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Re: 2019 Summer Rumors official thread
« Reply #975 on: June 30, 2019, 10:38:53 PM »

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New Orleans is closing in on an agreement with Derrick Favors, sources tell ESPN

NOOOOOOO  :'(
Man, that is actually a strong team, where the heck did that come from? New Orleans vs LAL in the first round? ;D

Seeing how upset Jazz fans are over having to lose Favors makes me bummed out, seems like a guy C's fans would have gotten around

So who is Boston's best bet at this point? Probably Kanter, sadly

Re: 2019 Summer Rumors official thread
« Reply #976 on: June 30, 2019, 10:39:29 PM »

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New Orleans is closing in on an agreement with Derrick Favors, sources tell ESPN

NOOOOOOO  :'(
Man, that is actually a strong team, where the heck did that come from? New Orleans vs LAL in the first round? ;D

Seeing how upset Jazz fans are over having to lose Favors makes me bummed out, seems like a guy C's fans would have gotten around

So who is Boston's best bet at this point? Probably Kanter, sadly
I would guess so? Maybe Noel, as JPotter points out. Kyle O'Quinn? I dunno
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Re: 2019 Summer Rumors official thread
« Reply #977 on: June 30, 2019, 10:39:47 PM »

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Five-time All-Star F/C Al Horford has agreed to a four-year, $109M deal with the Philadelphia 76ers, agent Jason Glushon tells ESPN.

Well F...  Looks like Danny didn’t want to pay that much for him. Can’t really blame him.

That’s a pretty awkward fit, if you ask me. Simmons, Richardson, Harris, Al, and Embiid is big but not too much shooting, and Al simply isn’t going to be able to guard fours out on the perimeter full-time anymore.

Who's going to guard Al and Embiid though? That's almost as good as a Big Al and AD frontcourt.

They will get killed by a small ball lineup. Al is just not that quick to play at the 4 anymore and Embiid is  too slow to defend the pnr.

Yeah, they’re big, but they’re going to get killed by small lineups. Al simply is not a full-time four. You could see that he was starting to slip in speed and lateral movement this year, and that was him primarily at the five. What’s more, at the five his three point shot was the key, but it’s average or less than average as a full-time four in today’s NBA, especially with his dip in shooting last year.

The fit is just really, really suspect to me. And that’s going to be a lot of money for Al in a few years.

I’m really bummed by him leaving but this is how I see it too. I don’t really see how those two play major minutes together

Yeah, if anything I think better load management of both Embiid and Al and being able to play Al at the 5 when Embiid sits are the best parts of this signing.

For the first time in his career it’s likely that Al won’t be out on the court late in games against most teams. They’re going to find out quick that he simply can’t guard the four full-time in today’s NBA.

This could be, but 109 million for that is mind blowing
Only 97M is guaranteed.  I think you both are underestimating Al and Embiid.  Al is going to spend half his time backing up Embiid but he'll be on the court with Embiid late in games.  If they'd have kept Butler instead of Harris, it would have been a homerun.  Losing Butler hurts their defense against wings and guards but more importantly he filled the go to scorer role.   Embiid can only do so much as a big.  Simmons and/or Harris are going to have to pickup some of the closer load. 

I haven't watched the Heat play in forever.  How good on D is Richardson?  I assume he's better than Redick.   

I’ll repeat 97 million guaranteed is insane for a 33 year old guy that didn’t make the all star game last year (and I really love him). I would be really troubled if they had kept butler instead of Harris and got al. Who is their closer now? Richardson is a better layer than reddick but probably worse for what the 76ers need, shooting. Richardson was 35% last year (And reddick I believe had a down year but was traditionally a lot better than that). Down one 20 seconds left who gets the last shot for Philly? Simmons and Horford really can’t create at all, and embiid seemed to do pretty bad In these situations when refs swallow their whistle.
So now you're just regurgitating what I've already said.  Harris can create for himself and run the pnr but don't know that he can carry the closer role.  One thing for certain is that they are a lot better off than 2 years ago when their starting lineup was Simmons, Redick, Covington, Saric and Embiid. 

Re: 2019 Summer Rumors official thread
« Reply #978 on: June 30, 2019, 10:39:54 PM »

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New Orleans is closing in on an agreement with Derrick Favors, sources tell ESPN

NOOOOOOO  :'(
Man, that is actually a strong team, where the heck did that come from? New Orleans vs LAL in the first round? ;D

Seeing how upset Jazz fans are over having to lose Favors makes me bummed out, seems like a guy C's fans would have gotten around

So who is Boston's best bet at this point? Probably Kanter, sadly

Noel. Can probably get him for the room exception too.
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Re: 2019 Summer Rumors official thread
« Reply #979 on: June 30, 2019, 10:41:20 PM »

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Five-time All-Star F/C Al Horford has agreed to a four-year, $109M deal with the Philadelphia 76ers, agent Jason Glushon tells ESPN.

