Celtics (4-1) at Cavaliers (2-4) Game #6 11/5/19

[Atzar]

Right now Goga is starting for the Pacers and has played 31 minutes.

The game is going to overtime and Goga has 6 points, 10 rebounds, and 3 blocks.

Again, the point is Ainge could have done better.

This is nothing but a short sighted take. Wait for at least 5 years before telling people that Ainge should have picked better. These are the same old takes when the Celtics took guys like Bradley.

And where is Bradley now?

Ainge even traded Bradley because he didn't want Bradley long term.

Oh come on.  Bradley was a solid cost-controlled player for several years before eventually being traded to shed salary so we could be active players in free agency.

Acting like Bradley was a bad pick for us is a horrible take.

[footey]

Great game, Gordon. Love the energy he brought team out of the gate.

[Fierce1]

Ainge should've just drafted Goga Bitadze.

you sure thats not a type of jock itch ?

Javonte, an undrafted player, got play in the 2nd qtr.

Romeo, a lottery pick, is in Maine.

Bitadze is a Center.
A Center is what the Celts need.
Not that hard to figure out.

You dont draft for need. Besides, romeo was drafted for his ceiling. What they do in their first years is basically a wash.

Ceiling?

Romeo does not have good shooting mechanics.

It's almost as if there are many other things about a player that gives them a high ceiling.

Drafting a shooting guard with shooting problems?

Oh boy yet another hilarious take. Shooting guard position is not only for shooters. Derozan became an all-star FYI.

The point is Romeo was not the best player available.

Alexander-Walker was available.

That's entirely your opinion. Our front office clearly think differently

True.

But right now the front office is not looking good.

It's looking like Ainge drafting JR Giddens!

Are you seriously already comparing him to a bust? Do people even think before they speak?

I'm not saying Romeo is a bust.

What I'm saying is the Celts could have done better.

Sure you aren't. You just happen to bring up a bust when talking about Romeo. I'm saying you're incredibly wrong. It's Robert Upshaw all over again.

Too early to tell.

But best player available at that time was not Romeo.

Alexander-Walker was ranked higher.

Well, ****. If someone was ranked higher, then Ainge definitely made a mistake. When are pre-draft ranking ever wrong? 

Danny is such a bum, he should've drafted Fultz because he was ranked higher!

Ainge is not perfect.

Olynyk instead of Giannis is just one example.

Are you sure? Because Giannis only had 16 points (and 2 DNPs) in his team's first 6 games after being drafted, while Kelly had 49.  And as you already established, the forst 6 games of a player's career defines how good the pick was

It doesnt add up. Based on what I call, the Fierce metrics, Olynyk is the right pick because he scored more than Giannis in their first 6 games. By that same metric though, Tatum was the right pick over Fultz. But then again he also said to pick the higher ranked guy, so Fultz should be the right pick.

Like I said, Ainge is not perfect.

But my question to you is if a person disagrees with your opinion, does that make the person an idiot?

It depends on how bad that person's take is.

So this forum allows name calling and insults?

It certainly allows people to play the victim

Victim or not, Ainge is not looking good right now because there are at least 5 players drafted after Romeo that would have helped the Celts right now.

Celts are built to win now.

Ainge didn't sign Kemba 34m per year so that the Celts will be contender 5 years from now.

The Celtics future a 23 year old, and a 21.5 year old. I'd say five years from now is firmly in their window.

Agree!

So why gamble on a player like Romeo when there were better options?

[kraidstar]

Nice to see Carsen Edwards finally find his stroke in a real game. Hopefully that confidence carries over, because we need a shooter like that off the bench

I'm thinking he pushes Wanamaker out of the rotation by January an becomes a real spark plug off the bench for us. I know he won't have a Smart-level impact, but I'd love to see his hustle and shooting be able to spark runs like Smart's hustle and defense

Yes, we need a guy with the 3-pt swagger to quickly pull us out of slumps. Pretty much every championship team has a guy or two like that who can quickly swing the momentum.

[Fierce1]

Right now Goga is starting for the Pacers and has played 31 minutes.

The game is going to overtime and Goga has 6 points, 10 rebounds, and 3 blocks.

Again, the point is Ainge could have done better.

This is nothing but a short sighted take. Wait for at least 5 years before telling people that Ainge should have picked better. These are the same old takes when the Celtics took guys like Bradley.

And where is Bradley now?

Ainge even traded Bradley because he didn't want Bradley long term.

Oh come on.  Bradley was a solid cost-controlled player for several years before eventually being traded to shed salary so we could be active players in free agency.

