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Re: How do you like the Return on the KG/PP to nets trade now?
« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2020, 05:09:59 PM »

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I think Danny did the absolute best he could, given the circumstances...

He held onto the Big Three of KG-PP-Rondo as long as he could..then when the right opportunity presented itself he pounced.

And what a MAGICAL run we had in 2011-12...WOW.

Hated to see them go but PURELY from a NOSTALGIC standpoint. It was clear that MIA was just about unbeatable - even though we ALMOST pulled off the impossible in 2011-12.







We did well....not quite "Auerbachian" but if Red was alive today I think he'd be smiling and having a cigar with Danny.



Agree, Danny waited almost tomthe last second  to dump them, it was obvious neither had alot left in the tank. 

He set up the team for a better than average chance at a quality rebuild .  The assets were obtained .....kinda up to some luck if any of the moves or picks planned out.

I think dumping Rondo was positive healthy thing , protecting CBS from the worst rif raft players ,  and getting IT as important

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IT was THE big boost that helped quickly restore the Celtics to a respectable level watchable team ....while others floundered for years waiting on that Simmons and Embiid to emerge out of thin air.

Re: How do you like the Return on the KG/PP to nets trade now?
« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2020, 05:14:41 PM »

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i love it, although i wish we had shai gilgeous as well, and we easily could/would have. 

not taking anything away from Ainge, he did what most would do at the time, worth the risk.
Want to explain exactly how Ainge was supposed to land SGA and how was he doing it with assets from the original Nets trade which would make bringing it up here pertinent?
With the Nets pick that was traded for Irving.  Sexton was 8th, SGA was 11th in the same draft.
If ainge keeps IT, does He really draft SGA? And why SGa if every other GM would have picked sexton? Seems like hindsight picking

Re: How do you like the Return on the KG/PP to nets trade now?
« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2020, 05:19:48 PM »

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Obviously love(d) KG and Pierce, but the trade was incredible! Tatum is a future Hall of Famer, Brown will be a perennial All-Star, Romeo looks like he can play, and we made a trade for an All-NBA PG at the exact time ours was dropping off a cliff (IT was incredible for Boston, btw).

The Hayward injury demolished our chances at a championship, but Danny put all the pieces together for it to happen. Unfortunately, other injuries and attitudes got in the way and last year didn't go as planned, but now we have Kemba and we have a very promising future. Getting JT and JB is a humongous part of that.

If anybody isn't ecstatic with the way things ended up, then they are crazy.

Re: How do you like the Return on the KG/PP to nets trade now?
« Reply #18 on: February 10, 2020, 05:21:14 PM »

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i love it, although i wish we had shai gilgeous as well, and we easily could/would have. 

not taking anything away from Ainge, he did what most would do at the time, worth the risk.
Want to explain exactly how Ainge was supposed to land SGA and how was he doing it with assets from the original Nets trade which would make bringing it up here pertinent?
With the Nets pick that was traded for Irving.  Sexton was 8th, SGA was 11th in the same draft.
If ainge keeps IT, does He really draft SGA?

My theory/nightmare has always been that he would have traded #8, the unprotected SAC pick (that at the time most everyone felt would have some of the top lottery odds the following year) and the Memphis pick to jump from #8 to #3 or #2 to select Doncic.

At the time of the trade, I was mad in part because it cost us any chance at Luka (mostly because I didn’t like trading IT after he got hurt putting his body on the line for the team, but partly for Luka).
« Last Edit: February 10, 2020, 06:47:42 PM by saltlover »

Re: How do you like the Return on the KG/PP to nets trade now?
« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2020, 05:26:21 PM »

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i love it, although i wish we had shai gilgeous as well, and we easily could/would have. 

not taking anything away from Ainge, he did what most would do at the time, worth the risk.
Want to explain exactly how Ainge was supposed to land SGA and how was he doing it with assets from the original Nets trade which would make bringing it up here pertinent?
With the Nets pick that was traded for Irving.  Sexton was 8th, SGA was 11th in the same draft.
If ainge keeps IT, does He really draft SGA? And why SGa if every other GM would have picked sexton? Seems like hindsight picking

yes he would have, i’m not suggesting, he was the pick

Re: How do you like the Return on the KG/PP to nets trade now?
« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2020, 05:29:02 PM »