Well F...  Looks like Danny didn’t want to pay that much for him. Can’t really blame him.

That’s a pretty awkward fit, if you ask me. Simmons, Richardson, Harris, Al, and Embiid is big but not too much shooting, and Al simply isn’t going to be able to guard fours out on the perimeter full-time anymore.

Who's going to guard Al and Embiid though? That's almost as good as a Big Al and AD frontcourt.

They will get killed by a small ball lineup. Al is just not that quick to play at the 4 anymore and Embiid is  too slow to defend the pnr.

Yeah, they’re big, but they’re going to get killed by small lineups. Al simply is not a full-time four. You could see that he was starting to slip in speed and lateral movement this year, and that was him primarily at the five. What’s more, at the five his three point shot was the key, but it’s average or less than average as a full-time four in today’s NBA, especially with his dip in shooting last year.

The fit is just really, really suspect to me. And that’s going to be a lot of money for Al in a few years.

I’m really bummed by him leaving but this is how I see it too. I don’t really see how those two play major minutes together

Yeah, if anything I think better load management of both Embiid and Al and being able to play Al at the 5 when Embiid sits are the best parts of this signing.

For the first time in his career it’s likely that Al won’t be out on the court late in games against most teams. They’re going to find out quick that he simply can’t guard the four full-time in today’s NBA.

This could be, but 109 million for that is mind blowing
Only 97M is guaranteed.  I think you both are underestimating Al and Embiid.  Al is going to spend half his time backing up Embiid but he'll be on the court with Embiid late in games.  If they'd have kept Butler instead of Harris, it would have been a homerun.  Losing Butler hurts their defense against wings and guards but more importantly he filled the go to scorer role.   Embiid can only do so much as a big.  Simmons and/or Harris are going to have to pickup some of the closer load. 

I haven't watched the Heat play in forever.  How good on D is Richardson?  I assume he's better than Redick.   

I’ll repeat 97 million guaranteed is insane for a 33 year old guy that didn’t make the all star game last year (and I really love him). I would be really troubled if they had kept butler instead of Harris and got al. Who is their closer now? Richardson is a better layer than reddick but probably worse for what the 76ers need, shooting. Richardson was 35% last year (And reddick I believe had a down year but was traditionally a lot better than that). Down one 20 seconds left who gets the last shot for Philly? Simmons and Horford really can’t create at all, and embiid seemed to do pretty bad In these situations when refs swallow their whistle.
So now you're just regurgitating what I've already said.  Harris can create for himself and run the pnr but don't know that he can carry the closer role.  One thing for certain is that they are a lot better off than 2 years ago when their starting lineup was Simmons, Redick, Covington, Saric and Embiid.
I think the only thing that's for certain is that Simmons will be way more exposed in the half-court with this new roster. Such little shooting
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Re: 2019 Summer Rumors official thread
« Reply #980 on: June 30, 2019, 10:41:51 PM »

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New Orleans is closing in on an agreement with Derrick Favors, sources tell ESPN

NOOOOOOO  :'(
Man, that is actually a strong team, where the heck did that come from? New Orleans vs LAL in the first round? ;D

Seeing how upset Jazz fans are over having to lose Favors makes me bummed out, seems like a guy C's fans would have gotten around

So who is Boston's best bet at this point? Probably Kanter, sadly

Mle level player would be bryant imo. Backloaded contract

Re: 2019 Summer Rumors official thread
« Reply #981 on: June 30, 2019, 10:42:10 PM »

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Re: 2019 Summer Rumors official thread
« Reply #982 on: June 30, 2019, 10:42:25 PM »

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New Orleans is closing in on an agreement with Derrick Favors, sources tell ESPN

NOOOOOOO  :'(
Amazing what happens when you get a good GM or whatever Griffin's title is.  They're going to be a fun team to watch develop and try to make the playoff this season. 

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« Reply #983 on: June 30, 2019, 10:42:35 PM »

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Re: 2019 Summer Rumors official thread
« Reply #984 on: June 30, 2019, 10:43:19 PM »

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New Orleans is closing in on an agreement with Derrick Favors, sources tell ESPN

NOOOOOOO  :'(
Man, that is actually a strong team, where the heck did that come from? New Orleans vs LAL in the first round? ;D

Seeing how upset Jazz fans are over having to lose Favors makes me bummed out, seems like a guy C's fans would have gotten around

So who is Boston's best bet at this point? Probably Kanter, sadly

Mle level player would be bryant imo. Backloaded contract
Bryant already re-signed with the Wiz. 