Acting like Bradley was a bad pick for us is a horrible take.

I have no problems with Bradley because he was not a lottery pick.

At #19, Bradley was a solid pick.

But I think Ainge could have done better with the #14 pick.

[BitterJim]

Ainge should've just drafted Goga Bitadze.

you sure thats not a type of jock itch ?

Javonte, an undrafted player, got play in the 2nd qtr.

Romeo, a lottery pick, is in Maine.

Bitadze is a Center.
A Center is what the Celts need.
Not that hard to figure out.

You dont draft for need. Besides, romeo was drafted for his ceiling. What they do in their first years is basically a wash.

Ceiling?

Romeo does not have good shooting mechanics.

It's almost as if there are many other things about a player that gives them a high ceiling.

Drafting a shooting guard with shooting problems?

Oh boy yet another hilarious take. Shooting guard position is not only for shooters. Derozan became an all-star FYI.

The point is Romeo was not the best player available.

Alexander-Walker was available.

That's entirely your opinion. Our front office clearly think differently

True.

But right now the front office is not looking good.

It's looking like Ainge drafting JR Giddens!

Are you seriously already comparing him to a bust? Do people even think before they speak?

I'm not saying Romeo is a bust.

What I'm saying is the Celts could have done better.

Sure you aren't. You just happen to bring up a bust when talking about Romeo. I'm saying you're incredibly wrong. It's Robert Upshaw all over again.

Too early to tell.

But best player available at that time was not Romeo.

Alexander-Walker was ranked higher.

Well, ****. If someone was ranked higher, then Ainge definitely made a mistake. When are pre-draft ranking ever wrong? 

Danny is such a bum, he should've drafted Fultz because he was ranked higher!

Ainge is not perfect.

Olynyk instead of Giannis is just one example.

Are you sure? Because Giannis only had 16 points (and 2 DNPs) in his team's first 6 games after being drafted, while Kelly had 49.  And as you already established, the forst 6 games of a player's career defines how good the pick was

It doesnt add up. Based on what I call, the Fierce metrics, Olynyk is the right pick because he scored more than Giannis in their first 6 games. By that same metric though, Tatum was the right pick over Fultz. But then again he also said to pick the higher ranked guy, so Fultz should be the right pick.

Like I said, Ainge is not perfect.

But my question to you is if a person disagrees with your opinion, does that make the person an idiot?

It depends on how bad that person's take is.

So this forum allows name calling and insults?

It certainly allows people to play the victim

Victim or not, Ainge is not looking good right now because there are at least 5 players drafted after Romeo that would have helped the Celts right now.

Celts are built to win now.

Ainge didn't sign Kemba 34m per year so that the Celts will be contender 5 years from now.

The Celtics future a 23 year old, and a 21.5 year old. I'd say five years from now is firmly in their window.

Agree!

So why gamble on a player like Romeo when there were better options players that I liked more?

FTFY

[mr. dee]

Ainge should've just drafted Goga Bitadze.

you sure thats not a type of jock itch ?

Javonte, an undrafted player, got play in the 2nd qtr.

Romeo, a lottery pick, is in Maine.

Bitadze is a Center.
A Center is what the Celts need.
Not that hard to figure out.

You dont draft for need. Besides, romeo was drafted for his ceiling. What they do in their first years is basically a wash.

Ceiling?

Romeo does not have good shooting mechanics.

It's almost as if there are many other things about a player that gives them a high ceiling.

Drafting a shooting guard with shooting problems?

Oh boy yet another hilarious take. Shooting guard position is not only for shooters. Derozan became an all-star FYI.

The point is Romeo was not the best player available.

Alexander-Walker was available.

That's entirely your opinion. Our front office clearly think differently

True.

But right now the front office is not looking good.

It's looking like Ainge drafting JR Giddens!

Are you seriously already comparing him to a bust? Do people even think before they speak?

I'm not saying Romeo is a bust.

What I'm saying is the Celts could have done better.

Sure you aren't. You just happen to bring up a bust when talking about Romeo. I'm saying you're incredibly wrong. It's Robert Upshaw all over again.

Too early to tell.

But best player available at that time was not Romeo.

Alexander-Walker was ranked higher.

Well, ****. If someone was ranked higher, then Ainge definitely made a mistake. When are pre-draft ranking ever wrong? 

Danny is such a bum, he should've drafted Fultz because he was ranked higher!

Ainge is not perfect.

Olynyk instead of Giannis is just one example.

