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Quote from: tazzmaniac on June 18, 2019, 11:10:21 PMQuote from: celticinorlando on June 18, 2019, 11:07:38 PMWilling to give Hayward one more year. If he does not improve this season and is not Utah Gordon...cut him loose.How are you going to do that? If he doesn't improve he'll pick up his 34M player option. So you'll have to give up a lot to get rid of him or take on bad contracts. I really want him to succeed in Boston. Get back to the guy that made the All Star team. But after this past season, I am having a hard time seeing it from him. He needs to be 23 ppg 8 plus boards 3 plus assists kind of player for Boston and for that money
Quote from: celticinorlando on June 18, 2019, 11:07:38 PMWilling to give Hayward one more year. If he does not improve this season and is not Utah Gordon...cut him loose.How are you going to do that? If he doesn't improve he'll pick up his 34M player option. So you'll have to give up a lot to get rid of him or take on bad contracts.
Willing to give Hayward one more year. If he does not improve this season and is not Utah Gordon...cut him loose.
Thing about losing Al would be this team would have absolutely no steady leadership. Smart is not level headedTatum and Brown have no idea how to be a leaderRozier cares only about himselfHayward wilted under the lights last year. Just disappeared. He is not a leader at all. Then you throw in more rookies or guys new to Boston...going to be a rudderless ship.
Quote from: celticinorlando on June 18, 2019, 10:58:52 PMThing about losing Al would be this team would have absolutely no steady leadership. Smart is not level headedTatum and Brown have no idea how to be a leaderRozier cares only about himselfHayward wilted under the lights last year. Just disappeared. He is not a leader at all. Then you throw in more rookies or guys new to Boston...going to be a rudderless ship.I don’t know maybe time for the coach to take his head outta the clouds and do something?
Danny is hauling off and destroying the entire team. He doesn't deserve the chance to oversee another rebuild. He either corrects the ship and retains our Stars, or he leaves. I hope Wyc realizes this.
So either it’s posturing or tampering, but something is apparently up.Whatever, I don’t even care if he walks too. Blow it up.This season went about as bad as possible. Regular season was frustratingly inconsistent. Playoffs epitomized that with five straight wins followed by four straight losses. Then we lost just about all tiebreakers in the lottery. Kyrie is leaving. AD never comes. Now Horford apparently ready to walk.Yikes, what a difference a year makes. This time last year we were brimming with confidence after a deep playoff run and two all-stars on the way back with two budding young stars.Ugh.
Quote from: celticinorlando on June 18, 2019, 11:17:03 PMQuote from: tazzmaniac on June 18, 2019, 11:10:21 PMQuote from: celticinorlando on June 18, 2019, 11:07:38 PMWilling to give Hayward one more year. If he does not improve this season and is not Utah Gordon...cut him loose.How are you going to do that? If he doesn't improve he'll pick up his 34M player option. So you'll have to give up a lot to get rid of him or take on bad contracts. I really want him to succeed in Boston. Get back to the guy that made the All Star team. But after this past season, I am having a hard time seeing it from him. He needs to be 23 ppg 8 plus boards 3 plus assists kind of player for Boston and for that moneyHe's never been a 23/8/3 player ever.
I realize how important Al was to this team and our offensive sets. But he is 33 years old. A 4 year contract takes him to 38 years old in the last yer of his contract. No thanks.The posturing that Al will go sign a 4 year contract with another team. No kidding he will. But I don't believe another team will offer him this. Thus he will return to the negotiation table after testing free agency and if the bridge wasn't burned, we can revisit matching whatever 2 or 3 year offer teams are likely to offer him is within our acceptable range. Or he signs elsewhere and we thank him for his tremendous professionalism, watch the youth movement (more minutes for Time Lord) and see what Danny and Co. are able to pull off with a bunch of young cornerstone players already, enough room to sign a max player and league exception player, and a bevy of draft picks moving forward. I don't see this as doom and gloom at all.
League source: Celtics believe Horford may already have a good idea of where he's headed, after such a dramatic step back from negotiations.
Mark Murphy@Murf561hQuoteLeague source: Celtics believe Horford may already have a good idea of where he's headed, after such a dramatic step back from negotiations.https://twitter.com/Murf56/status/1141169268949704704
Quote from: RJ87 on June 19, 2019, 12:00:37 AMMark Murphy@Murf561hQuoteLeague source: Celtics believe Horford may already have a good idea of where he's headed, after such a dramatic step back from negotiations.https://twitter.com/Murf56/status/1141169268949704704So they basically know he was tampered with.