Disappointed with #6 and want to trade it? Ask yourself this.

[SuperCeltic92]

Some posters are quite ridiculous.

Al Jefferson - 15th Overall Pick
Avery Bradley - 19th Overall Pick (Jury Still Out)
Jared Sullinger - 21st Overall Pick (Jury Still Out)
Leon Powe - 49th Overall Pick
Ryan Gomes - 50th Overall Pick
Glen Davis - 35th Overall Pick
Kendrick Perkins - 27th Overall Pick
Gabe Pruitt - 32nd Overall Pick
JR Giddens - 30th Overall Pick

Which one of those picks are in the top 10? None. Most of those picks mentioned were 2nd round picks. What do you guys expect out of 2nd round picks? Their borderline NBA role players, maybe a few starters sprinkled out here and there but that's largely due to the coaching staff and role a specific player plays on a specific team.

One of those picks was in the top half of the draft and that was Al Jefferson. Who isn't an average NBA player. He's a solid NBA player. From 06-09 he was a double-double machine, though on bad teams. He's a career 50 % shooter. Kendrick Perkins overrated? Slightly above scrub status? Did anybody watch the '10 finals when his knee blew out? We lost our rim protector and the series was history after that. Lakers came back and won 2 straight games to close us out. Guess that's an impact a 'scrub' has on your team.

It's much easier to say Player X would of helped our team instead of Danny drafting Player Y a year or two removed from the draft, or even years down the line. You never know what some of these kids will turn out to be picking in the 2nd halves of drafts. In the top half, you have a pretty good understanding.

[BballTim]

I'll take my chances with Kevin Love over Ainge picking another Giddens, Johnson or Fab Melo.

Easy dilemma.

Trade the 6.

Yes, because he really struck out with Rondo, Big Al, AB, Sully, Powe, Gomes, BBD, Perk.  By all means, let's hold those late 1st round selections against him.  and all those other GMs, they're rocket scientists because every pick they've made has turned out to be an all-star.

How about this: One pick Ainge bought turned into an All-Star.

Jefferson is an above-average NBA player, despite his defensive inadequacies.

Bradley - role player.

Sullinger - conditioning issues, promising but jury still out. Definitely not an All-Star.

Powe - gone.

Gomes - scrub.

Davis - didn't draft him, scrub.

Perkins - as overrated as the day is long. Slightly above scrub status.

The rest - game show, called "Name That Scrub."

Tony Wroten would have helped this club significantly - 13 ppg last year. And if Ainge was intent on drafting a big, Miles Plumlee would have been a HUGE improvement.

Instead, poor Danny had to feed his attracttion for 7-foot stiffs and select Fab Melo, the first 5 off the bench on my All-Scrub Celltics all-time team - although I've moved Vin Baker to the 4 to make room for the suckitude that is Fab Melo.

Ainge's status as a draft genius is one of the great myths of this board, along with Rondo's defensive prowess and our immediate need to exhume the rotting, fetid corpse that is Kendrick Perkins' career.

Make all the lame excuses for Ainge you want - the Celtics are better off with Ainge trading picks than they are with him using all of them. The record is abundantly clear.

  The record is abundantly clear, so's the fact that you have no idea what the expectation is for a given draft pick. To quickly point out how off base your assessments are, let's see how the players you mentioned compare in certain categories to other players picked in the same spot over the last 60 years:

Al Jefferson - 8th in games, 2nd in ppg, 1st in rpg

Avery Bradley - 28th in games, 16th in ppg, 30th in rpg

Jared Sullinger - 13th in ppg, 2nd in rpg

Leon Powe - 10th in games, 6th in ppg, 7th in rpg

Ryan Gomes - 5th in games, 2nd in ppg, 4th in rpg

Glen Davis - 6th in games, 5th in ppg, 8th in rpg

Kendrick Perkins - 5th in games, 19th in ppg, 3rd in rpg


  So out of 7 players, the 2nd year guy is the only one who hasn't played more games than the average player picked at that spot.

  Here's what else we see from those 7 players:

  The 5 players older than Bradley are top 20% for games played, 3 of them top 10%.

  All 7 in top 3rd in ppg, 4 of them top 10%

  Only Bradley's outside the top 15% in rebounds, over half of them are top7%.

  You want to dismiss Powe as "gone" and Gomes as "a scrub"? Fine, but if you realize that less than half the players chosen at those spots ever play in the nba and only about 1/4 of them pay as many as 50 games in their careers it's hard to call those draft picks anything other than well above average.

  And you should do a little research on how draft day trades generally work. The Celts and Sonics agreed on the trade before the draft, so it's fairly unlikely Danny said "pick whoever you want at 35 and we'll take them".