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Re: How do you like the Return on the KG/PP to nets trade now?
« Reply #30 on: February 10, 2020, 09:11:20 PM »

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i love it, although i wish we had shai gilgeous as well, and we easily could/would have. 

not taking anything away from Ainge, he did what most would do at the time, worth the risk.
Want to explain exactly how Ainge was supposed to land SGA and how was he doing it with assets from the original Nets trade which would make bringing it up here pertinent?
With the Nets pick that was traded for Irving.  Sexton was 8th, SGA was 11th in the same draft.
If ainge keeps IT, does He really draft SGA? And why SGa if every other GM would have picked sexton? Seems like hindsight picking
I think he would have tried to trade up, but if he kept the pick, I think he would have taken Bridges.  Sexton was taken by the Cavs, but he was far from a unanimous type pick at that point.  I do think Ainge would have been more likely to take SGA than Sexton, especially with IT on the roster.  Sexton is basically IT, while SGA has a different skill set.  Bridges is a Langford type player, but with experience.  He just strikes me like an Ainge type of pick.  If I was drafting and couldn't trade up, I would have taken Porter as I believed he had the most upside potential even with the back injury.  Risky pick, but in that spot with the team the C's had, Porter seemed like the right risk to make.
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Re: How do you like the Return on the KG/PP to nets trade now?
« Reply #31 on: February 10, 2020, 10:11:58 PM »

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Agree, Danny waited almost tomthe last second  to dump them, it was obvious neither had alot left in the tank.

Looking back, Ainge should have moved on from the Big Three era following our Game 5 loss to the Heat in the 2011 playoffs.

Thank God for Billy King, though, which makes my timeline completely irrelevant.

Re: How do you like the Return on the KG/PP to nets trade now?
« Reply #32 on: February 10, 2020, 10:18:07 PM »

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Agree, Danny waited almost tomthe last second  to dump them, it was obvious neither had alot left in the tank.

Looking back, Ainge should have moved on from the Big Three era following our Game 5 loss to the Heat in the 2011 playoffs.

Thank God for Billy King, though, which makes my timeline completely irrelevant.

That lockout season favored the Celtics one more year. But the Celtics benefitted from a Derrick Rose injury, affecting the Chicago Bulls entering the playoffs, falling to the #8 seeded 76ers. Otherwise, the Rose-led Bulls would have crushed the Celtics.

If only the Celtics could have stopped LeBron James in Game 6...ugh. 2017-2018 LeBron vs Celtics playoff matchup reminded me of that.


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Re: How do you like the Return on the KG/PP to nets trade now?
« Reply #33 on: February 10, 2020, 10:46:41 PM »

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Agree, Danny waited almost tomthe last second  to dump them, it was obvious neither had alot left in the tank.

Looking back, Ainge should have moved on from the Big Three era following our Game 5 loss to the Heat in the 2011 playoffs.

Thank God for Billy King, though, which makes my timeline completely irrelevant.

The funny thing with Billy, though, is that that trade allowed BKN to go further than they've gone so far in the playoffs, in recent memory.

They made it to the 2nd round and lost to MIA in 2012-13, I believe.

PP34 and KG had memorable times in BKN, IIRC..with PP hitting clutch shots AND KG taking over for Brooke Lopez when he got hurt.

Here is PP breaking TOR's hearts in Game 7:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIF2qDzFxco

And as much as BKN's fans have railed against that trade BKN has YET to sniff the 2nd round of the playoffs, since.

Re: How do you like the Return on the KG/PP to nets trade now?
« Reply #34 on: February 10, 2020, 11:22:48 PM »

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Agree, Danny waited almost tomthe last second  to dump them, it was obvious neither had alot left in the tank.

Looking back, Ainge should have moved on from the Big Three era following our Game 5 loss to the Heat in the 2011 playoffs.

Thank God for Billy King, though, which makes my timeline completely irrelevant.

The funny thing with Billy, though, is that that trade allowed BKN to go further than they've gone so far in the playoffs, in recent memory.

They made it to the 2nd round and lost to MIA in 2012-13, I believe.

PP34 and KG had memorable times in BKN, IIRC..with PP hitting clutch shots AND KG taking over for Brooke Lopez when he got hurt.

Here is PP breaking TOR's hearts in Game 7:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIF2qDzFxco

And as much as BKN's fans have railed against that trade BKN has YET to sniff the 2nd round of the playoffs, since.
Funny thing about that Nets team falling apart....it had almost everything to do with Deron Williams and Brooke Lopez never becoming superstars and also falling apart physically and almost nothing to do with how Paul and KG played while with the Nets.

Re: How do you like the Return on the KG/PP to nets trade now?
« Reply #35 on: February 10, 2020, 11:32:59 PM »

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Agree, Danny waited almost tomthe last second  to dump them, it was obvious neither had alot left in the tank.

Looking back, Ainge should have moved on from the Big Three era following our Game 5 loss to the Heat in the 2011 playoffs.

Thank God for Billy King, though, which makes my timeline completely irrelevant.

