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Re: celtics biggest weakness: no quality 3 pt sharpshooter
« Reply #75 on: July 25, 2013, 09:26:54 PM »

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didn't Lee have the highest, or one of the highest % from beyond the arc two years ago? It may have been from the corner?

I've heard Ainge say something like this but it isn't an overall number - Lee was 21st and 22nd overall in 10-11 and 11-12. Maybe it's from the corners.

Those are pretty good numbers regardless, obviously. The big mystery last year wasn't even Lee's percentage, which at 37% is decent. It was that his attempts (even per minute) went way down. Not sure whether this reflected a poor role for him in the offense, or a loss of confidence.

Re: celtics biggest weakness: no quality 3 pt sharpshooter
« Reply #76 on: July 25, 2013, 10:55:29 PM »

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As soon as I saw this title I though "wrong".

We have only 1, Lee. Dude has a long record of being just that since day one in the NBA.

Re: celtics biggest weakness: no quality 3 pt sharpshooter
« Reply #77 on: July 25, 2013, 11:14:10 PM »

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in case you haven't heard - we want to have as many weaknesses as possible this year in order to acquire a good draft position next summer.

so don't suggest any solutions unless they will contribute to more losses.

Bench Sullinger and Olynyk.  Play a smallball lineup of Green at center and four guards.

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Re: celtics biggest weakness: no quality 3 pt sharpshooter
« Reply #78 on: July 25, 2013, 11:24:10 PM »

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in case you haven't heard - we want to have as many weaknesses as possible this year in order to acquire a good draft position next summer.

so don't suggest any solutions unless they will contribute to more losses.

Bench Sullinger and Olynyk.  Play a smallball lineup of Green at center and four guards.
I'm not sure why we would be afraid to play those two. They should be good rotation guys, but they are carrying a team any time soon.

Re: celtics biggest weakness: no quality 3 pt sharpshooter
« Reply #79 on: July 25, 2013, 11:32:08 PM »

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in case you haven't heard - we want to have as many weaknesses as possible this year in order to acquire a good draft position next summer.

so don't suggest any solutions unless they will contribute to more losses.

Bench Sullinger and Olynyk.  Play a smallball lineup of Green at center and four guards.
I'm not sure why we would be afraid to play those two. They should be good rotation guys, but they are carrying a team any time soon.

It was a joke response to the idea that we should only suggest solutions that will lead to more losses.
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Re: celtics biggest weakness: no quality 3 pt sharpshooter
« Reply #80 on: July 25, 2013, 11:53:05 PM »

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Olynyk and sully starting at some pt of the year will surprise alot of ppl. You heard it here it first

You got two guys that pretty much alone was the main guy at the pf/c defending their college teams to great season records. And it wasnt a fluke. Both faced some pretty darn good pf/c players that were at times much quicker, more athletic, just as skilled but didnt get beat like you might think they should. Just really high iq, no backing down, endless motor, vocal, leadership skills, teamwork.

Honestly we should be excited about these two playing together. Double the iq, motor etc. In addition the dynamic hi lo game possibility.

Re: celtics biggest weakness: no quality 3 pt sharpshooter
« Reply #81 on: July 26, 2013, 12:06:12 AM »

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As much as i hate to say it, the team hasnt been the same with the loss of ray allen. Its a guy who can go off shooting threes and play solid defense. The shooting threat alone opens up the floor to confuse opponents defense and also give other guys on the team to operate.

As of now a rondo and ab combination is bad in terms of opening things up. And with rondo last year and with his injury less likely to run more in transition, the worry is magnified. Eventually i wouldnt mind brooks on the floor more with rondo bc at least he can create his own shot.

Anyone else feel this is going to become a problem again?

I agree with you that AB is a bad fit with Rondo, at least based on his shooting to this point in his career. A player in the style of Reddick seems like a much better fit to me.

AB on the other hand seems like he'd be great with a guy like Curry or Irving.

What? Rondo and AB are probably the best defensive starting backcourt in the league. Anyone beg to differ?
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« Reply #82 on: July 26, 2013, 12:08:54 AM »

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Courtney Lee.

Lee really disappointed me to start out the year, but after Rondo went down and Bradley and Lee were starting, he really seemed to find a groove.  Then he got that injury vs. Dallas, and he fell into a slump.  A slump compounded by Doc benching him in the playoffs.

I wonder if something was going on behind the scenes.
Next year, he gets another chance. If it works, we have one of the best SGs in the league (second tier SG who will be in high demand; SGs are the least deep position in the league and good ones are hard to come by). If it doesn't work, we lose more and hopefully get a better chance at a top pick.
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Re: celtics biggest weakness: no quality 3 pt sharpshooter
« Reply #83 on: July 26, 2013, 02:32:34 AM »

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Courtney Lee.

Lee really disappointed me to start out the year, but after Rondo went down and Bradley and Lee were starting, he really seemed to find a groove.  Then he got that injury vs. Dallas, and he fell into a slump.  A slump compounded by Doc benching him in the playoffs.

I wonder if something was going on behind the scenes.
Next year, he gets another chance. If it works, we have one of the best SGs in the league (second tier SG who will be in high demand; SGs are the least deep position in the league and good ones are hard to come by). If it doesn't work, we lose more and hopefully get a better chance at a top pick.

I have a hard time coming up with a team where Courtney Lee is better than their starting SG (maybe a team that is projected as starting a rookie).  By comparison, there are a few teams where I think Brandon Bass would be an upgrade over their starter.

Courtney Lee isn't that special.  He's like a younger, better Keith Bogans.
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Re: celtics biggest weakness: no quality 3 pt sharpshooter
« Reply #84 on: July 26, 2013, 06:12:18 AM »

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I think we are being harsh on Lee. He is more than justa a good Keith Bogans, he can be a really solid R and D guard. Once the season starts I expect we will have a more settled guard rotation than last season`s chopping and changing all the way through. That will help the likes of Bradley and Lee get back to operating off their strengths and putting up better numbers.
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« Reply #85 on: July 26, 2013, 07:33:33 AM »

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What? Rondo and AB are probably the best defensive starting backcourt in the league. Anyone beg to differ?

I think Phoenix might be their equal, I think Bledsoe is just as good as Bradley and more physical.  Depending who else starts for them, Shannon Brown or Drogan.

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« Reply #86 on: July 26, 2013, 08:21:42 AM »

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Lee makes wide open corner 3s more often than not. But he has a slow awkward looking shot, and cant shoot over ppl.

Our best is only slightly above avg in the league. Jeff gree has potential to b better imo

Re: celtics biggest weakness: no quality 3 pt sharpshooter
« Reply #87 on: August 02, 2013, 09:36:28 AM »

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It would be amazing if the Celtics get to double digits wins in the upcoming 2013 - 2014 season. Current prediction is 8 wins for the season, with a few miracles, the Celtics can get to 10 wins this year but it is going to take a herculean effort.

I think this is a bith harsh. We won't look anything like the Celts from the past years, but Rondo+Green+Bradley+Sullinger+Lee+Bass+Brooks+Humphries+Wallace is not the worst team in the NBA.

If we are tanking for real, I suggest holding out Rondo or getting rid of Lee/Bass/Humphries.
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Re: celtics biggest weakness: no quality 3 pt sharpshooter
« Reply #88 on: August 03, 2013, 07:03:04 PM »

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our biggest weakness isn't a lack of a quality 3pt shooter, it is that we are lacking a #1 option star.  rondo is very good, but he isn't "that guy".