Are you sure? Because Giannis only had 16 points (and 2 DNPs) in his team's first 6 games after being drafted, while Kelly had 49.  And as you already established, the forst 6 games of a player's career defines how good the pick was

It doesnt add up. Based on what I call, the Fierce metrics, Olynyk is the right pick because he scored more than Giannis in their first 6 games. By that same metric though, Tatum was the right pick over Fultz. But then again he also said to pick the higher ranked guy, so Fultz should be the right pick.

Like I said, Ainge is not perfect.

But my question to you is if a person disagrees with your opinion, does that make the person an idiot?

It depends on how bad that person's take is.

So this forum allows name calling and insults?

It certainly allows people to play the victim

Victim or not, Ainge is not looking good right now because there are at least 5 players drafted after Romeo that would have helped the Celts right now.

Celts are built to win now.

Ainge didn't sign Kemba 34m per year so that the Celts will be contender 5 years from now.

The Celtics future a 23 year old, and a 21.5 year old. I'd say five years from now is firmly in their window.

Agree!

So why gamble on a player like Romeo when there were better options?

The same reason why they gambled with the likes of Sully, Giddens, Melo and AB during the Big 3 era.

[RockinRyA]

Ainge should've just drafted Goga Bitadze.

you sure thats not a type of jock itch ?

Javonte, an undrafted player, got play in the 2nd qtr.

Romeo, a lottery pick, is in Maine.

Bitadze is a Center.
A Center is what the Celts need.
Not that hard to figure out.

You dont draft for need. Besides, romeo was drafted for his ceiling. What they do in their first years is basically a wash.

Ceiling?

Romeo does not have good shooting mechanics.

It's almost as if there are many other things about a player that gives them a high ceiling.

Drafting a shooting guard with shooting problems?

Oh boy yet another hilarious take. Shooting guard position is not only for shooters. Derozan became an all-star FYI.

The point is Romeo was not the best player available.

Alexander-Walker was available.

That's entirely your opinion. Our front office clearly think differently

True.

But right now the front office is not looking good.

It's looking like Ainge drafting JR Giddens!

Are you seriously already comparing him to a bust? Do people even think before they speak?

I'm not saying Romeo is a bust.

What I'm saying is the Celts could have done better.

Sure you aren't. You just happen to bring up a bust when talking about Romeo. I'm saying you're incredibly wrong. It's Robert Upshaw all over again.

Too early to tell.

But best player available at that time was not Romeo.

Alexander-Walker was ranked higher.

Well, ****. If someone was ranked higher, then Ainge definitely made a mistake. When are pre-draft ranking ever wrong? 

Danny is such a bum, he should've drafted Fultz because he was ranked higher!

Ainge is not perfect.

Olynyk instead of Giannis is just one example.

Are you sure? Because Giannis only had 16 points (and 2 DNPs) in his team's first 6 games after being drafted, while Kelly had 49.  And as you already established, the forst 6 games of a player's career defines how good the pick was

It doesnt add up. Based on what I call, the Fierce metrics, Olynyk is the right pick because he scored more than Giannis in their first 6 games. By that same metric though, Tatum was the right pick over Fultz. But then again he also said to pick the higher ranked guy, so Fultz should be the right pick.

Like I said, Ainge is not perfect.

But my question to you is if a person disagrees with your opinion, does that make the person an idiot?

It depends on how bad that person's take is.

So this forum allows name calling and insults?

It certainly allows people to play the victim

Victim or not, Ainge is not looking good right now because there are at least 5 players drafted after Romeo that would have helped the Celts right now.

Celts are built to win now.

Ainge didn't sign Kemba 34m per year so that the Celts will be contender 5 years from now.

He signed Kemba because the Celtics can be competitive while still having their play for the future. They aren't built to win now. Having Goga wouldnt make us a top tier team over the Sixers, Clips and Lakers. Heck even if we had Horford and Baynes Id still favor the Clips above us.

[Roy H.]

Back on topic, please.

Once more, with feeling: the next person to post about Romeo Langford or Danny’s drafting in this thread will earn a suspension.

[Fierce1]

Ainge should've just drafted Goga Bitadze.

you sure thats not a type of jock itch ?

Javonte, an undrafted player, got play in the 2nd qtr.

Romeo, a lottery pick, is in Maine.

Bitadze is a Center.
A Center is what the Celts need.
Not that hard to figure out.

You dont draft for need. Besides, romeo was drafted for his ceiling. What they do in their first years is basically a wash.

Ceiling?

Romeo does not have good shooting mechanics.

