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Offline GreenlyGreeny

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How many more seasons do we give Ainge to win a championship? It has been almost a dozen years. 2? 3? 4? Another 11?

I, for one, am going to be sorely disappointed if we do not win a championship by 2022, particularly if the Lakers somehow win another. I think Ainge should be given three more years/seasons to win a championship before it’s time to move on. The Kyrie thing is not his fault. But if we continue to fail 3 more years, that would be one championship in how many seasons?

Re: How Many More Years Do We Give Ainge to Win a Championship?
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2019, 10:46:56 PM »

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2 years.

After then, if it doesn't look like we're any closer to a title than we are now, I give up on Ainge and the entire front office.
I'll still love the Celts, but will deeply dislike it's front office and ownership and won't invest any more money in the team, such as  tickets, merch and my Comcast subscription which includes an expensive monthly bill.

I'm not wasting another 5 years of my time waiting on a title that may never come.

And that's what probably hurts the most about this past season. Though I didn't expect a title, last season should've been a prelude to a championship this upcoming season with Kyrie, Brown, Hayward, Horford and Davis (and sadly, it all blew up in our face.)

But, let's take it one day at a time, one season at a time.
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There are still 11 teams without an NBA championship.

Fans from other NBA teams are just hoping to get one championship, like Toronto.

Celtic fans are just entitled.

Winning a championship in American Pro Sports is very hard to do.

Just look at America's team, the Dallas Cowboys, their last Super Bowl win was back in 1996.
It's been 23 years now and the Cowboys still haven't returned to the Super Bowl.

Re: How Many More Years Do We Give Ainge to Win a Championship?
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2019, 10:59:49 PM »

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Danny will be running this team until he steps aside due to health reasons. Hopefully he wins a couple more titles or more, but even if he leaves before getting a title, Ainge will still end up retiring as a Hall of Fame contributor off the court. In Danny I trust.

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Danny will be running this team until he steps aside due to health reasons. Hopefully he wins a couple more titles or more, but even if he leaves before getting a title, Ainge will still end up retiring as a Hall of Fame contributor off the court. In Danny I trust.

Agree.

Danny ended the title drought for Boston when he got KG and Ray.

The Celts also have made multiple east finals appearances during Ainge's time.

Danny is doing a great job.

It's just unfortunate that Anthony Davis didn't want to come to Boston this summer.

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I disagree with the position that malcontent was not Ainge's fault. Whose fault was it then? We cannot start having decision makers without responsibility. Celtics paid a handsome price for that malcontent. Did he do his due diligence? Gave up some nice players, the face of the franchise (and a lot of good will) for that malcontent. Perhaps he should have done some due diligence before handing the keys of the franchise to a wired flat-earther. Who do we blame? Nobody? Someone has to take responsibility for that colossal failure. They spent good assets for that guy.

Now if you say Hayward was not Ainge's fault, I agree with that because that was an injury. The malcontent however could have been avoided. His attitude, his injury history, etc etc.

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Danny will be running this team until he steps aside due to health reasons. Hopefully he wins a couple more titles or more, but even if he leaves before getting a title, Ainge will still end up retiring as a Hall of Fame contributor off the court. In Danny I trust.

Agree.

Danny ended the title drought for Boston when he got KG and Ray.

The Celts also have made multiple east finals appearances during Ainge's time.

Danny is doing a great job.

It's just unfortunate that Anthony Davis didn't want to come to Boston this summer.

I disagreed with the pursuit of Davis. Just do not buy that he would have moved the needle that mush especially not after selling the farm to get him.

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Re: How Many More Years Do We Give Ainge to Win a Championship?
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2019, 11:10:35 PM »

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I disagree with the position that malcontent was not Ainge's fault. Whose fault was it then? We cannot start having decision makers without responsibility. Celtics paid a handsome price for that malcontent. Did he do his due diligence? Gave up some nice players, the face of the franchise (and a lot of good will) for that malcontent. Perhaps he should have done some due diligence before handing the keys of the franchise to a wired flat-earther. Who do we blame? Nobody? Someone has to take responsibility for that colossal failure. They spent good assets for that guy.

Now if you say Hayward was not Ainge's fault, I agree with that because that was an injury. The malcontent however could have been avoided. His attitude, his injury history, etc etc.

Here's the thing, if Isaiah Thomas didn't suffer a serious injury, it was unlikely the Celts would trade for Kyrie.

What Ainge did was trade a player, who's damaged goods, for a star player.
It cost the Celts the #8 pick in 2018, but basically it was IT for Kyrie.
That was a good deal for the Celts.
It's just unfortunate that Kyrie didn't fit Boston.

