Romeo Langford(merged threads)

[rollie mass]

Imagine if the Celtics got Evan Turner instead of Philly .After we drafted Romeo watched all his tapes and loved the pick for his upside, after falling with a season hindered by thumb ligament damage.
He has a fluidity matched with a wingspan that allows him to contort and play through contact.
He probably needs a year in weight room not to get jacked but to develop man strength Imagine how much his early career has been sabotaged with ligament damage to thumb and then rehab.
He moves his feet well, fights over screens and chases down opponents with his length also using this for offensive rebounds ,anchors the corner three and relocates well looking for passing angle.
 His father taught him to be stoic-don't confuse that with passivity or fear.

Was he being showcased or was it the case of him showcasing his future talent to Brad.
It was his defence that kept him playing long enough to get some touches .His talent got him to hoop in control and his offensive rebounds showed off length and 2nd effort toughness.
Danny has hit with Marcus,Brown ,Tatum,Rozier and it looks like Romeo has true size and length for his position.
Grant Williams  plays basketball heady as Tommy says he owns his space. It shows with his screens ,walling off players and offensive rebounding.

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[JBcat]

If Romeo turns out to be anything it’s a bonus as he was the future pick in the Fultz for Tatum trade.  What a trade that was.  A heist.   Romeo seems like such a smooth athlete, but doesn’t rely on elite athleticism so his game should age well if he reaches his potential.

[Fierce1]

It was reported the Celts were trying to trade up to #4 to pick Darius Garland.
https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/celtics/nba-rumors-celtics-eyeing-trade-no-4-pick-take-darius-garland

After the Celts couldn't land the #4 pick, they wanted Tyler Herro.

When Herro wasn't available, the Celts just drafted the player they think is the best that's available.

The Celts were also in the hunt for Anthony Davis at that time.

Drafting Romeo was really weird because the Celts have lots of wing players.

Maybe Romeo was to be a part of that Anthony Davis trade to Boston that never happened.

And if it's true that the Celts are unwilling to part with any of the core 5, it could be Romeo that would end up as trade bait.

[Chief]

He looked pretty good last night.

Unfortunately,  Tatum doesn't appear to like to pass him the ball.

[Somebody]

He looked pretty good last night.

Unfortunately,  Tatum doesn't appear to like to pass him the ball.

Tatum doesn't appear to be able to pass the ball in general

[JBcat]

It was reported the Celts were trying to trade up to #4 to pick Darius Garland.
https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/celtics/nba-rumors-celtics-eyeing-trade-no-4-pick-take-darius-garland

After the Celts couldn't land the #4 pick, they wanted Tyler Herro.

When Herro wasn't available, the Celts just drafted the player they think is the best that's available.

The Celts were also in the hunt for Anthony Davis at that time.

Drafting Romeo was really weird because the Celts have lots of wing players.

Maybe Romeo was to be a part of that Anthony Davis trade to Boston that never happened.

And if it's true that the Celts are unwilling to part with any of the core 5, it could be Romeo that would end up as trade bait.

We play a lot of 3 wing lineups, maybe sometimes 4 with Smart and everyone is healthy.  If Romeo ends up being good enough where we now have a core 6 (maybe more) Brad will make it work. 

[Surferdad]

If Romeo turns out to be anything it’s a bonus as he was the future pick in the Fultz for Tatum trade.  What a trade that was.  A heist.   Romeo seems like such a smooth athlete, but doesn’t rely on elite athleticism so his game should age well if he reaches his potential.

If he turns out to be as good a Fultz (not impossible), then that means we got Tatum for free.       

[Fafnir]

Romeo is definitely one of the more tradeable pieces on the roster.

I don't think they'll be eager to move him just because young rookie contract guys are very important when you have a capped out roster. Is there a move that justifies losing that cheap potential? I'm skeptical this year as a journeyman big man or scoring wing who doesn't make a ton doesn't strike me as changing this team's potential to upset the Bucks.

[Fafnir]

From what I’ve seen of Romeo, he’s clearly has an nba body and is an nba athlete.  Looks every bit like a lottery pick.

Yeah he was impressive last night after two meh first games against the Mavs and Pistons. He looked really nervous against Dallas and got pulled after playing tentative defense, glad he responded with two more solid efforts.

Definitely is a NBA player athletically, now it comes down to how does his handle/shot/playmaking translate.

[nickagneta]

Romeo is definitely one of the more tradeable pieces on the roster.

I don't think they'll be eager to move him just because young rookie contract guys are very important when you have a capped out roster. Is there a move that justifies losing that cheap potential? I'm skeptical this year as a journeyman big man or scoring wing who doesn't make a ton doesn't strike me as changing this team's potential to upset the Bucks.

I agree with this.

While I know there are theories that Romeo was only drafted to replace a Celtic player, I don't buy that. I think he was drafted because Ainge thought him the best player available.

And while I get he is a good candidate to be shipped for an asset at a different position, like you, faf, I don't see that happening soon because Ainge needs lots of cost controlled guys because he is going to have potentially 4 guys making max or near max money in the future.

