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What is your assessment of KAT as a trade target?

Best young big in the game. Aside from his skill level, KAT's iron man health streak make him the most valuable young asset in the league. Already top 5-15 player just needs a good team to showcase his capability. Should be number 1 target for C's.
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Top Anthony Davis consolation prize. Elite player that has not been able to fully show his capabilities playing in Minny. Second only to AD in star power for attainable players. Would thrive under Stevens and playing next to Horford.
14 (28.6%)
Great player who might not be the best guy to build around. Incredibly talented but may lack the drive and athleticism to make a team a championship contender. Would be excited if we traded for him but it is a significant step down from AD.
9 (18.4%)
Like him but don't might not be worth the assets that it would take to get him. Good scorer who hasn't shown the ability to take it too the next level. Not a malcontent but attitude issues could be a poor fit for C's. Acceptable but not ideal
9 (18.4%)
Think he's a Good player but I don't want him in Boston. Definitely not worth losing Tatum and/or Brown + assets. In a vacuum best player in the deal but has too many red flags to make me pull the trigger. Pass
5 (10.2%)
Bad player who is bound to be an overpaid bottom feeder his whole career. Can't play defense. Bad team mate. Doesn't care about winning. Limited athleticism. Wouldn't even sign him let alone give up assets.
3 (6.1%)

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Offline Smartacus

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furball mentioned in the Kyler thread that Jimmy Stewart from Felger and Mazz has heard we are targeting Towns in a trade. Where do you fall on KAT as a trade target?

Gotta say I'm actually in Option 1. Towns is arguably a better young asset than AD given his now legendary health streak. He's a smart, strong, player who would be a great fit next to Horford who he grew up idolizing.

I don't know if its even possible but KAT would probably be my #1 somewhat attainable trade target in league.

What do you think?
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I always impressed by his box scores until I watched him. Then I watched butler leave saying he doesn't like playing with the selfish Minnesota players (aka towns and Wiggins)

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I always impressed by his box scores until I watched him. Then I watched butler leave saying he doesn't like playing with the selfish Minnesota players (aka towns and Wiggins)

Inability to play with Jimmy Butler and Andrew Wiggins are not enough to taint my view of him but I see your point.

I think our culture would mask any character concerns that Towns would bring with him especially if he really took to Horford as a true role model.

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I like him but don’t love him. I don’t know how we get him and don’t tread water. Now, if we could ADD him to Tatum and Brown, that’d be quite the summer. Looks like we won’t be contenders for at least another couple years though and by then, who knows if guys like JT and JB would wanna stick around
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I like him but don’t love him. I don’t know how we get him and don’t tread water. Now, if we could ADD him to Tatum and Brown, that’d be quite the summer. Looks like we won’t be contenders for at least another couple years though and by then, who knows if guys like JT and JB would wanna stick around

This is Karl Anthony Towns, we are not acquiring him without giving up A+ assets. Just like with AD the conversation starts with Tatum and you see what you can do to keep Jaylen out of the conversations.

The good news is that to do this deal, they are choosing Wiggins and a bigger return over Towns.

Whether or not you believe Wiggins is better than Jaylen or not they are at least redundant. You could probably save Jaylen from the deal and would frankly probably need him on a Towns led Celtics team.

If Kyrie walks you either run with Smart or if Smart needs to be included I re-sign Rozier. Most of the talk around Rozier in the fan base is negative but I don't understand how people can't be curious to see if he can continue to develop in a starting roll.

Hayward returning to form is the X factor. If he could develop chemistry with Towns and Horford I think were back to top 2 in the East.

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Love him.

I don't consider him a young big anymore. He has been in the league 4 years, finished his rookie deal and is on a max contract. He is a vet. Markkanen for me is the best young big man in the league today.

So I went with the second option. I think people soured on him because (1) he had a terrible playoff series. (2) his defense is dodgy. I think there has been too big a reaction (an overreaction) to those two things. The defense shows flashes of quality and is fixable. He likely will never be an All-League defender but he can become a solid defender. He has shown that capability. He just hasn't been consistent enough yet. He had a horrid playoff series but so have many others and they have recovered from that.

So I went with the 2nd option because I think Minny have done him a major disservice by putting Towns alongside a second big man (Dieng, Taj Gibson) so often. They are not making the most of his offensive skill-set. Towns is such a matchup problem and can stretch out a defense so well. Minny are bailing out of the opposition by putting an easy to defend option next to them that allows them to clog the paint and make things difficult for Towns other teammates (shrink the floor defensively). Towns would be lethal in a proper offensive setup geared for today's league.

I think Towns can become a player capable of being the best player on a Title winning team. And if he doesn't, who cares! He is still awesome and puts Boston closer to winning a title than they are today.

I prefer Anthony Davis. I always have. Because of his superior quickness on both ends of floor. It allows him to make a greater variety of both offensive and defensive plays. However, after Davis, Towns is my favourite alternative.

