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Re: How Many More Years Do We Give Ainge to Win a Championship?
« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2019, 04:26:15 AM »

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How I Miss the days of Pitino and Carr...maybe we can steal away the Knicks or Suns or Kings GM...They are always fielding competitive teams 😐

Danny can stay as long as he wants. He is a tireless worker and I hope his health holds up. Things can be much worse...remember the 90’s.

True.

The 1990s was absolutely horrible for Celtic fans.

There was no direction.

All the front office cared about making the playoffs even when it had no chance of advancing beyond the 1st round.

The only good thing that happened to the Celts in the 1990s was the drafting of Paul Pierce.
What about Chauncey? Sure he got traded, but that was more about Pitino ****ing up than the draft pick being bad.

True.

I really hated Pitino for trading Billups.

Didn't even give Billups one full season.

That's why I can't include Billups in the positives for the 1990s because his stint was just too short.

I mean why would you trade the #3 pick after just a few months?

Pitino really made a bad decision.

Re: How Many More Years Do We Give Ainge to Win a Championship?
« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2019, 05:19:16 AM »

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Ainge gets a lifetime pass. He doesn't have to win anything. Ainge is much like Stevens and Hayward. They get passes for everything.

Re: How Many More Years Do We Give Ainge to Win a Championship?
« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2019, 05:43:46 AM »

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How many more seasons do we give Ainge to win a championship? It has been almost a dozen years. 2? 3? 4? Another 11?

I, for one, am going to be sorely disappointed if we do not win a championship by 2022, particularly if the Lakers somehow win another. I think Ainge should be given three more years/seasons to win a championship before it’s time to move on. The Kyrie thing is not his fault. But if we continue to fail 3 more years, that would be one championship in how many seasons?

Your not going to give him anything because you're not a Celtics Owner.   You can be disappointed until you are blue in the face and crying tears and the owners won't care.

You live in title town and your post comes off as a entitled spoiled brat quite frankly.   
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Re: How Many More Years Do We Give Ainge to Win a Championship?
« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2019, 06:11:21 AM »

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How I Miss the days of Pitino and Carr...maybe we can steal away the Knicks or Suns or Kings GM...They are always fielding competitive teams 😐

Danny can stay as long as he wants. He is a tireless worker and I hope his health holds up. Things can be much worse...remember the 90’s.

True.

The 1990s was absolutely horrible for Celtic fans.

There was no direction.

All the front office cared about making the playoffs even when it had no chance of advancing beyond the 1st round.

The only good thing that happened to the Celts in the 1990s was the drafting of Paul Pierce.
What about Chauncey? Sure he got traded, but that was more about Pitino ****ing up than the draft pick being bad.

True.

I really hated Pitino for trading Billups.

Didn't even give Billups one full season.

That's why I can't include Billups in the positives for the 1990s because his stint was just too short.

I mean why would you trade the #3 pick after just a few months?

Pitino really made a bad decision.
I wasn't born back then, but I'd probably be really p---ed about passing on T-Mac for Ron Mercer at #6 in the draft.
Jaylen Brown for All-NBA

Re: How Many More Years Do We Give Ainge to Win a Championship?
« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2019, 06:12:42 AM »

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How many more seasons do we give Ainge to win a championship? It has been almost a dozen years. 2? 3? 4? Another 11?

I, for one, am going to be sorely disappointed if we do not win a championship by 2022, particularly if the Lakers somehow win another. I think Ainge should be given three more years/seasons to win a championship before it’s time to move on. The Kyrie thing is not his fault. But if we continue to fail 3 more years, that would be one championship in how many seasons?

Your not going to give him anything because you're not a Celtics Owner.   You can be disappointed until you are blue in the face and crying tears and the owners won't care.

You live in title town and your post comes off as a entitled spoiled brat quite frankly.

So true.

Boston is indeed title town in this decade.

Pats, Sox, and Bruins all won championships the last 10 years.

Even the Celts made a finals appearance in 2010.

