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What is your assessment of KAT as a trade target?

Best young big in the game. Aside from his skill level, KAT's iron man health streak make him the most valuable young asset in the league. Already top 5-15 player just needs a good team to showcase his capability. Should be number 1 target for C's.
9 (18.4%)
Top Anthony Davis consolation prize. Elite player that has not been able to fully show his capabilities playing in Minny. Second only to AD in star power for attainable players. Would thrive under Stevens and playing next to Horford.
14 (28.6%)
Great player who might not be the best guy to build around. Incredibly talented but may lack the drive and athleticism to make a team a championship contender. Would be excited if we traded for him but it is a significant step down from AD.
9 (18.4%)
Like him but don't might not be worth the assets that it would take to get him. Good scorer who hasn't shown the ability to take it too the next level. Not a malcontent but attitude issues could be a poor fit for C's. Acceptable but not ideal
9 (18.4%)
Think he's a Good player but I don't want him in Boston. Definitely not worth losing Tatum and/or Brown + assets. In a vacuum best player in the deal but has too many red flags to make me pull the trigger. Pass
5 (10.2%)
Bad player who is bound to be an overpaid bottom feeder his whole career. Can't play defense. Bad team mate. Doesn't care about winning. Limited athleticism. Wouldn't even sign him let alone give up assets.
3 (6.1%)

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Offline gouki88

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I think Towns can become a player capable of being the best player on a Title winning team. And if he doesn't, who cares! He is still awesome and puts Boston closer to winning a title than they are today.
Where's the evidence of that?  KAT can't even get Minny to the playoffs.  It was Butler who got them to the playoffs the previous season.
Because KAT's nightly double double did nothing to help their playoff run at all. Nor did KAT upping his game when Butler missed a big 16 game chunk near the end of the season. ::)
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Zero interest. Seems mentally weak. No way he'd be worth the assets it'd cost to trade for him.

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Zero interest. Seems mentally weak. No way he'd be worth the assets it'd cost to trade for him.

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Towns is a really good player on a really bad team.

On a good team he'd be an excellent contributor.

The only way he's going to be traded is if he demands a trade. Otherwise, there isn't much point in losing sleep over this idea.

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He isn't available and probably cost more than Davis

At first glance, it may seem this way, but I think a similar package - Tatum/Smart - is what it would take to get a deal done. As with the Pelicans, I think Minny would really appreciate a 'culture changer' like Smart. I think he is extremely underrated in these talks with young teams looking to rebuild.

I went with option #2, but KAT's contract situation is infinitely more desirable than AD's. I do agree with others that it would take some inkling of interest for Minny to want to trade him.

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I love Towns, but he almost certainly isn't available and to get him would probably cost too much and not be worth it. 

Just for fun, this is the trade I came up with, which is probably somewhat realistic and reasonable.

Towns, Dieng

for

Hayward, Tatum, 14, Mem, Bos 19

That would leave Boston (you do this obviously only if Irving comes back)

Irving, Smart, Brown, Towns, Horford, Morris, Baynes, Dieng, Williams, Theis, 20, 22

By taking on Dieng you keep Brown and an extra 1st

I think that is a better team than what we would have without the trade, so I'd be ok with that.  As I said, I don't think Towns is even available and if so you only do that if it means Irving stays.
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There is more chance of a defensive player improving his overall game than the other way around.

Not trading Brown or Tatum for another unproven player. I still remember people harping over Boogie and he's nothing more than a bench player now for the Warriors.

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There is more chance of a defensive player improving his overall game than the other way around.

Not trading Brown or Tatum for another unproven player. I still remember people harping over Boogie and he's nothing more than a bench player now for the Warriors.
Bit ridiculous when you're talking about a 270-280lb guy who tore his achilles tendon and comparing him to an ever-healthy guy who has only played 4 years in the league and has been a double double machine every season.
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I love Towns, but he almost certainly isn't available and to get him would probably cost too much and not be worth it. 

Just for fun, this is the trade I came up with, which is probably somewhat realistic and reasonable.

Towns, Dieng

for

Hayward, Tatum, 14, Mem, Bos 19

That would leave Boston (you do this obviously only if Irving comes back)

Irving, Smart, Brown, Towns, Horford, Morris, Baynes, Dieng, Williams, Theis, 20, 22

By taking on Dieng you keep Brown and an extra 1st

I think that is a better team than what we would have without the trade, so I'd be ok with that.  As I said, I don't think Towns is even available and if so you only do that if it means Irving stays.


Maybe I should start a new thread, but I think a lot of us (I’m guilty of it too) throw Hayward around because he is a suppressed asset right now.  If Tatum and Smart are the main pieces for AD or Towns trade for that matter, I think Hayward with a full offseason to train and not rehab will flourish next year minus a wing (Tatum), and ball handler (Smart) to get in his way.  I’d like to give him that chance.

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I love Towns, but he almost certainly isn't available and to get him would probably cost too much and not be worth it. 

Just for fun, this is the trade I came up with, which is probably somewhat realistic and reasonable.

Towns, Dieng

for

Hayward, Tatum, 14, Mem, Bos 19

That would leave Boston (you do this obviously only if Irving comes back)

Irving, Smart, Brown, Towns, Horford, Morris, Baynes, Dieng, Williams, Theis, 20, 22

By taking on Dieng you keep Brown and an extra 1st

I think that is a better team than what we would have without the trade, so I'd be ok with that.  As I said, I don't think Towns is even available and if so you only do that if it means Irving stays.


