2019 Summer Rumors official thread

[Roy H.]

Well who do we pivot to now?

Hopefully we can still get one of Brooklyn or Philly to play ball and do the sign and trade to get us the full MLE.

But I’m excited to throw some big minutes at Timelord and see what he’s got.

Get this dark feeling we're going to sign Boogie, lol,

I think Boogie will be back with Golden State.

I'd take him here, although I don't know if Stevens would.

[gouki88]

Guess all the chatter of Kyrie being in Durants ear was legit. Now I actually believe he quit on us. Dead to me forever. Probably texting KD after games saying Brooklyn time.

Durant is worth the gamble but what if he never returns to full strength? Big gamble with big rewards but also could be a crippling deal. He needs 3 years of finals visits to make 168m worthwhile gamble..that is a contract for 56m an active season. Wall deal looked great too when it happened.

That John Wall deal never looked great.

Yeah, that John Wall deal was never anything more than bad. He's had 3 seasons with under 50 regular season games played. Can't imagine his durability getting better after such a massive injury, plus he's very reliant on his athleticism. Yuck

[celticsclay]

Per Woj:

Five-time All-Star F/C Al Horford has agreed to a four-year, $109M deal with the Philadelphia 76ers, agent Jason Glushon tells ESPN.

Well F...  Looks like Danny didn’t want to pay that much for him. Can’t really blame him.

That’s a pretty awkward fit, if you ask me. Simmons, Richardson, Harris, Al, and Embiid is big but not too much shooting, and Al simply isn’t going to be able to guard fours out on the perimeter full-time anymore.

Who's going to guard Al and Embiid though? That's almost as good as a Big Al and AD frontcourt.

They will get killed by a small ball lineup. Al is just not that quick to play at the 4 anymore and Embiid is  too slow to defend the pnr.

Yeah, they’re big, but they’re going to get killed by small lineups. Al simply is not a full-time four. You could see that he was starting to slip in speed and lateral movement this year, and that was him primarily at the five. What’s more, at the five his three point shot was the key, but it’s average or less than average as a full-time four in today’s NBA, especially with his dip in shooting last year.

The fit is just really, really suspect to me. And that’s going to be a lot of money for Al in a few years.

I’m really bummed by him leaving but this is how I see it too. I don’t really see how those two play major minutes together

Yeah, if anything I think better load management of both Embiid and Al and being able to play Al at the 5 when Embiid sits are the best parts of this signing.

For the first time in his career it’s likely that Al won’t be out on the court late in games against most teams. They’re going to find out quick that he simply can’t guard the four full-time in today’s NBA.

This could be, but 109 million for that is mind blowing

[RJ87]

Per Woj:

Five-time All-Star F/C Al Horford has agreed to a four-year, $109M deal with the Philadelphia 76ers, agent Jason Glushon tells ESPN.

Well F...  Looks like Danny didn’t want to pay that much for him. Can’t really blame him.

That’s a pretty awkward fit, if you ask me. Simmons, Richardson, Harris, Al, and Embiid is big but not too much shooting, and Al simply isn’t going to be able to guard fours out on the perimeter full-time anymore.

Who's going to guard Al and Embiid though? That's almost as good as a Big Al and AD frontcourt.

They will get killed by a small ball lineup. Al is just not that quick to play at the 4 anymore and Embiid is  too slow to defend the pnr.

Yeah, they’re big, but they’re going to get killed by small lineups. Al simply is not a full-time four. You could see that he was starting to slip in speed and lateral movement this year, and that was him primarily at the five. What’s more, at the five his three point shot was the key, but it’s average or less than average as a full-time four in today’s NBA, especially with his dip in shooting last year.

The fit is just really, really suspect to me. And that’s going to be a lot of money for Al in a few years.

I’m really bummed by him leaving but this is how I see it too. I don’t really see how those two play major minutes together

I'm not sure why people are overreacting to fit. Yes, they'll start games together but I expect their minutes to be staggered. Given their injury concerns, it'll really help Philly manage minutes and keep them fresh while also ensuring there's no point in a game where one of them isn't on the floor.

[gouki88]

Well who do we pivot to now?

Hopefully we can still get one of Brooklyn or Philly to play ball and do the sign and trade to get us the full MLE.

But I’m excited to throw some big minutes at Timelord and see what he’s got.

Get this dark feeling we're going to sign Boogie, lol,

I think Boogie will be back with Golden State.

I'd take him here, although I don't know if Stevens would.