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We're not getting him unless we're okay with giving up both Tatum and Brown. He's the lone bright spot on the Wolves, and it'd be madness for them to trade him while keeping albatrosses like Wiggins on the squad. I'd obviously love to have him if it's only Tatum+picks though. This probably entices Kyrie to stay as the 2nd option on our squad. Sign me up for a Kyrie-Brown-Hayward-Horford-KAT lineup!
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I always impressed by his box scores until I watched him. Then I watched butler leave saying he doesn't like playing with the selfish Minnesota players (aka towns and Wiggins)

I read somewhere that Butler actually left because he thought Minnesota was going to renegotiate his contract as soon as he got there. When that didn't happen, he threw a hissy-fit and forced a trade, blaming the young players for his actions.

Towns stats are basically what you would expect from a very good player on a crappy team.

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I voted option 2. Davis is preferable as his defensive abilities are better, he's less turnover prone and foul prone and he gets significantly more free throws, which is a big area of weakness for us. However, if we could get Towns I would be ecstatic.

It's not an exaggeration to say Towns has one of the most multi-faceted offensive games from a big man we've ever seen. He's a 40%+ shooter from three, 50%+ from the field and hits the mid-80% mark from the charity stripe. He also nightly gets you a dozen rebounds. He's not the best defender, but he's shown room for improvement, and as Who said, I think people still overreact from his one bad playoff showing.

He also showed what he's capable of in the post-All Star Break part of the season, where his numbers became simply ridiculous. 28 - 13.4 - 4 on 53/43/81 shooting. He's still a bit turnover prone and foul prone as I said, but he's incredibly durable and hasn't been given a fair shake due to the garbage roster construction in Minnesota
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SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
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I voted option 2. Davis is preferable as his defensive abilities are better, he's less turnover prone and foul prone and he gets significantly more free throws, which is a big area of weakness for us. However, if we could get Towns I would be ecstatic.

It's not an exaggeration to say Towns has one of the most multi-faceted offensive games from a big man we've ever seen. He's a 40%+ shooter from three, 50%+ from the field and hits the mid-80% mark from the charity stripe. He also nightly gets you a dozen rebounds. He's not the best defender, but he's shown room for improvement, and as Who said, I think people still overreact from his one bad playoff showing.

He also showed what he's capable of in the post-All Star Break part of the season, where his numbers became simply ridiculous. 28 - 13.4 - 4 on 53/43/81 shooting. He's still a bit turnover prone and foul prone as I said, but he's incredibly durable and hasn't been given a fair shake due to the garbage roster construction in Minnesota
His durability makes up for the gap in TOs and FT rate compared to AD imo, availability is the best ability to have as a player (especially for a team with championship aspirations), and him being quite a bit younger on a long term extension is also very attractive.
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I voted option 2. Davis is preferable as his defensive abilities are better, he's less turnover prone and foul prone and he gets significantly more free throws, which is a big area of weakness for us. However, if we could get Towns I would be ecstatic.

It's not an exaggeration to say Towns has one of the most multi-faceted offensive games from a big man we've ever seen. He's a 40%+ shooter from three, 50%+ from the field and hits the mid-80% mark from the charity stripe. He also nightly gets you a dozen rebounds. He's not the best defender, but he's shown room for improvement, and as Who said, I think people still overreact from his one bad playoff showing.

He also showed what he's capable of in the post-All Star Break part of the season, where his numbers became simply ridiculous. 28 - 13.4 - 4 on 53/43/81 shooting. He's still a bit turnover prone and foul prone as I said, but he's incredibly durable and hasn't been given a fair shake due to the garbage roster construction in Minnesota
His durability makes up for the gap in TOs and FT rate compared to AD imo, availability is the best ability to have as a player (especially for a team with championship aspirations), and him being quite a bit younger on a long term extension is also very attractive.
You're not wrong, but that's what also makes me think he'd be less available
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I voted option 2. Davis is preferable as his defensive abilities are better, he's less turnover prone and foul prone and he gets significantly more free throws, which is a big area of weakness for us. However, if we could get Towns I would be ecstatic.

It's not an exaggeration to say Towns has one of the most multi-faceted offensive games from a big man we've ever seen. He's a 40%+ shooter from three, 50%+ from the field and hits the mid-80% mark from the charity stripe. He also nightly gets you a dozen rebounds. He's not the best defender, but he's shown room for improvement, and as Who said, I think people still overreact from his one bad playoff showing.

He also showed what he's capable of in the post-All Star Break part of the season, where his numbers became simply ridiculous. 28 - 13.4 - 4 on 53/43/81 shooting. He's still a bit turnover prone and foul prone as I said, but he's incredibly durable and hasn't been given a fair shake due to the garbage roster construction in Minnesota
His durability makes up for the gap in TOs and FT rate compared to AD imo, availability is the best ability to have as a player (especially for a team with championship aspirations), and him being quite a bit younger on a long term extension is also very attractive.
You're not wrong, but that's what also makes me think he'd be less available
Absolutely, as I said I believe we can only get him if we give up both Brown and Tatum, which I have vehemently opposed in any deal for one superstar.
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He isn't available and probably cost more than Davis

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He isn't available and probably cost more than Davis

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I think Towns can become a player capable of being the best player on a Title winning team. And if he doesn't, who cares! He is still awesome and puts Boston closer to winning a title than they are today.
Where's the evidence of that?  KAT can't even get Minny to the playoffs.  It was Butler who got them to the playoffs the previous season.