Celtics (0-0) at Sixers (0-0) Game #1 10/23/19

[cltc5]

In the meantime, Kyrie went for 50 tonight and the Nets still lost

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[ozgod]

I am done with Brad, yall can cut him as much slack as you want, but I have seen enough. DONE. He is going to have to win back my trust.

He sat these veterans for the last preseason game. He must have thought they were ready. Huge fail.

It’s going to be a long season for you Ogaju if you’re giving up after one game 

lol it was a long season last season I just do not wish to be an Ostrich this season.

I will give him till December. If it's still bad by then I will join you in calling Brad a ****hound! 

let me ask you this. What is the pecking order on this team, really? Have you ever seen Brad sit anyone down for making  bad play or taking a bad shot. Is there any accountability on this team? I do not see any. Did he challenge any calls? You know you can now challenge calls officially. Did he challenge any calls. Because this blog does seem to think the referees were awful. So I ask again did boy wonder challenge any calls?

I don't think Brad really has a pecking order given the talent he (think he) has on the roster. With IT it was IT > everyone else because other than Avery everyone else was workmanlike. With the team of the last few years, with JB, JT, Gordon, Kyrie last year and now Kemba, I think he's adopting an egalitarian system where if you have an open shot or a good look you take it. I feel like most of the shots G took tonight were good looks, he passed some up in the first half but was more aggressive in the 2nd. Kemba had some good looks, just missed, i think it will take him some games to get used to being part of an ensemble offense rather than being the centerpiece. The offense he played in in Charlotte was a lot more iso heavy than the one Brad wants. JB couldn't get any rhythm because of the fouls and when he came back he looked like he was pressing and took a couple of bad (panic) threes.

It was really Tatum who shot us out of the lead in the first half, he took some bad shot options and the good ones that he took where he tried to be aggressive and drive to the rim he missed. He just made too many mistakes and I think it was coming from being too eager to impress. He made some really difficult shots but took a lot of difficult ones and missed some easy ones. He's the guy that I think Brad should really be talking to about shot selection and not pressing.

Speaking of Brad, I've given up on Brad being a fire and brimstone type coach because it's not his nature. I don't think we will ever see him yell at a player or tell him off for making a bad shot, his whole deal is giving players confidence, trying to be uplifting. I'm sure all the criticism he gives will be behind closed doors to respect the player. The only time I've seen him hook a player is for being lazy on defense. I'm ok with that approach, as long as in private he's making sure he's getting his point across. The biggest criticism of him last year was in letting players self-manage themselves and not intervening till it's too late. It's a younger group than what he had with IT, and the rest of that group, even more so this year than last year. This is where he needs to have a bit more Roy Williams or Mike Krzyzewski in him and not let the inmates run the asylum.

But it's only game 1. Too early (for me anyway) to slit wrists. Everyone deserves a fresh start at the beginning of the new season. We'll see what happens over the next month or so.

[RJ87]

In the meantime, Kyrie went for 50 tonight and the Nets still lost

Funny enough, they probably would've won if he took the shot himself t the end of regulation instead of passing it to Jarrett Allen.

[Fierce1]

Ever since last season it's always excuses for Jaylen Brown.

Now he's being paid around 26m per year, so I think it's time to stop making excuses for Jaylen.

Reason why Brown got in foul trouble is he was playing the 4.
Maybe Brown can handle the 4s in college and FIBA, but 4s in the NBA are stronger and better.
When the game started, Jaylen was guarding Horford.
That resulted in Jaylen getting in foul trouble.
Jaylen is not an NBA 4.

[keevsnick]

Ever since last season it's always excuses for Jaylen Brown.

Now he's being paid around 26m per year, so I think it's time to stop making excuses for Jaylen.

Reason why Brown got in foul trouble is he was playing the 4.
Maybe Brown can handle the 4s in college and FIBA, but 4s in the NBA are stronger and better.
When the game started, Jaylen was guarding Horford.
That resulted in Jaylen getting in foul trouble.
Jaylen is not an NBA 4.

I find his strange, he did really well on Horford tonight. I don't remember every foul he committed but I know that 4 of them were on Harris, Ennis, Richardson and one on Ebiid (offensive). So none on a guy playing power forward or in the post.

[jambr380]

Brutal game to be at (Sixers fans are not all that nice and I finally found an arena that Cs fans don’t show up to).