Maybe I should start a new thread, but I think a lot of us (I’m guilty of it too) throw Hayward around because he is a suppressed asset right now.  If Tatum and Smart are the main pieces for AD or Towns trade for that matter, I think Hayward with a full offseason to train and not rehab will flourish next year minus a wing (Tatum), and ball handler (Smart) to get in his way.  I’d like to give him that chance.
100% agree! If Hayward comes back an All-Star we would look very foolish for dropping him
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I think Towns can become a player capable of being the best player on a Title winning team. And if he doesn't, who cares! He is still awesome and puts Boston closer to winning a title than they are today.
Where's the evidence of that?  KAT can't even get Minny to the playoffs.  It was Butler who got them to the playoffs the previous season.
Because KAT's nightly double double did nothing to help their playoff run at all. Nor did KAT upping his game when Butler missed a big 16 game chunk near the end of the season. ::)
How'd it work out this season without Butler?  Stats going up when another star is out is to be expected.  If Butler hadn't come back for the last 3 games of the 2017/18 season, Minny wouldn't have made the playoffs.  Towns is a very good player but he's done little to show he can be the best player on a championship team. 

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I think Towns can become a player capable of being the best player on a Title winning team. And if he doesn't, who cares! He is still awesome and puts Boston closer to winning a title than they are today.
Where's the evidence of that?  KAT can't even get Minny to the playoffs.  It was Butler who got them to the playoffs the previous season.
Because KAT's nightly double double did nothing to help their playoff run at all. Nor did KAT upping his game when Butler missed a big 16 game chunk near the end of the season. ::)
How'd it work out this season without Butler?  Stats going up when another star is out is to be expected.  If Butler hadn't come back for the last 3 games of the 2017/18 season, Minny wouldn't have made the playoffs.  Towns is a very good player but he's done little to show he can be the best player on a championship team.

Towns is not that player today.

That is different than saying he can become or won't become that in the future. He is still has much room for improvement especially on the defensive end and also as a passer (in other words, teamwork - using his talent in ways that better enable / improve his teammates / overall unit).

I think Towns can improve enough in those areas to become a player good enough to be the best player on a title winning team. I especially like his chances if he can get out of Minny and away from how dysfunctional and badly run that organization is and come to a place like here in Boston that is superbly run and will give him every chance to succeed and to become the player he is able to become. Doubly so in Boston with Al Horford here who Towns has a connection with. Horford can be a great mentor to Towns (especially as team player, defender & passer).

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I think Towns can become a player capable of being the best player on a Title winning team. And if he doesn't, who cares! He is still awesome and puts Boston closer to winning a title than they are today.
Where's the evidence of that?  KAT can't even get Minny to the playoffs.  It was Butler who got them to the playoffs the previous season.
Because KAT's nightly double double did nothing to help their playoff run at all. Nor did KAT upping his game when Butler missed a big 16 game chunk near the end of the season. ::)
How'd it work out this season without Butler?  Stats going up when another star is out is to be expected.  If Butler hadn't come back for the last 3 games of the 2017/18 season, Minny wouldn't have made the playoffs.  Towns is a very good player but he's done little to show he can be the best player on a championship team.
I mean other than have his first 4 seasons be perhaps the most impressive overall big man seasons to ever start a career.  His offensive repertoire is basically unheard of in league history, especially when factoring in the prolific 3 point shooting.  Defensively he needs some work, but he has the physical tools (1.5 career blocks per game), I think he has quite simply been hampered with a poorly constructed roster on generally poorly coached teams.  I think you put him on the C's next to Horford and his perceived defensive limitations will disappear (he won't ever be a contender for DPOY or anything, but he can certainly be an above average defender). 

I'd much rather have Towns than Davis.  I think he is a better passer, better rebounder, and a much more efficient scorer.  In addition to him actually showing the ability to stay on the court and a much better contract situation. 
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I think Towns can become a player capable of being the best player on a Title winning team. And if he doesn't, who cares! He is still awesome and puts Boston closer to winning a title than they are today.
Where's the evidence of that?  KAT can't even get Minny to the playoffs.  It was Butler who got them to the playoffs the previous season.
Because KAT's nightly double double did nothing to help their playoff run at all. Nor did KAT upping his game when Butler missed a big 16 game chunk near the end of the season. ::)
How'd it work out this season without Butler?  Stats going up when another star is out is to be expected.  If Butler hadn't come back for the last 3 games of the 2017/18 season, Minny wouldn't have made the playoffs.  Towns is a very good player but he's done little to show he can be the best player on a championship team.
That's the case for most stars who get drafted to incompetent franchises who time and again fail to build around them though. Kevin Garnett is a prime example of that. Dirk Nowitzki didn't show he could be a championship lead player in his first 4 years (but his teams were good, as he had great help in Finley and Nash). Steph Curry didn't even sniff being labeled a two time MVP when he was 25. Kobe Bryant took until his 5th season to really come into his own, and he only really began to do that when Phil Jackson took over.

The league's history is littered with cases of extremely talented guys not being able to properly showcase it, whether it be due to bad management, bad coaching or bad ownership. I believe Towns, like Davis, is a victim of all 3, and I believe he can be a best player on a banner-raising team.
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I love Towns, but he almost certainly isn't available and to get him would probably cost too much and not be worth it. 

Just for fun, this is the trade I came up with, which is probably somewhat realistic and reasonable.

Towns, Dieng

for

Hayward, Tatum, 14, Mem, Bos 19

That would leave Boston (you do this obviously only if Irving comes back)

Irving, Smart, Brown, Towns, Horford, Morris, Baynes, Dieng, Williams, Theis, 20, 22

By taking on Dieng you keep Brown and an extra 1st

I think that is a better team than what we would have without the trade, so I'd be ok with that.  As I said, I don't think Towns is even available and if so you only do that if it means Irving stays.
Sign me up if Minny would do this trade lol, a starting 5 of Irving-Brown-Morris-Horford-KAT with Dieng being our backup C as insurance for Baynes is definitely a contender.
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