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i love it, although i wish we had shai gilgeous as well, and we easily could/would have. 

not taking anything away from Ainge, he did what most would do at the time, worth the risk.
Want to explain exactly how Ainge was supposed to land SGA and how was he doing it with assets from the original Nets trade which would make bringing it up here pertinent?
With the Nets pick that was traded for Irving.  Sexton was 8th, SGA was 11th in the same draft.
If ainge keeps IT, does He really draft SGA? And why SGa if every other GM would have picked sexton? Seems like hindsight picking

yes he would have, i’m not suggesting, he was the pick
Source?
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: How do you like the Return on the KG/PP to nets trade now?
« Reply #21 on: February 10, 2020, 05:39:49 PM »

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i love it, although i wish we had shai gilgeous as well, and we easily could/would have. 

not taking anything away from Ainge, he did what most would do at the time, worth the risk.
Want to explain exactly how Ainge was supposed to land SGA and how was he doing it with assets from the original Nets trade which would make bringing it up here pertinent?
With the Nets pick that was traded for Irving.  Sexton was 8th, SGA was 11th in the same draft.
If ainge keeps IT, does He really draft SGA? And why SGa if every other GM would have picked sexton? Seems like hindsight picking

yes he would have, i’m not suggesting, he was the pick
Source?

 :-X mattyice  ???

Re: How do you like the Return on the KG/PP to nets trade now?
« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2020, 05:41:36 PM »

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i love it, although i wish we had shai gilgeous as well, and we easily could/would have. 

not taking anything away from Ainge, he did what most would do at the time, worth the risk.
Want to explain exactly how Ainge was supposed to land SGA and how was he doing it with assets from the original Nets trade which would make bringing it up here pertinent?
With the Nets pick that was traded for Irving.  Sexton was 8th, SGA was 11th in the same draft.
If ainge keeps IT, does He really draft SGA? And why SGa if every other GM would have picked sexton? Seems like hindsight picking

yes he would have, i’m not suggesting, he was the pick
Source?

 :-X mattyice  ???
Never knew Matt Ryan was a C's insider ;D
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: How do you like the Return on the KG/PP to nets trade now?
« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2020, 05:46:23 PM »

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i love it, although i wish we had shai gilgeous as well, and we easily could/would have. 

not taking anything away from Ainge, he did what most would do at the time, worth the risk.
Want to explain exactly how Ainge was supposed to land SGA and how was he doing it with assets from the original Nets trade which would make bringing it up here pertinent?
With the Nets pick that was traded for Irving.  Sexton was 8th, SGA was 11th in the same draft.
If ainge keeps IT, does He really draft SGA? And why SGa if every other GM would have picked sexton? Seems like hindsight picking

yes he would have, i’m not suggesting, he was the pick
Source?

 :-X mattyice  ???
Never knew Matt Ryan was a C's insider ;D

check this out

https://forum.celticsstrong.com/index.php?topic=101728.msg2747788#msg2747788

Re: How do you like the Return on the KG/PP to nets trade now?
« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2020, 05:50:50 PM »

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i love it, although i wish we had shai gilgeous as well, and we easily could/would have. 

not taking anything away from Ainge, he did what most would do at the time, worth the risk.
Want to explain exactly how Ainge was supposed to land SGA and how was he doing it with assets from the original Nets trade which would make bringing it up here pertinent?
With the Nets pick that was traded for Irving.  Sexton was 8th, SGA was 11th in the same draft.
If ainge keeps IT, does He really draft SGA? And why SGa if every other GM would have picked sexton? Seems like hindsight picking

yes he would have, i’m not suggesting, he was the pick
Source?

 :-X mattyice  ???
Never knew Matt Ryan was a C's insider ;D

check this out

https://forum.celticsstrong.com/index.php?topic=101728.msg2747788#msg2747788
Probably going to need a bit more than an example of one thing predicted correctly, especially since we're talking about a draft that has come and gone. Seems to be an example of 20/20 hindsight
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: How do you like the Return on the KG/PP to nets trade now?
« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2020, 05:52:46 PM »

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Yeah, I have predicted tons of things correctly here. Doesn't mean I have inside Celtics info.