Kemba was absolutely dreadful and we couldn’t hit FTs. That’s really what did us in. I understand the Tatum criticism, but he actually hit a few key shots and I liked his aggression going to the hoop. Wish Jaylen and TL got to play more.

Not overly impressed by the Sixers, but even less impressed with us. Hopefully we can climb back from this one. Even with all that went wrong, we still had a chance to take it until the Korkmaz/Harris 3s. Time to leave this one behind and move forward to the next one.

[RockinRyA]

Ever since last season it's always excuses for Jaylen Brown.

Now he's being paid around 26m per year, so I think it's time to stop making excuses for Jaylen.

Reason why Brown got in foul trouble is he was playing the 4.
Maybe Brown can handle the 4s in college and FIBA, but 4s in the NBA are stronger and better.
When the game started, Jaylen was guarding Horford.
That resulted in Jaylen getting in foul trouble.
Jaylen is not an NBA 4.

2 if those fouls were bogus though

[slamtheking]

tonight's takeaways:
Good
- Hayward's not Utah Hayward but he's a lot better than what we had last season
- Brown's more aggressive on offense and D was ok.  too many BS calls on him made him a non-contributor for most of the game
- Kanter is better than he showed in preseason
- Smart is still Smart on D.  Shooting isn't what it was last season
- Semi was decent on D.  not so much on O
- Team rebounding was respectable in the first half considering who we were playing

Not So Good
- Kemba is no Kyrie on offense. 
- Tatum was a wreck on offense. 
- FTs were horrific.  inexcusable to be this bad
- Edwards needs to get over the jitters if he's going to be effective
- Timelord had a couple of moments but his team D needs a lot of work.

Overall: C's hit a normal % of FTs and this is a different game.  Officiating hurt them tonight as well as 2 prime scorers bricking away the entire night.  Did not miss the offense style of endlessly chucking 3's that we've endured the past few years. 

[slamtheking]

Ever since last season it's always excuses for Jaylen Brown.

Now he's being paid around 26m per year, so I think it's time to stop making excuses for Jaylen.

Reason why Brown got in foul trouble is he was playing the 4.
Maybe Brown can handle the 4s in college and FIBA, but 4s in the NBA are stronger and better.
When the game started, Jaylen was guarding Horford.
That resulted in Jaylen getting in foul trouble.
Jaylen is not an NBA 4.

you won't be happy until he's traded.  thankfully Danny sees the talent there and signed him before the season started so he can focus on just playing.  Brown wasn't the issue tonight

[Fierce1]

Ever since last season it's always excuses for Jaylen Brown.

Now he's being paid around 26m per year, so I think it's time to stop making excuses for Jaylen.

Reason why Brown got in foul trouble is he was playing the 4.
Maybe Brown can handle the 4s in college and FIBA, but 4s in the NBA are stronger and better.
When the game started, Jaylen was guarding Horford.
That resulted in Jaylen getting in foul trouble.
Jaylen is not an NBA 4.

I find his strange, he did really well on Horford tonight. I don't remember every foul he committed but I know that 4 of them were on Harris, Ennis, Richardson and one on Ebiid (offensive). So none on a guy playing power forward or in the post.

Reason is Brown had to switch a lot to protect the paint.

When you play the 4 or the 5, you're responsible for the players rolling to the basket.
That's why Brown ended up fouling Harris and the others.
If Brown was playing SF on defense, he wouldn't have to switch on the players that were rolling to the basket.

When Horford was setting a pick, Brown had to cover the player that Horford had to set a pick for.
That means Brown must stop the player coming off the Horford pick from driving to the basket.

[Fierce1]

Ever since last season it's always excuses for Jaylen Brown.

Now he's being paid around 26m per year, so I think it's time to stop making excuses for Jaylen.

Reason why Brown got in foul trouble is he was playing the 4.
Maybe Brown can handle the 4s in college and FIBA, but 4s in the NBA are stronger and better.
When the game started, Jaylen was guarding Horford.
That resulted in Jaylen getting in foul trouble.
Jaylen is not an NBA 4.

you won't be happy until he's traded.  thankfully Danny sees the talent there and signed him before the season started so he can focus on just playing.  Brown wasn't the issue tonight

Sooner or later you guys will also realize that Ainge didn't have to give Brown that extension.

[RockinRyA]

Ever since last season it's always excuses for Jaylen Brown.

Now he's being paid around 26m per year, so I think it's time to stop making excuses for Jaylen.

