight and also the brick house he tried to build in Utah (that we fortunately survived).

Seriously, my bad. I keep forgetting we're not supposed to criticize him.
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Re: Rockets (38-20) at Celtics (41-17) Game #59 2/29.20
« Reply #713 on: February 29, 2020, 11:31:45 PM »

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Hayward really struggles with these clutch late game shots.

I know he's efficient when the game doesn't matter, but he's killjoy in close games. Point blank layups, wide open 3's - you name it, he misses it.
You know how easy it is to refute this, right? He, Kemba and Marcus all shoot within 1.8% of each other in terms of FG% (Kemba as the best, Smart as the worst), and Hayward is our best clutch 3 point shooter, closely followed by Tatum and Kemba. So basically, he's no worse than Kemba (just a much smaller volume), and he's massively more efficient than Smart in the clutch when you consider 3P% and FT%

https://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=GP&dir=-1&Season=2019-20&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&TeamID=1610612738

Yay. I suddenly feel better about that missed layup against the Lakers and the missed three tonight and also the brick house he tried to build in Utah (that we fortunately survived).

Seriously, my bad. I keep forgetting we're not supposed to criticize him.
Rofl. If you want to ignore stats and continue criticising one guy for something numerous guys are guilty of, go ahead. It's hilarious. You say that as if he doesn't cop it incessantly. But he's your whipping boy, so go off ::)
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Re: Rockets (38-20) at Celtics (41-17) Game #59 2/29.20
« Reply #714 on: February 29, 2020, 11:31:54 PM »

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We need Kemba for games just like this!

yup .....if he is healthy ....he can counter alot of their crappy garbage basketball .   IF he can ever get healthy ....injections is not good news . 

Re: Rockets (38-20) at Celtics (41-17) Game #59 2/29.20
« Reply #715 on: February 29, 2020, 11:32:33 PM »

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I will reiterate the perplexing nature of not calling a timeout on that last play. It's not like the Cs were on a fastbreak; Tatum walked the ball up the floor as slowly as one could and HOU was totally set in their defense. Once it became obvious that whatever Brad was yelling out wasn't going to work, he should have immediately called the timeout. It's not like he could have saved it for later.

But it doesn't all come down to that - the 2nd half was just pure torture. It'll be nice to have Kemba back, but don't like seeing how this team just collapses with any type of adversity. Even the Brown 3 at the end of regulation came after Tatum blew his first FT (I realize he missed the 2nd on purpose).

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« Reply #716 on: February 29, 2020, 11:33:16 PM »

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I will reiterate the perplexing nature of not calling a timeout on that last play. It's not like the Cs were on a fastbreak; Tatum walked the ball up the floor as slowly as one could and HOU was totally set in their defense. Once it became obvious that whatever Brad was yelling out wasn't going to work, he should have immediately called the timeout. It's not like he could have saved it for later.

But it doesn't all come down to that - the 2nd half was just pure torture. It'll be nice to have Kemba back, but don't like seeing how this team just collapses with any type of adversity. Even the Brown 3 at the end of regulation came after Tatum blew his first FT (I realize he missed the 2nd on purpose).
Yeah, that was pretty bloody mystifying.
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Re: Rockets (38-20) at Celtics (41-17) Game #59 2/29.20
« Reply #717 on: February 29, 2020, 11:33:32 PM »

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Absolutely infuriating. When does Brad get held accountable for these God-awful end-game decisions? How many games has he given up due to this putrid philosophy of refusing to call a timeout in these situations??

I'm guessing he doesn't, because it's about one millionth of the issue that you make it out to be. Emphasised by the fact you then assume we will automatically win when he takes the time outs that you want. False logic, and almost a total non issue.

Sure bud. Keep the blinders on.

Nobody said it guarantees you a win, but it gives you a much higher percentage of a better look. Are you happy with a 9-23 Brown shooting a fade-away pull-up midrange jumper for the win? Yeah, didn't think so. Literally no argument could be made for not calling that timeout tonight with how our offense has been tonight, especially with no Kemba and a lackluster iso Tatum. Zero argument.

And wait a minute - "it's about one millionth of the issue that you make it out to be"? This exact thing happened literally less than a week ago in the Lakers game, where Brad screwed us over in the final possession by yet again not calling a timeout. We didn't even get a shot off in that instance. But, yeah, "one millionth of the issue" that I make it out to be.  ::)

Perhaps you should take the Brad goggles off, buddy.

Re: Rockets (38-20) at Celtics (41-17) Game #59 2/29.20
« Reply #718 on: February 29, 2020, 11:33:33 PM »

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Stop blaming the refs.

We got big boyed in the second half.  The Rockets played more physical and more aggressive, and we backed down.  We played soft on our drives to the basket, and we gave Westbrook every layup he wanted. 

I can live with cold shooting.  That happens to everybody.  But physically we must bring the fight if we want to win against that team.  It's imperative, and we didn't do it.

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« Reply #719 on: February 29, 2020, 11:33:52 PM »

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Brown was just flatout soft today. Can't even count the amount of times he got punked by PJ Tucker and Daniel House. Did Hayward and Theis play tonight? Because I sure as heck couldn't tell.
Brown gave up that monster put-back by House, blegh.

Hard to blame him for giving up that Russ one, but I'm so mad I'm tempted
I'm fumimg so hard right now, so I'm gonna blame him lol. Don't forget just getting manhandled by PJ Tucker on a critical offensive board.
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