Re: How do you like the Return on the KG/PP to nets trade now?
« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2020, 05:53:50 PM »

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i love it, although i wish we had shai gilgeous as well, and we easily could/would have. 

not taking anything away from Ainge, he did what most would do at the time, worth the risk.
Want to explain exactly how Ainge was supposed to land SGA and how was he doing it with assets from the original Nets trade which would make bringing it up here pertinent?
With the Nets pick that was traded for Irving.  Sexton was 8th, SGA was 11th in the same draft.
If ainge keeps IT, does He really draft SGA? And why SGa if every other GM would have picked sexton? Seems like hindsight picking

yes he would have, i’m not suggesting, he was the pick
Source?

 :-X mattyice  ???
Never knew Matt Ryan was a C's insider ;D

check this out

https://forum.celticsstrong.com/index.php?topic=101728.msg2747788#msg2747788
Probably going to need a bit more than an example of one thing predicted correctly, especially since we're talking about a draft that has come and gone. Seems to be an example of 20/20 hindsight

https://forum.celticsstrong.com/index.php?topic=101827.msg2752045#msg2752045

Re: How do you like the Return on the KG/PP to nets trade now?
« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2020, 05:55:40 PM »

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i love it, although i wish we had shai gilgeous as well, and we easily could/would have. 

not taking anything away from Ainge, he did what most would do at the time, worth the risk.
Want to explain exactly how Ainge was supposed to land SGA and how was he doing it with assets from the original Nets trade which would make bringing it up here pertinent?
With the Nets pick that was traded for Irving.  Sexton was 8th, SGA was 11th in the same draft.
If ainge keeps IT, does He really draft SGA? And why SGa if every other GM would have picked sexton? Seems like hindsight picking

yes he would have, i’m not suggesting, he was the pick
Source?

 :-X mattyice  ???
Never knew Matt Ryan was a C's insider ;D

check this out

https://forum.celticsstrong.com/index.php?topic=101728.msg2747788#msg2747788
Probably going to need a bit more than an example of one thing predicted correctly, especially since we're talking about a draft that has come and gone. Seems to be an example of 20/20 hindsight

https://forum.celticsstrong.com/index.php?topic=101827.msg2752045#msg2752045
Not sure what you're trying to prove to me now. You've gotten a couple of predictions right?
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: How do you like the Return on the KG/PP to nets trade now?
« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2020, 06:00:55 PM »

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i love it, although i wish we had shai gilgeous as well, and we easily could/would have. 

not taking anything away from Ainge, he did what most would do at the time, worth the risk.
Want to explain exactly how Ainge was supposed to land SGA and how was he doing it with assets from the original Nets trade which would make bringing it up here pertinent?
With the Nets pick that was traded for Irving.  Sexton was 8th, SGA was 11th in the same draft.
If ainge keeps IT, does He really draft SGA? And why SGa if every other GM would have picked sexton? Seems like hindsight picking

yes he would have, i’m not suggesting, he was the pick
Source?

 :-X mattyice  ???
Never knew Matt Ryan was a C's insider ;D

check this out

https://forum.celticsstrong.com/index.php?topic=101728.msg2747788#msg2747788
Probably going to need a bit more than an example of one thing predicted correctly, especially since we're talking about a draft that has come and gone. Seems to be an example of 20/20 hindsight

https://forum.celticsstrong.com/index.php?topic=101827.msg2752045#msg2752045
Not sure what you're trying to prove to me now. You've gotten a couple of predictions right?

no problem, i'm off to dinner at chipotle..(JK about the place...although i am off to dinner) no sweat for me...just trying to help the insight here..i'll keep future info to myself

Re: How do you like the Return on the KG/PP to nets trade now?
« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2020, 06:18:23 PM »

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Every year this trade gets evaluated on here as there have been continued returns through trade downs and progress


We now have

-Tatum (future perennial all star?)
-brown (future on and off all star?)
- Romeo (future solid rotation player with upside?)

-You could also argue the effect of the trade made us Bad and we tanked and got smart (future dpoy)


Also remember that Danny’s plan A was to trade KG for Deandre Jordan and the nets trade was the backup plan . Lol

I would add Smart in that list. If we don't trade PP and KG. We don't become bad and draft him.

It was a good move. I didn't think we would have gotten a high pick the year we got Brown. I figure the best picks would come after thinking the Nets would have been decent up to that year. At least a late lotto. Then the next two years would have been good because PP would have been gone aling with everyone else. I didn't expect them to implode that fast.