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« Reply #985 on: June 30, 2019, 10:43:47 PM »

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New Orleans is closing in on an agreement with Derrick Favors, sources tell ESPN

NOOOOOOO  :'(
Amazing what happens when you get a good GM or whatever Griffin's title is.  They're going to be a fun team to watch develop and try to make the playoff this season.

I will fully cheer for this team if they curbstomp the Lakers ;D

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« Reply #986 on: June 30, 2019, 10:44:36 PM »

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New Orleans is closing in on an agreement with Derrick Favors, sources tell ESPN

NOOOOOOO  :'(
Amazing what happens when you get a good GM or whatever Griffin's title is.  They're going to be a fun team to watch develop and try to make the playoff this season.

I will fully cheer for this team if they curbstomp the Lakers ;D

That would be amazing on like 14 levels!! 

Re: 2019 Summer Rumors official thread
« Reply #987 on: June 30, 2019, 10:45:27 PM »

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without bigs Celtics will be destroyed totally if they were to make a 7-8 seed .

Best just get rid of Gordon asap and tank for some good players

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« Reply #988 on: June 30, 2019, 10:45:43 PM »

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Five-time All-Star F/C Al Horford has agreed to a four-year, $109M deal with the Philadelphia 76ers, agent Jason Glushon tells ESPN.

Well F...  Looks like Danny didn’t want to pay that much for him. Can’t really blame him.

That’s a pretty awkward fit, if you ask me. Simmons, Richardson, Harris, Al, and Embiid is big but not too much shooting, and Al simply isn’t going to be able to guard fours out on the perimeter full-time anymore.

Who's going to guard Al and Embiid though? That's almost as good as a Big Al and AD frontcourt.

They will get killed by a small ball lineup. Al is just not that quick to play at the 4 anymore and Embiid is  too slow to defend the pnr.

Yeah, they’re big, but they’re going to get killed by small lineups. Al simply is not a full-time four. You could see that he was starting to slip in speed and lateral movement this year, and that was him primarily at the five. What’s more, at the five his three point shot was the key, but it’s average or less than average as a full-time four in today’s NBA, especially with his dip in shooting last year.

The fit is just really, really suspect to me. And that’s going to be a lot of money for Al in a few years.

I’m really bummed by him leaving but this is how I see it too. I don’t really see how those two play major minutes together

Yeah, if anything I think better load management of both Embiid and Al and being able to play Al at the 5 when Embiid sits are the best parts of this signing.

For the first time in his career it’s likely that Al won’t be out on the court late in games against most teams. They’re going to find out quick that he simply can’t guard the four full-time in today’s NBA.

This could be, but 109 million for that is mind blowing
Only 97M is guaranteed.  I think you both are underestimating Al and Embiid.  Al is going to spend half his time backing up Embiid but he'll be on the court with Embiid late in games.  If they'd have kept Butler instead of Harris, it would have been a homerun.  Losing Butler hurts their defense against wings and guards but more importantly he filled the go to scorer role.   Embiid can only do so much as a big.  Simmons and/or Harris are going to have to pickup some of the closer load. 

I haven't watched the Heat play in forever.  How good on D is Richardson?  I assume he's better than Redick.   

I’ll repeat 97 million guaranteed is insane for a 33 year old guy that didn’t make the all star game last year (and I really love him). I would be really troubled if they had kept butler instead of Harris and got al. Who is their closer now? Richardson is a better layer than reddick but probably worse for what the 76ers need, shooting. Richardson was 35% last year (And reddick I believe had a down year but was traditionally a lot better than that). Down one 20 seconds left who gets the last shot for Philly? Simmons and Horford really can’t create at all, and embiid seemed to do pretty bad In these situations when refs swallow their whistle.
So now you're just regurgitating what I've already said.  Harris can create for himself and run the pnr but don't know that he can carry the closer role.  One thing for certain is that they are a lot better off than 2 years ago when their starting lineup was Simmons, Redick, Covington, Saric and Embiid.
I think the only thing that's for certain is that Simmons will be way more exposed in the half-court with this new roster. Such little shooting

Yeah I am on the same page with you on all this. Love al, but the loss of reddick and butler will really hurt

Re: 2019 Summer Rumors official thread
« Reply #989 on: June 30, 2019, 10:46:05 PM »

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