For that reason, I don't think Romeo is being showcased. I think he is just being developed. It makes sense he is playing with two rotational guys like Smart and Hayward hurt and Wanamaker nursing some sore lower body parts.

Langford could be a Hayward replacement if he signs elsewhere. Or a Smart, Tatum or Brown replacement if they are traded. Or Langford could be traded for someone. But I don't see any of that happening this year.

This year you develop him. You will increase his value that way. You see what you have. You see what Hayward's future here is as come the deadline it could become clear Hayward will be opting out, so maybe he needs to be traded. Then make definitive decisions after all that.

In other words, keep things fluid, with all possibilities there and in the meantime you let Stevens turn the kid into a top notch player by developing him this year.

[smokeablount]

I’m not sure that Romeo would’ve been my pick at #14 but I liked the pick the same way I liked the Gerald Green and Avery Bradley picks. If you can essentially pick outside the lottery but get a top 5 HS player as a college freshman (who underperformed but didn’t bust) or HS Senior, I think that’s a fine gamble to take. And with Romeo, he wasn’t undersized like AB or effectively unknown like GG.

The last 2 games he’s looked good out there. You guys have all pointed out why. And I agree with whoever suggested he get minutes over Edwards. Totally. He’s played actual minutes of value in like 4 games, and it seems to me he already has as many “good games” as Edwards has all year. And yeah, Edwards does nothing when his shot isn’t falling, and he’s a 2nd round pick. I’d go with the lottery pick that’s done more with less personally, but then again I’m not a coach.

[footey]

Romeo is definitely one of the more tradeable pieces on the roster.

I don't think they'll be eager to move him just because young rookie contract guys are very important when you have a capped out roster. Is there a move that justifies losing that cheap potential? I'm skeptical this year as a journeyman big man or scoring wing who doesn't make a ton doesn't strike me as changing this team's potential to upset the Bucks.

I agree with this.

While I know there are theories that Romeo was only drafted to replace a Celtic player, I don't buy that. I think he was drafted because Ainge thought him the best player available.

And while I get he is a good candidate to be shipped for an asset at a different position, like you, faf, I don't see that happening soon because Ainge needs lots of cost controlled guys because he is going to have potentially 4 guys making max or near max money in the future.

For that reason, I don't think Romeo is being showcased. I think he is just being developed. It makes sense he is playing with two rotational guys like Smart and Hayward hurt and Wanamaker nursing some sore lower body parts.

Langford could be a Hayward replacement if he signs elsewhere. Or a Smart, Tatum or Brown replacement if they are traded. Or Langford could be traded for someone. But I don't see any of that happening this year.

This year you develop him. You will increase his value that way. You see what you have. You see what Hayward's future here is as come the deadline it could become clear Hayward will be opting out, so maybe he needs to be traded. Then make definitive decisions after all that.

In other words, keep things fluid, with all possibilities there and in the meantime you let Stevens turn the kid into a top notch player by developing him this year.

Agree. He was much more tradeable by amateur GMs on this Board (including me!) until the last 2 games, when he showed his talent and upside. 

Things change fast.

[JBcat]

Romeo is definitely one of the more tradeable pieces on the roster.

I don't think they'll be eager to move him just because young rookie contract guys are very important when you have a capped out roster. Is there a move that justifies losing that cheap potential? I'm skeptical this year as a journeyman big man or scoring wing who doesn't make a ton doesn't strike me as changing this team's potential to upset the Bucks.

I agree with this.

While I know there are theories that Romeo was only drafted to replace a Celtic player, I don't buy that. I think he was drafted because Ainge thought him the best player available.

And while I get he is a good candidate to be shipped for an asset at a different position, like you, faf, I don't see that happening soon because Ainge needs lots of cost controlled guys because he is going to have potentially 4 guys making max or near max money in the future.

For that reason, I don't think Romeo is being showcased. I think he is just being developed. It makes sense he is playing with two rotational guys like Smart and Hayward hurt and Wanamaker nursing some sore lower body parts.

Langford could be a Hayward replacement if he signs elsewhere. Or a Smart, Tatum or Brown replacement if they are traded. Or Langford could be traded for someone. But I don't see any of that happening this year.

This year you develop him. You will increase his value that way. You see what you have. You see what Hayward's future here is as come the deadline it could become clear Hayward will be opting out, so maybe he needs to be traded. Then make definitive decisions after all that.

In other words, keep things fluid, with all possibilities there and in the meantime you let Stevens turn the kid into a top notch player by developing him this year.

Lets say Romeo really develops into a very good player, and you want to keep the core intact.

Going forward in the next couple years the minutes distribution could look something  like this.

Walker PG 32 Smart 16
Brown SG 32 Smart 16
Hayward SF 32 Langford 16
Tatum PF 32 G Williams 16
C by committee

As this seasons shows there are always injuries so I could see Langford easily getting 15 to 20 minutes a game to get his feet wet in the NBA for the first couple years.  He just needs to beat out Semi, Wanamaker, Edwards, and J Green for minutes, and those guys would only be getting spot minutes.