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I disagree with the position that malcontent was not Ainge's fault. Whose fault was it then? We cannot start having decision makers without responsibility. Celtics paid a handsome price for that malcontent. Did he do his due diligence? Gave up some nice players, the face of the franchise (and a lot of good will) for that malcontent. Perhaps he should have done some due diligence before handing the keys of the franchise to a wired flat-earther. Who do we blame? Nobody? Someone has to take responsibility for that colossal failure. They spent good assets for that guy.

Now if you say Hayward was not Ainge's fault, I agree with that because that was an injury. The malcontent however could have been avoided. His attitude, his injury history, etc etc.

Here's the thing, if Isaiah Thomas didn't suffer a serious injury, it was unlikely the Celts would trade for Kyrie.

What Ainge did was trade a player, who's damaged goods, for a star player.
It cost the Celts the #8 pick in 2018, but basically it was IT for Kyrie.
That was a good deal for the Celts.
It's just unfortunate that Kyrie didn't fit Boston.

look at it this way, the player you traded IT for also had injury issues of his own. He needed surgery which he ended up having, and missed the entire playoff run, which had an impact on the remainder of his tenure with the team. So you could argue that it was one damaged player for another.

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« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2019, 11:55:35 PM »

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I disagree with the position that malcontent was not Ainge's fault. Whose fault was it then? We cannot start having decision makers without responsibility. Celtics paid a handsome price for that malcontent. Did he do his due diligence? Gave up some nice players, the face of the franchise (and a lot of good will) for that malcontent. Perhaps he should have done some due diligence before handing the keys of the franchise to a wired flat-earther. Who do we blame? Nobody? Someone has to take responsibility for that colossal failure. They spent good assets for that guy.

Now if you say Hayward was not Ainge's fault, I agree with that because that was an injury. The malcontent however could have been avoided. His attitude, his injury history, etc etc.

Here's the thing, if Isaiah Thomas didn't suffer a serious injury, it was unlikely the Celts would trade for Kyrie.

What Ainge did was trade a player, who's damaged goods, for a star player.
It cost the Celts the #8 pick in 2018, but basically it was IT for Kyrie.
That was a good deal for the Celts.
It's just unfortunate that Kyrie didn't fit Boston.

look at it this way, the player you traded IT for also had injury issues of his own. He needed surgery which he ended up having, and missed the entire playoff run, which had an impact on the remainder of his tenure with the team. So you could argue that it was one damaged player for another.

Maybe, but at that time, Kyrie didn't need the surgery.
It was more of a corrective procedure that was not urgent.

Ainge is not perfect.

Even the Spurs, as great as their front office is, lost Kawhi.

I think the NBA system is working.
It's bad for business if the only teams winning championships are the Celtics and Lakers.

Us Celtic fans just have to be patient for our time to come.

Last summer I wasn't as excited about the Celts because I knew even if the Celts made it to the Finals, the Celts would not be able to beat GSW with the addition of Cousins.

This season is a different story.
Nobody knows who will be in the Finals in 2020 because of so many player movements.
Celts have a golden opportunity because the expectations for this year's Celts team is lower compared to that of last season.

One move could turn the Celts into a contender this 2019-20 season.

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« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2019, 12:39:27 AM »

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Re: How Many More Years Do We Give Ainge to Win a Championship?
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How I Miss the days of Pitino and Carr...maybe we can steal away the Knicks or Suns or Kings GM...They are always fielding competitive teams 😐

Danny can stay as long as he wants. He is a tireless worker and I hope his health holds up. Things can be much worse...remember the 90’s.

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How I Miss the days of Pitino and Carr...maybe we can steal away the Knicks or Suns or Kings GM...They are always fielding competitive teams 😐

Danny can stay as long as he wants. He is a tireless worker and I hope his health holds up. Things can be much worse...remember the 90’s.

True.

The 1990s was absolutely horrible for Celtic fans.

There was no direction.

All the front office cared about making the playoffs even when it had no chance of advancing beyond the 1st round.

The only good thing that happened to the Celts in the 1990s was the drafting of Paul Pierce.

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How I Miss the days of Pitino and Carr...maybe we can steal away the Knicks or Suns or Kings GM...They are always fielding competitive teams 😐

Danny can stay as long as he wants. He is a tireless worker and I hope his health holds up. Things can be much worse...remember the 90’s.

True.

The 1990s was absolutely horrible for Celtic fans.

There was no direction.

All the front office cared about making the playoffs even when it had no chance of advancing beyond the 1st round.

The only good thing that happened to the Celts in the 1990s was the drafting of Paul Pierce.
What about Chauncey? Sure he got traded, but that was more about Pitino Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.ing up than the draft pick being bad.
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