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Re: Celtics (25-10) at 76ers (24-14) Game #36 1/9/20
« Reply #270 on: January 09, 2020, 09:41:54 PM »

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I agree with others regarding playmaking. Would be nice to get a Gasol/Iguodala type. Just someone who initiates multiple pass possessions.

Or a coach whop can recognize when we aren't moving the ball, and emphasizes that moving forward...
Brad's teams have, in the past, been fairly high in AST%. Not sure what's wrong with the current group. First time in his tenure they've been in the bottom ten in percentage of assisted baskets.

What I'm saying is, I'm sure he's emphasized it. Because he's always emphasized it before.

Re: Celtics (25-10) at 76ers (24-14) Game #36 1/9/20
« Reply #271 on: January 09, 2020, 09:42:52 PM »

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Well this game just ruined my night lol
man I do NOT like the 76ers.

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I know this is not allowed here, but I really dislike them almost more than the lakers.  Simmons and Embiid uggg.

Re: Celtics (25-10) at 76ers (24-14) Game #36 1/9/20
« Reply #272 on: January 09, 2020, 09:44:11 PM »

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Wonder if that fourth quarter fade is at least partly to balme to this being thavelling on the seond night of a back to back.

Blaming a back-to-back is a poor excuse IMO. These are pro basketball players, they should be capable of playing a basketball game on two consecutive days. Only Kemba might have an excuse coming off the flu but that's it.

Let's also not forget that they're both traveling and playing the 5th game in 7th night, which is significant. Not considering the Embiid injury, this was a schedule loss from the get-go; we just helped them out by playing poorly yet again. It's also exacerbated due to our recent slump.

I agree here, and that is why you have to win the winnable games in this league.  The real bad loss was @ Washington to a truly bad band depleted Wizards team.  If they win that game, losing a back-to-back against San Antonio and Philly is not that bad.

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Re: Celtics (25-10) at 76ers (24-14) Game #36 1/9/20
« Reply #273 on: January 09, 2020, 09:44:40 PM »

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Who has been terrible
He often, infuriatingly, sticks with what he thinks should be working, rather than actually adapting to what is working and what isn’t. Kanter always kills Horford, so naturally he doesn’t get 30 minutes.

Kanter hasn’t exactly been great tonight! Who do you want out there?
He had a great first half, and has played 6 minute since.

Just do not understand what Stevens is doing sometimes. Plus Kanter has been on a rebounding tear of late and we badly needed some offensive rebounding with our star forwards shooting so badly.

This one is tough to take - 15 point lead and our stars let us down. When Brown and Tatum have off shooting nights, they are not something like 7-20, they are more like 4-22. Just off the charts bad. Those two very inconsistent. I think Hayward is playing hurt - he is not moving well, plus shooting starts with the legs and feet, so that may explain his drop-off of late.
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Re: Celtics (25-10) at 76ers (24-14) Game #36 1/9/20
« Reply #274 on: January 09, 2020, 09:46:41 PM »

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The Celtics offense often get stagnant vs. locked in defenses like the Sixers tonight. Boston stands around, moves slowly. No action is crisp. Isos without any off-ball movement only work if you have an elite perimeter scorer. Boston doesn't. Brad Stevens needs to make changes.
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Re: Celtics (25-10) at 76ers (24-14) Game #36 1/9/20
« Reply #275 on: January 09, 2020, 09:47:11 PM »

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I agree with others regarding playmaking. Would be nice to get a Gasol/Iguodala type. Just someone who initiates multiple pass possessions.

Or a coach whop can recognize when we aren't moving the ball, and emphasizes that moving forward...

Initiating offensive movement is what Hayward is supposed to be best at - he is struggling right now. Yep, it's also the coach's job to correct bad ball movement. During time outs, you chew on the team some, "Move the Ball" !!!!!!  Something like that, Brad. Don't be calm all the time, get angry at the players when they are not executing. This composed demeanor all the time is getting old.
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« Reply #276 on: January 09, 2020, 09:48:24 PM »

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The Celtics offense often get stagnant vs. locked in defenses like the Sixers tonight. Boston stands around, moves slowly. No action is crisp. Isos without any off-ball movement only work if you have an elite perimeter scorer. Boston doesn't. Brad Stevens needs to make changes.