At this stage I think I would too. Lob him a 1 year deal where he'd have massive playing time guaranteed. Go hard or go home!

I agree about Brad. I think he's done with knuckleheads or potential knuckleheads

[CelticSooner]

Well who do we pivot to now?

Hopefully we can still get one of Brooklyn or Philly to play ball and do the sign and trade to get us the full MLE.

But I’m excited to throw some big minutes at Timelord and see what he’s got.

Get this dark feeling we're going to sign Boogie, lol,

I think Boogie will be back with Golden State.

I'd take him here, although I don't know if Stevens would.

Which is why it won't even be considered, and after what happened last year I don't blame them one bit.

[jpotter33]

Well who do we pivot to now?

Hopefully we can still get one of Brooklyn or Philly to play ball and do the sign and trade to get us the full MLE.

But I’m excited to throw some big minutes at Timelord and see what he’s got.

I think for the short term you try to get maybe Robin Lopez and then find if out if Yabu and Time Lord are going to be able to help moving forward.  You probably take more of a long term approach.

Then make a decision in January whether to stick with youth, look into the buyout market if the team looks like it can do anything in the playoffs - or try to improve the front line next summer.

I would seriously consider moving Smart for someone who can shoot because your chance against Philly & Milwaukee is to spread them out and hit 3's.  I'm not sure Smart is a great fit with they way the primary competition is going.

Eh, I’m fine with the long-term approach. I’d honestly be fine with starting Timelord this year and getting him as developed as possible. He’s our best long-term bet against guys like Embiid, abd his potential as a defensive anchor is sky high.

A lineup of Kemba, Brown, Tatum, Hayward, and Timelord has run-and-gun/Showtime written all over it. Would love us to significantly increase our pace next year and take advantage of the strengths of our team.

[rondofan1255]

The Mavericks have traded for Miami's Goran Dragic, multiple sources confirm. Dragic is the only other Slovenian in the league, and was roommates with Luka Doncic during Slovenia's 2017 EuroBasket run.

https://twitter.com/tim_cato/status/1145507410557243392

[RJ87]

Well who do we pivot to now?

Hopefully we can still get one of Brooklyn or Philly to play ball and do the sign and trade to get us the full MLE.

But I’m excited to throw some big minutes at Timelord and see what he’s got.

Get this dark feeling we're going to sign Boogie, lol,

I think Boogie will be back with Golden State.

I'd take him here, although I don't know if Stevens would.

At this stage I think I would too. Lob him a 1 year deal where he'd have massive playing time guaranteed. Go hard or go home!

I agree about Brad. I think he's done with knuckleheads or potential knuckleheads

I know everyone wants a warm & fuzzy team, but sometimes you have to gamble on talent. Brad is going to have to manage a knucklehead or two at some point. Given his shortcomings last season, I'd like to see him take on the challenge.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Man, the Dallas Mavericks are a Euro Shooting Guard away from fully being able to start an all European starting 5.

Goran Dragic - Luka Doncic - Maxi Kleber - Kristaps Prozingis.

Trade Tim Hardaway, Jr. for Mario Hezonja or something. LOL

[MichiganAdam]

have to run run run against the 76's now...use quickness to beat them

[RJ87]

have to run run run against the 76's now...use quickness to beat them

Idk. I think Philly is going to be one of the better defensive teams in the league. Richardson gives them someone that can finally defend PG's, Simmons has shown some good defensive development so I think he's going to become their go to defender for opposing teams' best wing player. Really, their only bad defender is Harris and they should be able to hide him.

[CelticSooner]

have to run run run against the 76's now...use quickness to beat them

Idk. I think Philly is going to be one of the better defensive teams in the league. Richardson gives them someone that can finally defend PG's, Simmons has shown some good defensive development so I think he's going to become their go to defender for opposing teams' best wing player. Really, their only bad defender is Harris and they should be able to hide him.

Philly kinda created the team the C's wanted minus Simmons not being able to shoot.

[jpotter33]

So you actually have to think that Brooklyn is now more likely to help us out knowing that we’re not going to be able to bring Horford back as a result of their assistance. Maybe a late first/early second will get them to fold now?

[CelticsElite]

Man, the Dallas Mavericks are a Euro Shooting Guard away from fully being able to start an all European starting 5.

Goran Dragic - Luka Doncic - Maxi Kleber - Kristaps Prozingis.

Trade Tim Hardaway, Jr. for Mario Hezonja or something. LOL

insane