You could revisit trade possibilities after his first couple years if it looks like he might reach his full potential.  By then Hayward will be close to exiting his prime, and Walker only 2 years left of his contract so it just might be a natural fit to give him more minutes then.

[NKY fan]

Romeo is definitely one of the more tradeable pieces on the roster.

I don't think they'll be eager to move him just because young rookie contract guys are very important when you have a capped out roster. Is there a move that justifies losing that cheap potential? I'm skeptical this year as a journeyman big man or scoring wing who doesn't make a ton doesn't strike me as changing this team's potential to upset the Bucks.

I agree with this.

While I know there are theories that Romeo was only drafted to replace a Celtic player, I don't buy that. I think he was drafted because Ainge thought him the best player available.

And while I get he is a good candidate to be shipped for an asset at a different position, like you, faf, I don't see that happening soon because Ainge needs lots of cost controlled guys because he is going to have potentially 4 guys making max or near max money in the future.

For that reason, I don't think Romeo is being showcased. I think he is just being developed. It makes sense he is playing with two rotational guys like Smart and Hayward hurt and Wanamaker nursing some sore lower body parts.

Langford could be a Hayward replacement if he signs elsewhere. Or a Smart, Tatum or Brown replacement if they are traded. Or Langford could be traded for someone. But I don't see any of that happening this year.

This year you develop him. You will increase his value that way. You see what you have. You see what Hayward's future here is as come the deadline it could become clear Hayward will be opting out, so maybe he needs to be traded. Then make definitive decisions after all that.

In other words, keep things fluid, with all possibilities there and in the meantime you let Stevens turn the kid into a top notch player by developing him this year.

Lets say Romeo really develops into a very good player, and you want to keep the core intact.

Going forward in the next couple years the minutes distribution could look something  like this.

Walker PG 32 Smart 16
Brown SG 32 Smart 16
Hayward SF 32 Langford 16
Tatum PF 32 G Williams 16
C by committee

As this seasons shows there are always injuries so I could see Langford easily getting 15 to 20 minutes a game to get his feet wet in the NBA for the first couple years.  He just needs to beat out Semi, Wanamaker, Edwards, and J Green for minutes, and those guys would only be getting spot minutes.

You could revisit trade possibilities after his first couple years if it looks like he might reach his full potential.  By then Hayward will be close to exiting his prime, and Walker only 2 years left of his contract so it just might be a natural fit to give him more minutes then.

Hayward is probably gone if a team offers him 3 or 4 year max $129-175M.
he will be stupid to turn that down even if it’s Atlanta or Memphis offering it.
Let’s hope Langford develops. We will probably have a better idea in the next 25 games as the schedule is very favorable

[liam]

Romeo is definitely one of the more tradeable pieces on the roster.

I don't think they'll be eager to move him just because young rookie contract guys are very important when you have a capped out roster. Is there a move that justifies losing that cheap potential? I'm skeptical this year as a journeyman big man or scoring wing who doesn't make a ton doesn't strike me as changing this team's potential to upset the Bucks.

I agree with this.

While I know there are theories that Romeo was only drafted to replace a Celtic player, I don't buy that. I think he was drafted because Ainge thought him the best player available.

And while I get he is a good candidate to be shipped for an asset at a different position, like you, faf, I don't see that happening soon because Ainge needs lots of cost controlled guys because he is going to have potentially 4 guys making max or near max money in the future.

For that reason, I don't think Romeo is being showcased. I think he is just being developed. It makes sense he is playing with two rotational guys like Smart and Hayward hurt and Wanamaker nursing some sore lower body parts.

Langford could be a Hayward replacement if he signs elsewhere. Or a Smart, Tatum or Brown replacement if they are traded. Or Langford could be traded for someone. But I don't see any of that happening this year.

This year you develop him. You will increase his value that way. You see what you have. You see what Hayward's future here is as come the deadline it could become clear Hayward will be opting out, so maybe he needs to be traded. Then make definitive decisions after all that.

In other words, keep things fluid, with all possibilities there and in the meantime you let Stevens turn the kid into a top notch player by developing him this year.

Lets say Romeo really develops into a very good player, and you want to keep the core intact.

Going forward in the next couple years the minutes distribution could look something  like this.

Walker PG 32 Smart 16
Brown SG 32 Smart 16
Hayward SF 32 Langford 16
Tatum PF 32 G Williams 16
C by committee

As this seasons shows there are always injuries so I could see Langford easily getting 15 to 20 minutes a game to get his feet wet in the NBA for the first couple years.  He just needs to beat out Semi, Wanamaker, Edwards, and J Green for minutes, and those guys would only be getting spot minutes.

You could revisit trade possibilities after his first couple years if it looks like he might reach his full potential.  By then Hayward will be close to exiting his prime, and Walker only 2 years left of his contract so it just might be a natural fit to give him more minutes then.

Hayward is probably gone if a team offers him 3 or 4 year max $129-175M.
he will be stupid to turn that down even if it’s Atlanta or Memphis offering it.
Let’s hope Langford develops. We will probably have a better idea in the next 25 games as the schedule is very favorable

Hayward might be willing to give the hometown discount seeing as he's already made a ton of money and played very little so far.