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Re: Paul Pierce: “It’s over”
« Reply #30 on: April 29, 2019, 01:09:34 AM »

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I don't understand the hivemind "anti-pierce" mentality everyone has about his comment. Since when were  we all little snowflakes about another mans opinion? Respect to pierce for staying honest on live national television to the world. He believes its over and that's what he believes. I also agree with pierce.

At the end of the day, it's television. Its entertainment. Nothing more nothing less. Was it fun that pierce said this? Yes. Yes it WAS

Re: Paul Pierce: “It’s over”
« Reply #31 on: April 29, 2019, 01:48:42 AM »

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I think it is over.
Game 1 is over. 

Giannis played about as bad as he can possibly play.  He's been able to cook us normally.  Gonna be hard to get him to keep playing that bad.  Maybe he got use to playing trash Detroit defense and needs to adjust.
Giannis did not play "about as bad as he can possibly play". He scored 4 less than he's been averaging this post-season run, which has mainly been games against a weak Detroit team where the points have come easy. He shot worse than usual, but he also hit 3x the amount of threes he normally would. His foul shooting has been bad all postseason.

He's coming up against an elite defensive coach who has had days to figure out what amounts to a plan to stop Giannis, and Al + Baynes executed it perfectly. Giannis shot 2-10 when defended by those two. He didn't play excellently, but I'm not sure you're giving Stevens and our players enough credit. I'm not sure what Giannis can do to get back into the 25-35 point range. Hit more threes??

Sure, he might hit a few more of those contested layups, but I don't think the difference between him being somewhat shut down vs him scoring 30 is what made us victorious by 22.

I think it's more the fact that he sets the tone for Milwaukee's offense by the way he scores but we took that away from him. We were definitely a big part of him playing probably his worst game in months, if not this whole year. He got 22 points, but 9 of them were on open 3s that were given to him to stop him scoring in the paint, and 5 from the stripe. The only 4 shots he made from inside the arc were:

- post up of Hayward on transition
- iso on Baynes
- dunk on Theis due to a miscommunication
- dunk when Brown tried to save the ball and threw it to him under the basket

Those 8 points in the paint are the lowest PITP he's had all season I believe. Same for the 4-16 shooting within the arc.

The way that the Celtics defended Giannis took away most of his transition opportunities, which are what Milwaukee has lived on this year. Transition opportunities not just for him but for others. Milwaukee scored 27 ppg in transition possessions (21%) during the regular season and 29 ppg (23%), both No.1 in the league. They made sure there were bodies in front of him at the top of the key every time.

And in the halfcourt Al was meeting him at the top of the key as well and constantly directing him towards where the help defense was going to come from. It forced Giannis to hang on to the ball too long, or try to make a contested play with 2 players contesting him (e.g. the shots that JT and Al blocked).

Because he was getting stifled he tried to play a bit too much hero ball instead of trying to find the open man, which might have been something LeBum would have done if guarded like this (his usage rate was 32%, everyone else on the Bucks starting unit had 14-18). Because of it Milwaukee was largely forced into a half court offense where the pace suited us.

Budenholzer will make adjustments for Game 2 which Brad and Co will have to predict and plan for. They may turn Antetokounmpo into more of a facilitator to pass out of those double teams earlier. In that case Brad will have succeeded in taking the ball out of his hands. Bucks may also decide to switch more, instead of have their big men drop in coverage in PnR which left Al wide open for pops at the 3 pt line at least 3 times tonight. We shot 54% tonight, if we don't shoot as well in Game 2 then the Bucks will have more transition opportunities instead of having to walk it up the floor each time, which might free up Giannis, if not for himself then to do transition kickouts to shooters. It's going to be like a chess match.
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Re: Paul Pierce: “It’s over”
« Reply #32 on: April 29, 2019, 02:20:38 AM »

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From Dan Feldman on Twitter:

Road teams to win Game 1 by 15+ in the last decade:

BOS over MIL in 2019
IND* over CLE in 2018
HOU* over SAS in 2017
LAC* over HOU in 2015
LAC* over OKC in 2014

