Chad Ford Mock Draft 4.0 - Celtics Picks

[bbd24]

Watch Ainge make a promise to this tweener, ala Giddens, without caring who else might fall to 21/22.

Two future starters can and should be drafted with those first rounders. It's a deep draft.

How do we know Draymond Green isn't a future starter ?

[ianboyextreme]

Draymond Green would be a great addition to this team. He is the type of guy who turns into a leader on a team. The type of guy who helps teams win championchips. Besides his leadership and work ethic, his game reminds me a lot of Kevin Love- great pick and pop player, decent post moves, very good rebounder, not overly athletic, undersized. I really want to draft him. Hes not the run of the mill "tweener".

[arambone]

For the Bobcats? We don't.

Is this guy going to start for a championship team? Is he going to be able to somewhat contain LeBron, Melo, Durant,etc?

Is he going to be able to create his own shot against the average nba 3?

Ryan Gomes was an NBA starter too - for the 19 or whatever win Celtics, alongside Telfair.

I'd rather have Darius Miller, not to mention Harkless, QMiller, Jeff Taylor, or Fournier. Except Taylor, all those guys are 19 y.o.

The only reason to draft a SF in the first round this year is to find an eventual decent replacement for Pierce. The 3 is the strongest position on the Celtics roster, and the starter spot is locked up for at least another 2 years.

Drafting a high character undersized 4 to contribute at the 3 might make sense at the very bottom of round 1 or round 2, but not with picks 21/22.

A guy with Green's physical and athletic limitations can only succeed on a bad team or as an offensive sparkplug off the bench. The NBA is too spread out and stocked with elite athletes to expect anything more from Green, especially in the playoffs.

I'd rather have Royce White for 41 home games plus some regional away games, than have Green for every game.

[ianboyextreme]

For the Bobcats? We don't.

Is this guy going to start for a championship team? Is he going to be able to somewhat contain LeBron, Melo, Durant,etc?

Is he going to be able to create his own shot against the average nba 3?

Ryan Gomes was an NBA starter too - for the 19 or whatever win Celtics, alongside Telfair.

I'd rather have Darius Miller, not to mention Harkless, QMiller, Jeff Taylor, or Fournier. Except Taylor, all those guys are 19 y.o.

The only reason to draft a SF in the first round this year is to find an eventual decent replacement for Pierce. The 3 is the strongest position on the Celtics roster, and the starter spot is locked up for at least another 2 years.

Drafting a high character undersized 4 to contribute at the 3 might make sense at the very bottom of round 1 or round 2, but not with picks 21/22.

A guy with Green's physical and athletic limitations can only succeed on a bad team or as an offensive sparkplug off the bench. The NBA is too spread out and stocked with elite athletes to expect anything more from Green, especially in the playoffs.

I'd rather have Royce White for 41 home games plus some regional away games, than have Green for every game.

6'11", 40 inch vertical power fowards ae'rnt the only guys who contribute to championchips. Draymond Green is the perfect bench player/6th man. I wouldnt expect him to be able to contain Melo or Lebron just as I dont expect that from 90% of 3's in the nba. I guarantee nobody else in our draft range, or in this draft will be able to contain Lebron or Melo. Obviously you put a lot of stock into athleticism which I, myself, realized a long time ago is irrelevant when a player posesses skill (see Kevin Love), and knowledge of the game. Draymond Green posesses both of those as well as a great work ethic. You should watch him play.

[arambone]

"Draymond Green is the perfect bench player/6th man"

My opinion is close to this. I just don't think he's a starter.

Harkless, White, Jeff Taylor project to starter. Harkless and Taylor are much better defenders of the SF position at the NBA level. You would probably agree with that.

[ianboyextreme]

"Draymond Green is the perfect bench player/6th man"

My opinion is close to this. I just don't think he's a starter.

Harkless, White, Jeff Taylor project to starter. Harkless and Taylor are much better defenders of the SF position at the NBA level. You would probably agree with that.

Yes I agree that Harkless and Taylor are both much better defenders, but not Royce White. Royce White has a rep as a sub par defender. I believe Green is defensively aware, he just doesnt have the lateral quickness to keep up with 3's. I dont see him as a 3 though, I see him as a 4 who could be a defender reminiscent of big baby who i think does a really good job in team defense. For me, Greens elite passing ability, very good rebounding ability (which we really need), ability to hit the nba 3, and his leadership, all outweigh any potential flaws he may have. Hes more surefire to be successful in his role than Harkless and Taylor are. I think Royce has all star potential, but im not sold on him.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

"Draymond Green is the perfect bench player/6th man"

My opinion is close to this. I just don't think he's a starter.

Harkless, White, Jeff Taylor project to starter. Harkless and Taylor are much better defenders of the SF position at the NBA level. You would probably agree with that.

Like Green. But I'd rather have Jeff Taylor if available. I still think Draymond Green is a PF, and Im not so sure if he can translate to the NBA as a 3. I will take him in the 2nd if availble though, but I will give a long very hard look if were talking about taking him in the first.

[Galeto]

After seeing more of Draymond Green on ESPN3, I've become more of a fan.  He's still no better than an average athlete especially when it comes to finishing around the rim but he's not a well-below average athlete.  His athleticism and body control have significantly improved from his first two seasons in college when he was much heftier.  He could still stand to lose 15 pounds of fat or tone up with muscle to improve his athleticism further.  If he could actually get in shape and put some lean muscle on his frame, he could potentially be a viable starter, capable of something like a 14/6/5 line.

He is definitely really skilled.  Good ball handler, nice spot up shooter from deep with a proficiency in the trailing spot up three  that Pierce and Dirk hit a lot, excellent passer and his body control is also really good.  His body control stands out in his low post moves.

[CFAN38]

Green is to skilled not to find a niche in the NBA. He will never be a SF, he is an undersized 4 with advanced passing and ball handling skills for the position. I have posted this before but what differences are there between Green and anthony mason?

 

[snively]

I want Will Barton.  An unorthodox game but lottery talent - reminiscent of Rondo in that regard.

Has Corey Brewer's painfully skinny frame and stringy athleticism, but a much more developed offensive game - he's got a great collection of floaters and push shots and a nice little baby jumper.  Has the handles to be a dangerous secondary slasher, off of kick-outs or curls.  Has some Rip Hamilton in him.

He's a great rebounder at the 2-guard spot, too. 

[dmopower]

Im undecided on Fab but if Royce White is actually 6'8" and his wingspan is 7 foot or close then he is definetly worth this pick. I know he cant shoot yet but his ball handling skills and court vision are unparralled at his position and he has a solid post game as well and will pass out of the paint for better shots. I know some are worried about his height and it does matter but he played college against several lottery picks and pretty much was unstoppable.  This is the type of playyer you roll the dice on. IMHO

[Celtics4ever]

I think Royce White = Anthony Mason II and worth the pick.   I think he is less a gamble than Melo, who is not athletic at all and didn't produce any meaningful points or rebounds and woefully one dimensional.

[dmopower]

I think Royce White = Anthony Mason II and worth the pick.   I think he is less a gamble than Melo, who is not athletic at all and didn't produce any meaningful points or rebounds and woefully one dimensional.

Anthony mason was a good passer, Royce White is a great creator. I believe he will be better maybe by far, I'm dying as I wait for his actual Combine stats. Is he really 6 foot 8 and 270 like He himself says he is. if so he is a steal at 21 or 22.