Reason why Brown got in foul trouble is he was playing the 4.
Maybe Brown can handle the 4s in college and FIBA, but 4s in the NBA are stronger and better.
When the game started, Jaylen was guarding Horford.
That resulted in Jaylen getting in foul trouble.
Jaylen is not an NBA 4.

I find his strange, he did really well on Horford tonight. I don't remember every foul he committed but I know that 4 of them were on Harris, Ennis, Richardson and one on Ebiid (offensive). So none on a guy playing power forward or in the post.

Reason is Brown had to switch a lot to protect the paint.

When you play the 4 or the 5, you're responsible for the players rolling to the basket.
That's why Brown ended up fouling Harris and the others.
If Brown was playing SF on defense, he wouldn't have to switch on the players that were rolling to the basket.

When Horford was setting a pick, Brown had to cover the player that Horford had to set a pick for.
That means Brown must stop the player coming off the Horford pick from driving to the basket.

Not all teams are as huge as philly. We knew it beforehand that we probably dont match up well with them unless kemba lights it up.

[Fierce1]

Ever since last season it's always excuses for Jaylen Brown.

Now he's being paid around 26m per year, so I think it's time to stop making excuses for Jaylen.

Reason why Brown got in foul trouble is he was playing the 4.
Maybe Brown can handle the 4s in college and FIBA, but 4s in the NBA are stronger and better.
When the game started, Jaylen was guarding Horford.
That resulted in Jaylen getting in foul trouble.
Jaylen is not an NBA 4.

I find his strange, he did really well on Horford tonight. I don't remember every foul he committed but I know that 4 of them were on Harris, Ennis, Richardson and one on Ebiid (offensive). So none on a guy playing power forward or in the post.

Reason is Brown had to switch a lot to protect the paint.

When you play the 4 or the 5, you're responsible for the players rolling to the basket.
That's why Brown ended up fouling Harris and the others.
If Brown was playing SF on defense, he wouldn't have to switch on the players that were rolling to the basket.

When Horford was setting a pick, Brown had to cover the player that Horford had to set a pick for.
That means Brown must stop the player coming off the Horford pick from driving to the basket.

Not all teams are as huge as philly. We knew it beforehand that we probably dont match up well with them unless kemba lights it up.

True.

I think Celts will be fine against other teams.

But Ainge will have to address the need for a quality big man for the Celts to have success in this year's playoffs.

Brad ended up playing 1 PG and 4 wings in the last few minutes in this game.
That's really not a good idea as there would be no rim protection and rebounding.

[Somebody]

Ever since last season it's always excuses for Jaylen Brown.

Now he's being paid around 26m per year, so I think it's time to stop making excuses for Jaylen.

Reason why Brown got in foul trouble is he was playing the 4.
Maybe Brown can handle the 4s in college and FIBA, but 4s in the NBA are stronger and better.
When the game started, Jaylen was guarding Horford.
That resulted in Jaylen getting in foul trouble.
Jaylen is not an NBA 4.

There would be no excuses if he ever got the opportunity that a player with his contract would usually get on the court.

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

Ever since last season it's always excuses for Jaylen Brown.

Now he's being paid around 26m per year, so I think it's time to stop making excuses for Jaylen.

Reason why Brown got in foul trouble is he was playing the 4.
Maybe Brown can handle the 4s in college and FIBA, but 4s in the NBA are stronger and better.
When the game started, Jaylen was guarding Horford.
That resulted in Jaylen getting in foul trouble.
Jaylen is not an NBA 4.

I find his strange, he did really well on Horford tonight. I don't remember every foul he committed but I know that 4 of them were on Harris, Ennis, Richardson and one on Ebiid (offensive). So none on a guy playing power forward or in the post.

Reason is Brown had to switch a lot to protect the paint.

When you play the 4 or the 5, you're responsible for the players rolling to the basket.
That's why Brown ended up fouling Harris and the others.
If Brown was playing SF on defense, he wouldn't have to switch on the players that were rolling to the basket.

When Horford was setting a pick, Brown had to cover the player that Horford had to set a pick for.
That means Brown must stop the player coming off the Horford pick from driving to the basket.

Not all teams are as huge as philly. We knew it beforehand that we probably dont match up well with them unless kemba lights it up.

But Philly's one of our chief competitors in the division AND in the conference; shouldn't we be better prepared to deal with their size?

And there are probably more "big" teams than many people realize. Boston had quite a few games last season in which they struggled against size.