Yeah that ain't happening. What's he going to do, put in rookies that can't shoot?

Re: Celtics (25-10) at 76ers (24-14) Game #36 1/9/20
« Reply #277 on: January 09, 2020, 09:50:02 PM »

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The Celtics offense often get stagnant vs. locked in defenses like the Sixers tonight. Boston stands around, moves slowly. No action is crisp. Isos without any off-ball movement only work if you have an elite perimeter scorer. Boston doesn't. Brad Stevens needs to make changes.

Yeah that ain't happening. What's he going to do, put in rookies that can't shoot?

Not sure that he was advocating for lineup changes.
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Re: Celtics (25-10) at 76ers (24-14) Game #36 1/9/20
« Reply #278 on: January 09, 2020, 09:53:02 PM »

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The Celtics offense often get stagnant vs. locked in defenses like the Sixers tonight. Boston stands around, moves slowly. No action is crisp. Isos without any off-ball movement only work if you have an elite perimeter scorer. Boston doesn't. Brad Stevens needs to make changes.

Yeah that ain't happening. What's he going to do, put in rookies that can't shoot?

Not sure that he was advocating for lineup changes.

Yeah, more like either roster changes or change the offensive schemes. Cut down on the ISOs and move the ball.

Since acquiring an elite perimeter scorer is highly unlikely, the later is our only option.

Re: Celtics (25-10) at 76ers (24-14) Game #36 1/9/20
« Reply #279 on: January 09, 2020, 09:53:38 PM »

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The Celtics offense often get stagnant vs. locked in defenses like the Sixers tonight. Boston stands around, moves slowly. No action is crisp. Isos without any off-ball movement only work if you have an elite perimeter scorer. Boston doesn't. Brad Stevens needs to make changes.

Yeah that ain't happening. What's he going to do, put in rookies that can't shoot?

Not sure that he was advocating for lineup changes.

I don't see Stevens ever changing his offensive philosophy. He loves him some small ball 3 point offense. The ball may move better at times but it's always going to be favored toward shooting 3's instead of cuts that lead to layups.

Re: Celtics (25-10) at 76ers (24-14) Game #36 1/9/20
« Reply #280 on: January 09, 2020, 09:54:43 PM »

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The Celtics offense often get stagnant vs. locked in defenses like the Sixers tonight. Boston stands around, moves slowly. No action is crisp. Isos without any off-ball movement only work if you have an elite perimeter scorer. Boston doesn't. Brad Stevens needs to make changes.

Yeah that ain't happening. What's he going to do, put in rookies that can't shoot?

Not sure that he was advocating for lineup changes.
Cut down on the ISOs and move the ball.

I am all for that.  It seems the other teams def have adjusted to us going ISO so much that they expect it now.  We need to get back to moving the ball.

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« Reply #281 on: January 09, 2020, 09:56:06 PM »

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Seems like I was lucky to have missed the game lol.
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Re: Celtics (25-10) at 76ers (24-14) Game #36 1/9/20
« Reply #282 on: January 09, 2020, 09:58:17 PM »

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The Celtics offense often get stagnant vs. locked in defenses like the Sixers tonight. Boston stands around, moves slowly. No action is crisp. Isos without any off-ball movement only work if you have an elite perimeter scorer. Boston doesn't. Brad Stevens needs to make changes.
It's a good observation but I think the changes would be more in their offensive system vs putting other players in. They don't have anyone else on the roster who can come in and make a difference. 

I think that when certain teams lock in on defense they contest passes.  And when that happens, some of these guys get hesitant to throw passes thinking they might get picked off. 

The other thing that disappears is the ability of certain players to get to the basket - which makes them a jump shooting team as they were a year ago.

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« Reply #283 on: January 09, 2020, 09:59:08 PM »

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Judging from the comments, have we regressed back to playing tiddlywinks on the perimeter like last season? Zero off ball movement and idle waiting for an inefficient iso or a swing pass/PnR that does nothing because there is no off ball movement to tug and pull the defence to create openings?
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Re: Celtics (25-10) at 76ers (24-14) Game #36 1/9/20
« Reply #284 on: January 09, 2020, 09:59:15 PM »

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This team clearly ain't built to beat the 76ers


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