Re: How Many More Years Do We Give Ainge to Win a Championship?
« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2019, 06:22:09 AM »

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I'd say we give him exactly 2,7561 years.
If he doesn't deliver us LOB by then he should be immediately fired after that expire date.
Even if he disagrees, just say "no buts" and sack him.
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Re: How Many More Years Do We Give Ainge to Win a Championship?
« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2019, 06:26:21 AM »

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How I Miss the days of Pitino and Carr...maybe we can steal away the Knicks or Suns or Kings GM...They are always fielding competitive teams 😐

Danny can stay as long as he wants. He is a tireless worker and I hope his health holds up. Things can be much worse...remember the 90’s.

True.

The 1990s was absolutely horrible for Celtic fans.

There was no direction.

All the front office cared about making the playoffs even when it had no chance of advancing beyond the 1st round.

The only good thing that happened to the Celts in the 1990s was the drafting of Paul Pierce.
What about Chauncey? Sure he got traded, but that was more about Pitino ****ing up than the draft pick being bad.

True.

I really hated Pitino for trading Billups.

Didn't even give Billups one full season.

That's why I can't include Billups in the positives for the 1990s because his stint was just too short.

I mean why would you trade the #3 pick after just a few months?

Pitino really made a bad decision.
I wasn't born back then, but I'd probably be really p---ed about passing on T-Mac for Ron Mercer at #6 in the draft.

It was a different era.

I remember the 1990s very well because I was always hoping the Celts would get a franchise player.

Regarding Mercer and T-Mac, at that time, Mercer was a good pick.

T-Mac was too much of a risk as he was just a high school player.

Mercer was very athletic and had a killer jump shot.
The problem with Mercer is he was not a good 3-point shooter.
That's why he didn't last long in the NBA.

At the end of the season, Mercer was All-Rookie 1st team and McGrady wasn't on the 1st or 2nd team All-Rookie.

Selecting Mercer over McGrady at that time wasn't a mistake.
Nobody really knew that McGrady would turn into a superstar at that time.

Re: How Many More Years Do We Give Ainge to Win a Championship?
« Reply #22 on: July 28, 2019, 06:33:37 AM »

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For those who remembered, the most heartbreaking Celtics draft, in my more than 30 years of being a Celts fan, was 2001.

Before the 2001 Draft, there were already rumors I read that the Celts were going to pick a PG from France named Tony Parker.

Celts were picking #21 and to my surprise it wasn't Parker, it was Forte!

Here's an article about that event.
https://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/article/tony-parker-boston-celtics-nba-draft-2001-10796813.php

According to ESPN’s Chris Forsberg, the Celtics planned that evening to select Parker with the No. 21 pick. 

Parker, sitting in the Madison Square Garden stands, even held a Celtics cap in his hand for a few short minutes, delivered to him by NBA executive vice president of strategy and development Chrysa Chin,
who at that time served as the league’s vice president of player development.

"I don't remember what happened [with Parker], but normally what happens when a player doesn't get the hat that he's supposed to is there's been a change in the pick or there's been a trade, or a trade is coming, or there was discussion of a trade and maybe it was unsettled," Chin told ESPN.

General manager Red Auerbach, architect of Boston’s dynasty five decades earlier, shifted at the last moment. Parker’s hat instead went to North Carolina guard Joe Forte.

Re: How Many More Years Do We Give Ainge to Win a Championship?
« Reply #23 on: July 28, 2019, 06:38:19 AM »

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What's worse is the Celts traded Joe Johnson at the trade deadline that season.

Just like the Billups trade in 1998, Joe Johnson only played a few months for the Celts in 2001-02.

Imagine if the Celts kept Joe Johnson and drafted Tony Parker in 2001.

Re: How Many More Years Do We Give Ainge to Win a Championship?
« Reply #24 on: July 28, 2019, 07:08:06 AM »

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This team right now, isnt going to win any titles in the upcoming years
C/PF-Horford, Baynes, Noel, Theis, Morris,
SF/SG- Tatum, Brown, Hayward, Smart, Semi, Clark
PG- Irving, Rozier, Larkin

Re: How Many More Years Do We Give Ainge to Win a Championship?
« Reply #25 on: July 28, 2019, 07:20:00 AM »

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i don’t know, how soon do you want the franchise to start sucking for an extended period of time?

It amazes me how warped people’s perspective can be. We’ve made three serious playoff runs in a row, and but for some freak injuries would have gone further. But yeah, let’s fire the guy who created the whole situation.