*Lost series
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Re: Paul Pierce: “It’s over”
« Reply #33 on: April 29, 2019, 02:25:49 AM »

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From Dan Feldman on Twitter:

Road teams to win Game 1 by 15+ in the last decade:

BOS over MIL in 2019
IND* over CLE in 2018
HOU* over SAS in 2017
LAC* over HOU in 2015
LAC* over OKC in 2014

*Lost series

Also, Celtics are 37-1 when they lead a series 2-0. That "1" coming from the 2018 ECF.  :'(

So, celebrate while we still can cuz it'll be a tall task beating the number 1 seed in the east.


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Re: Paul Pierce: “It’s over”
« Reply #34 on: April 29, 2019, 06:12:36 AM »

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Quote
From Dan Feldman on Twitter:

Road teams to win Game 1 by 15+ in the last decade:

BOS over MIL in 2019
IND* over CLE in 2018
HOU* over SAS in 2017
LAC* over HOU in 2015
LAC* over OKC in 2014

Winning game one is important because:

Quote
Game 1:
A team with home-court advantage in game 1 has a 53.2% of winning the entire series. A win in game 1 for the home team drives this percentage up by nearly 13% and thus a game 1 win for the home team means they have a pretty good shot (66%). A win for the away team interestingly enough drives their winning percentage up to the same 66% but from an initial 46.8% in game 1. If these numbers are averaged, a game 1 win leads to approximately a 15% increase in winning the series.

https://wegotthiscovered.com/sports/game-7-game-playoff-series-crucial/

Re: Paul Pierce: “It’s over”
« Reply #35 on: April 29, 2019, 06:59:57 AM »

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Listen and I promise this is the truth. The only way the Bucks have a chance against the Celtics is if they somehow fit Miritoc into the starting lineup. My only concerns with the Bucks is and will always be Middleton and Mirotic. Bledsoe is a non-threat, Brooks “can” be a threat the jury is still out on him, Gannis low-medium threat, EVERYONE ELSE IS A NON THREAT. Which is why we should win the series with ease.

Again I’ll say, Mirotic and Middleton can absolutely shred the Celtics wether they are on the court alone or with each other. But that’s about it folks, Celtics in 5 maybe even a sweep 🧹.

Re: Paul Pierce: “It’s over”
« Reply #36 on: April 29, 2019, 07:13:02 AM »

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Quote
From Dan Feldman on Twitter:

Road teams to win Game 1 by 15+ in the last decade:

BOS over MIL in 2019
IND* over CLE in 2018
HOU* over SAS in 2017
LAC* over HOU in 2015
LAC* over OKC in 2014

Winning game one is important because:

Quote
Game 1:
A team with home-court advantage in game 1 has a 53.2% of winning the entire series. A win in game 1 for the home team drives this percentage up by nearly 13% and thus a game 1 win for the home team means they have a pretty good shot (66%). A win for the away team interestingly enough drives their winning percentage up to the same 66% but from an initial 46.8% in game 1. If these numbers are averaged, a game 1 win leads to approximately a 15% increase in winning the series.

https://wegotthiscovered.com/sports/game-7-game-playoff-series-crucial/


makes sense , a home opening first loss is a demoralizing event , you are the favorite by a wide margin at home .  It a major in your head event ....we can be beat in our house , and the winner is confident , we did it once we can do,it again.

Re: Paul Pierce: “It’s over”
« Reply #37 on: April 29, 2019, 07:49:14 AM »

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Listen and I promise this is the truth. The only way the Bucks have a chance against the Celtics is if they somehow fit Miritoc into the starting lineup. My only concerns with the Bucks is and will always be Middleton and Mirotic. Bledsoe is a non-threat, Brooks “can” be a threat the jury is still out on him, Gannis low-medium threat, EVERYONE ELSE IS A NON THREAT. Which is why we should win the series with ease.

Again I’ll say, Mirotic and Middleton can absolutely shred the Celtics wether they are on the court alone or with each other. But that’s about it folks, Celtics in 5 maybe even a sweep 🧹.