The funny thing with Billy, though, is that that trade allowed BKN to go further than they've gone so far in the playoffs, in recent memory.

They made it to the 2nd round and lost to MIA in 2012-13, I believe.

PP34 and KG had memorable times in BKN, IIRC..with PP hitting clutch shots AND KG taking over for Brooke Lopez when he got hurt.

Here is PP breaking TOR's hearts in Game 7:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIF2qDzFxco

And as much as BKN's fans have railed against that trade BKN has YET to sniff the 2nd round of the playoffs, since.

I was really pulling for PP34 and KG to mop the floor with the Miami Big 3 in 2013-2014. Paul Pierce was a true Toronto Raptor stopper. Even in his Wizards stint, him and his squad swept them. Too bad I wanted that Wizards team to beat the Hawks too, hated them and their overrated team. Imagine that 3-point buzzer-beater counted? Man...PP34 is a bad man.


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Re: How do you like the Return on the KG/PP to nets trade now?
« Reply #36 on: February 11, 2020, 01:19:02 AM »

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Agree, Danny waited almost tomthe last second  to dump them, it was obvious neither had alot left in the tank.

Looking back, Ainge should have moved on from the Big Three era following our Game 5 loss to the Heat in the 2011 playoffs.

Thank God for Billy King, though, which makes my timeline completely irrelevant.

That lockout season favored the Celtics one more year. But the Celtics benefitted from a Derrick Rose injury, affecting the Chicago Bulls entering the playoffs, falling to the #8 seeded 76ers. Otherwise, the Rose-led Bulls would have crushed the Celtics.

If only the Celtics could have stopped LeBron James in Game 6...ugh. 2017-2018 LeBron vs Celtics playoff matchup reminded me of that.

That Bulls team never really did anything though. In fact within a couple years of that series all their good players were washed up. Remember the great lol deng?

It's pretty conspicuous actually.  Maybe they should have trained with lebron more.

Re: How do you like the Return on the KG/PP to nets trade now?
« Reply #37 on: February 11, 2020, 07:46:12 PM »

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I was really pulling for PP34 and KG to mop the floor with the Miami Big 3 in 2013-2014.

Me too. I was really excited for that series and wanted to see KG/Pierce finally get some revenge against Ray Allen.

Re: How do you like the Return on the KG/PP to nets trade now?
« Reply #38 on: February 11, 2020, 07:52:35 PM »

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That lockout season favored the Celtics one more year. But the Celtics benefitted from a Derrick Rose injury, affecting the Chicago Bulls entering the playoffs, falling to the #8 seeded 76ers. Otherwise, the Rose-led Bulls would have crushed the Celtics.

I've always wondered how much different things would have been had Ainge dealt KG and Pierce a couple years sooner. Would we have "retooled" with Doc and built around Rondo/Green?

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« Reply #39 on: February 11, 2020, 10:15:56 PM »

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Re: How do you like the Return on the KG/PP to nets trade now?
« Reply #40 on: February 11, 2020, 10:32:23 PM »

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That lockout season favored the Celtics one more year. But the Celtics benefitted from a Derrick Rose injury, affecting the Chicago Bulls entering the playoffs, falling to the #8 seeded 76ers. Otherwise, the Rose-led Bulls would have crushed the Celtics.

I've always wondered how much different things would have been had Ainge dealt KG and Pierce a couple years sooner. Would we have "retooled" with Doc and built around Rondo/Green?

I think the real "What if" question is, "What if Rondo had not gotten hurt?".   His injury and the fact that he was clearly going to miss most of the next season was the big trigger for why Danny, Doc, KG & PP _ALL_ agreed to break up the band.
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Re: How do you like the Return on the KG/PP to nets trade now?
« Reply #41 on: February 11, 2020, 10:48:59 PM »

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That lockout season favored the Celtics one more year. But the Celtics benefitted from a Derrick Rose injury, affecting the Chicago Bulls entering the playoffs, falling to the #8 seeded 76ers. Otherwise, the Rose-led Bulls would have crushed the Celtics.

I've always wondered how much different things would have been had Ainge dealt KG and Pierce a couple years sooner. Would we have "retooled" with Doc and built around Rondo/Green?
the original rebuild trade plan was to trade KG and Doc to the clippers in a package for deandre Jordan. The league vetoed this deal because of doc being included. Lol the league later let ainge “trade” doc for a 1st round pick. Danny was adamant in getting a return for doc

Even after all these years it’s so crazy to me that ainge traded a coach for a pick

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« Reply #42 on: February 12, 2020, 12:07:51 AM »

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oops wrong thread

Re: How do you like the Return on the KG/PP to nets trade now?
« Reply #43 on: February 12, 2020, 06:20:07 AM »

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It was the right move at the time, their window was closing, that being said it hurt as a fan because I loved those guys.

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« Reply #44 on: February 12, 2020, 02:13:09 PM »

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I liked it then; was the right thing to do.

LOVE it now. Hard to imagine it working out any better.  It has established our future core for many years to come.