It's almost as if there are many other things about a player that gives them a high ceiling.

Drafting a shooting guard with shooting problems?

Oh boy yet another hilarious take. Shooting guard position is not only for shooters. Derozan became an all-star FYI.

The point is Romeo was not the best player available.

Alexander-Walker was available.

That's entirely your opinion. Our front office clearly think differently

True.

But right now the front office is not looking good.

It's looking like Ainge drafting JR Giddens!

Are you seriously already comparing him to a bust? Do people even think before they speak?

I'm not saying Romeo is a bust.

What I'm saying is the Celts could have done better.

Sure you aren't. You just happen to bring up a bust when talking about Romeo. I'm saying you're incredibly wrong. It's Robert Upshaw all over again.

Too early to tell.

But best player available at that time was not Romeo.

Alexander-Walker was ranked higher.

Well, ****. If someone was ranked higher, then Ainge definitely made a mistake. When are pre-draft ranking ever wrong? 

Danny is such a bum, he should've drafted Fultz because he was ranked higher!

Ainge is not perfect.

Olynyk instead of Giannis is just one example.

Are you sure? Because Giannis only had 16 points (and 2 DNPs) in his team's first 6 games after being drafted, while Kelly had 49.  And as you already established, the forst 6 games of a player's career defines how good the pick was

It doesnt add up. Based on what I call, the Fierce metrics, Olynyk is the right pick because he scored more than Giannis in their first 6 games. By that same metric though, Tatum was the right pick over Fultz. But then again he also said to pick the higher ranked guy, so Fultz should be the right pick.

Like I said, Ainge is not perfect.

But my question to you is if a person disagrees with your opinion, does that make the person an idiot?

It depends on how bad that person's take is.

So this forum allows name calling and insults?

It certainly allows people to play the victim

Victim or not, Ainge is not looking good right now because there are at least 5 players drafted after Romeo that would have helped the Celts right now.

Celts are built to win now.

Ainge didn't sign Kemba 34m per year so that the Celts will be contender 5 years from now.

The Celtics future a 23 year old, and a 21.5 year old. I'd say five years from now is firmly in their window.

Agree!

So why gamble on a player like Romeo when there were better options?

The same reason why they gambled with the likes of Sully, Giddens, Melo and AB during the Big 3 era.

Mod already said stop.

[hpantazo]

Good game, a win is a win, and its great to see Hayward play up to his potential.

Some issues though from tonight's game:

-We let the Cavs hang around way too long, we should have put them away much earlier. Part of that was due to Stevens odd lineups.

-We need Jaylen's defense. The outside shooting of the Cavs killed us, not their inside play.

-Wanamaker sucks. He's selfish, reminds me of a very undersized Mook, except he's supposed to be our point guard out there.

[Fierce1]

Back on topic, please.

Once more, with feeling: the next person to post about Romeo Langford or Danny’s drafting in this thread will earn a suspension.

Let's call a spade a spade.

Talking about Romeo or Danny's drafting merits a suspension.
That's fair.

But I also think posters here calling other posters idiots should also get penalized.

[Fierce1]

Good game, a win is a win, and its great to see Hayward play up to his potential.

Some issues though from tonight's game:

-We let the Cavs hang around way too long, we should have put them away much earlier. Part of that was due to Stevens odd lineups.

-We need Jaylen's defense. The outside shooting of the Cavs killed us, not their inside play.

-Wanamaker sucks. He's selfish, reminds me of a very undersized Mook, except he's supposed to be our point guard out there.

Stevens likes to experiment with lineups early in the season.

Tristan Thompson hurt the Celts with his offensive rebounds and defense in the 4th qtr.

[liam]

Good game, a win is a win, and its great to see Hayward play up to his potential.

Some issues though from tonight's game:

-We let the Cavs hang around way too long, we should have put them away much earlier. Part of that was due to Stevens odd lineups.

-We need Jaylen's defense. The outside shooting of the Cavs killed us, not their inside play.

-Wanamaker sucks. He's selfish, reminds me of a very undersized Mook, except he's supposed to be our point guard out there.

I thought it was a very good win by an undermanned squad.

[Roy H.]

Back on topic, please.

Once more, with feeling: the next person to post about Romeo Langford or Danny’s drafting in this thread will earn a suspension.

Let's call a spade a spade.

Talking about Romeo or Danny's drafting merits a suspension.
That's fair.

But I also think posters here calling other posters idiots should also get penalized.

Report the post, please. I absolutely agree, nobody should be personally attacking other posters.