I sort of agree w this. TP

Bucks went on their surge in the 2nd with Lopez, Mirotic and Ilasoyva on the floor together. I think a big lineup, but still all 3 point shooters, is successful for the bucks. With Brown potentially being out, if I’m the Bucks coach, Id consider starting Mirotic and sliding gianis to small forward. That curve ball should mess up the Celtics game plan a bit.

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Re: Paul Pierce: “It’s over”
« Reply #38 on: April 29, 2019, 08:50:41 AM »

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Winning game one is important because:

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Game 1:
A team with home-court advantage in game 1 has a 53.2% of winning the entire series. A win in game 1 for the home team drives this percentage up by nearly 13% and thus a game 1 win for the home team means they have a pretty good shot (66%). A win for the away team interestingly enough drives their winning percentage up to the same 66% but from an initial 46.8% in game 1. If these numbers are averaged, a game 1 win leads to approximately a 15% increase in winning the series.

https://wegotthiscovered.com/sports/game-7-game-playoff-series-crucial/

These stats always boil down to "teams that win games are more likely to win series". Which is true but also very obvious.


It's not over by any stretch but we took a huge step forward and in convincing fashion. Winning Game 2 would be an even bigger one.  In summary,



Re: Paul Pierce: “It’s over”
« Reply #39 on: April 29, 2019, 09:46:17 AM »

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From Dan Feldman on Twitter:

Road teams to win Game 1 by 15+ in the last decade:

BOS over MIL in 2019
IND* over CLE in 2018
HOU* over SAS in 2017
LAC* over HOU in 2015
LAC* over OKC in 2014

*Lost series

With these trivia you always have to wonder why someone selected the criteria they did. For instance, why 15+ and not 20+?

Re: Paul Pierce: “It’s over”
« Reply #40 on: April 29, 2019, 09:53:19 AM »

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From Dan Feldman on Twitter:

Road teams to win Game 1 by 15+ in the last decade:

BOS over MIL in 2019
IND* over CLE in 2018
HOU* over SAS in 2017
LAC* over HOU in 2015
LAC* over OKC in 2014

*Lost series

With these trivia you always have to wonder why someone selected the criteria they did. For instance, why 15+ and not 20+?
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Re: Paul Pierce: “It’s over”
« Reply #41 on: April 29, 2019, 10:25:05 AM »

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For me the key was that in addition to Horford and even Baynes playing very tough D, Stevens clearly had a well practiced scheme ready to neutralize Giannis's ability to spin off pressure. The wings were always anticipating his spins and digging down at Giannis dribble immediately off the pivot. He didn't have a count to turn and read the pressure. The timing was perfect all game long, and it made for a number of awkward fumbles in the lane.

It will be interesting to see what Milwaukee can do about it. The only time the Bucks were successful was in the second quarter when they hit a number of tough threes. Without Brogdon, they are in trouble unless we lose our discipline and give them a game or two with sloppy play.


Re: Paul Pierce: “It’s over”
« Reply #42 on: April 29, 2019, 10:43:38 AM »

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I love Paul and his optimism, but it's crazy to already deem the series "over."


Re: Paul Pierce: “It’s over”
« Reply #43 on: April 29, 2019, 10:47:02 AM »

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I love Paul and his optimism, but it's crazy to already deem the series "over."

Yep.

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Re: Paul Pierce: “It’s over”
« Reply #44 on: April 29, 2019, 10:48:47 AM »

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It's far from over but yesterday certainly provided some optimism for the series. 

We don't know what adjustments MIL will make but you'll have to assume they're coming.   Game 2 is still in MIL so they're gonna have that homecourt behind them.   I expect Giannis to play better.  I also expect more of those "non-calls" from yesterday to probably be called in Game 2 which will send him to the line more.   Also, Celtics shot 54% yesterday. I have to imagine that'll regress a bit in Game 2. 

However, the Celtics seem to have the right gameplan to match up well with MIL.  If they keep up this defensive intensity and the offense continues with fluidity and movement, the Celtics will certainly advance to the conference finals.


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