Re: How Many More Years Do We Give Ainge to Win a Championship?
« Reply #26 on: July 28, 2019, 07:58:45 AM »

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What's worse is the Celts traded Joe Johnson at the trade deadline that season.

Just like the Billups trade in 1998, Joe Johnson only played a few months for the Celts in 2001-02.

Imagine if the Celts kept Joe Johnson and drafted Tony Parker in 2001.

Chauncey trade hurt us more than Joe Johnson did because he won with the Pistons although Raptors also lost that trade because he didn't become a great contributor with them.

Joe Johnson was a redundant talent at that time and we have Paul Pierce and Antoine Walker who needed touches to be effective. Even if we drafted Parker, there is no guarantee he'll become a star he is like he was in San Antonio. Pop's system was a perfect fit for Parker to strive. I doubt he would develop as much under Jim O'brien. Pitino also had Bruce Bowen at one point too.

Re: How Many More Years Do We Give Ainge to Win a Championship?
« Reply #27 on: July 28, 2019, 08:08:17 AM »

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How I Miss the days of Pitino and Carr...maybe we can steal away the Knicks or Suns or Kings GM...They are always fielding competitive teams 😐

Danny can stay as long as he wants. He is a tireless worker and I hope his health holds up. Things can be much worse...remember the 90’s.

True.

The 1990s was absolutely horrible for Celtic fans.

There was no direction.

All the front office cared about making the playoffs even when it had no chance of advancing beyond the 1st round.

The only good thing that happened to the Celts in the 1990s was the drafting of Paul Pierce.
What about Chauncey? Sure he got traded, but that was more about Pitino ****ing up than the draft pick being bad.

True.

I really hated Pitino for trading Billups.

Didn't even give Billups one full season.

That's why I can't include Billups in the positives for the 1990s because his stint was just too short.

I mean why would you trade the #3 pick after just a few months?

Pitino really made a bad decision.
I wasn't born back then, but I'd probably be really p---ed about passing on T-Mac for Ron Mercer at #6 in the draft.

It was a different era.

I remember the 1990s very well because I was always hoping the Celts would get a franchise player.

Regarding Mercer and T-Mac, at that time, Mercer was a good pick.

T-Mac was too much of a risk as he was just a high school player.

Mercer was very athletic and had a killer jump shot.
The problem with Mercer is he was not a good 3-point shooter.
That's why he didn't last long in the NBA.

At the end of the season, Mercer was All-Rookie 1st team and McGrady wasn't on the 1st or 2nd team All-Rookie.

Selecting Mercer over McGrady at that time wasn't a mistake.
Nobody really knew that McGrady would turn into a superstar at that time.
I see, never thought that T-Mac was so raw back then.
Jaylen Brown for All-NBA

Re: How Many More Years Do We Give Ainge to Win a Championship?
« Reply #28 on: July 28, 2019, 08:10:28 AM »

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What's worse is the Celts traded Joe Johnson at the trade deadline that season.

Just like the Billups trade in 1998, Joe Johnson only played a few months for the Celts in 2001-02.

Imagine if the Celts kept Joe Johnson and drafted Tony Parker in 2001.

Chauncey trade hurt us more than Joe Johnson did because he won with the Pistons although Raptors also lost that trade because he didn't become a great contributor with them.

Joe Johnson was a redundant talent at that time and we have Paul Pierce and Antoine Walker who needed touches to be effective. Even if we drafted Parker, there is no guarantee he'll become a star he is like he was in San Antonio. Pop's system was a perfect fit for Parker to strive. I doubt he would develop as much under Jim O'brien. Pitino also had Bruce Bowen at one point too.
Looking back as a fan who didn't go through that era I'd agree, it'd be like trading Jaylen Brown for a fringe all star who wouldn't move the needle for us after a raw rookie season and have Jaylen to go on a tear starting from his sophomore season with increased usage and opportunity.
Jaylen Brown for All-NBA

Re: How Many More Years Do We Give Ainge to Win a Championship?
« Reply #29 on: July 28, 2019, 08:11:15 AM »

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This team right now, isnt going to win any titles in the upcoming years

You'll be surprised.

This current Celtics team will be better than last season's Celtics team.

One move and this current Celtics team will be a contender.