Pacers (0-0) at Celtics (0-0) Round 1 Game 1 4/14/19

[Phantom255x]

Kyrie is 3-10. Horford is 1-5. Brown 0-3. The team overall is shooting 32% and they're only down 7.

This is a winnable game. The Celtics should still win this one but they have to come out of the half more assertive and taking better care of the ball. Play like grown-ups.

Horford in particular missed some wide open shots that I feel he usually makes.

[Kaz]

Danny had all types of chances to get a rim protector but noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

The champs for the past 6 seasons has not had a rim protector.

...unless you consider Tristan Thompson or Dreymod Green as “rum protectors”

Sure, the Warriors aren't monsters on the glass, but they have the talent to make up for it.

Thompson, Love, and Lebron can all clean up the glass quite well and that advantage actually played a good part in beating the Celtics and being competitive against the Warriors.

[CelticSooner]

The mentality sucks, Chuck is right.

[Big333223]

REVELATION!   We are a crappy three point shooting team.

I wonder if the guys and coaching staff knows it...

How many times do we have to go over this stuff?

The Celtics this season ranked 7th in both 3PA and 3P% this season. They are a quality 3 point shooting team. Just because you happen to not like so many 3 pointers doesn't mean you get to make up reality.

[Ogaju]

Danny had all types of chances to get a rim protector but noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

The champs for the past 6 seasons has not had a rim protector.

...unless you consider Tristan Thompson or Dreymod Green as “rum protectors”

You better go and check your rosters again...... GSW always had rim protect. CAVS had good rim protection too.

Golden State definitely did, but Cleveland did not. Thompson is not a good rim protector

The ONLY Cav win in that series of chips was due to WHAT??? People remember the Kyrie winning shot BUT always forget the RIM PROTECT that led to that SHOT.

LBJ can be a rim protector when he wants to be.

[keevsnick]

Guys playing hard, like a chicken with their heads cut off.

I think it will settle down. Offensively they are making the right passes. Just missed some shots.

There is something missing, even with the ball movememt.

I really dont think so. They've allowed 38 points with 4 minutes left in the quarter. In todays NBA thats pretty good. Mostly its just the turnovers. Horford had a bad pass. Brown a push off. Tatum lost the ball on the dribble twice. Kyrie couldn't inbound it. Hayward threw one away. Its led to 11 of the Pacers point. If they tighten that up this game will swing fast.

The issue as I see it is that sometimes ball movement is related to guys not taking shots that the should take.  We need guys that will take the first open shot off the drive, not pump fake and drive again.  Lots of those passes are useless.

Ya I haven't seen that. Gordon has been hesitant at times and maybe he's passes out of some shots but he also has 4 assist at the half so at worst it hasn't hurt them. Mostly they are just shooting terribly and turning it over a lot. If either ne of  those things course corrects  the C's will win.

Ive seen it some.  Drives me nuts.  But the problem is that we don’t have spot up shooters that will take and make those shots consistently.

Actually, we do. We were 7th in the league in 3 pnt percentage during the regular season. I guess my question is, what would you rather them do? Everybody says go to the basket, but outside of Jaylen, sometimes Tatum and occasionally Irving there is nobody on the team actually good at both getting there, and making it when they do. They are what they are offensively. 

[jpotter33]

Many people on this board: "It'S oKaY tHaT sMaRt Is OuT fOr ThE fIrSt RoUnD dUe To A dUmB dEcIsIoN tO pLaY hIm In A mEaNiNgLeSs GaMe! We'Ll HaNdLe InDy WiThOuT hIm!" We should still win this series, but people thinking this would be a cakewalk without Smart are crazy.

We clearly are struggling without that secondary playmaker out there in Smart. It might be time to start Hayward over Tatum, as he can provide you with Tatum's scoring while also providing the passing and playmaking to allow Kyrie to play off the ball, which neither Brown nor Tatum can provide you. And I prefer Brown at the 2 rather than going big with one of Tatum or Hayward there, as I don't think they are quick enough to guard as 2's.

Yes, that's what everyone that disagrees with you is thinking. Everyone that doesn't think you should sit everyone for the last two games is actually thrilled that Smart got injured, we love seeing guys not play

I mean, what? lol

First, no, literally - not figuratively, literally - many people on here were saying just this thing. It's not me speculating; this is literally what people here were saying, i.e. that Smart is not a big loss for this series due to it being Indy and us still having more overall talent.

Second, again, this is another fallacy - specifically a strawman this time - to say that I think that people are "actually thrilled that Smart got injured." That's asinine. I certainly don't think that. I just think that people are clearly wrong based on rationalizations that they are creating in order to protect Brad.

[blink]

Our team chemistry / intangibles really suck right now.  Indiana playing together and giving the kind of effort the C’s did in last years playoffs. 

Brad needs to shorten the rotation, ie have an actual playoff rotation.  This looked like any random regular season game during the year.  Theis and Rozier need to play SPOT minutes only.  I honestly expected to see Yabu and Semi the way Brad was setting his rotations.

[droopdog7]

REVELATION!   We are a crappy three point shooting team.

I wonder if the guys and coaching staff knows it...

Well, if this is the case then it’s a big player weakness.  Not a coaching issue.

...if there is no accountability, then it is a coaching staff issue as well.

Don’t get me wrong; I am a big Brad Stevens apologist.

But the issue, if you’re right, is that we can’t shoot.

[gouki88]

Danny had all types of chances to get a rim protector but noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

The champs for the past 6 seasons has not had a rim protector.

...unless you consider Tristan Thompson or Dreymod Green as “rum protectors”

You better go and check your rosters again...... GSW always had rim protect. CAVS had good rim protection too.

Golden State definitely did, but Cleveland did not. Thompson is not a good rim protector

The ONLY Cav win in that series of chips was due to WHAT??? People remember the Kyrie winning shot BUT always forget the RIM PROTECT that led to that SHOT.

If you're saying one chase down block = consistently good rim protection then I don't know what to tell you

[coco]

Danny had all types of chances to get a rim protector but noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

The champs for the past 6 seasons has not had a rim protector.

...unless you consider Tristan Thompson or Dreymod Green as “rum protectors”

You better go and check your rosters again...... GSW always had rim protect. CAVS had good rim protection too.

Not sure who are you referring to.  I can’t come up with a name.  Do you have someone in mind from CAVS or GSW championship teams?

[gouki88]

Danny had all types of chances to get a rim protector but noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

The champs for the past 6 seasons has not had a rim protector.

...unless you consider Tristan Thompson or Dreymod Green as “rum protectors”

You better go and check your rosters again...... GSW always had rim protect. CAVS had good rim protection too.

Not sure who are you referring to.  I can’t come up with a name.  Do you have someone in mind from CAVS or GSW championship teams?

Bogut...

[Ogaju]

Danny had all types of chances to get a rim protector but noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

The champs for the past 6 seasons has not had a rim protector.

...unless you consider Tristan Thompson or Dreymod Green as “rum protectors”

You better go and check your rosters again...... GSW always had rim protect. CAVS had good rim protection too.

Not sure who are you referring to.  I can’t come up with a name.  Do you have someone in mind from CAVS or GSW championship teams?

LBJ is a rim protector. TT is a rim protector.

Javelle McGee RIM protector...  The guy that hurt Kawahi = rim protector

[jpotter33]

Alright, seven points is nothing in the nba.  I suppose we should start Morris but then we’re left within a two guard.  Anything but brown, who’s looked awful.

I think you have to start Hayward, wherever that position may be. We're sorely missing the secondary playmaker out there.

[droopdog7]

Guys playing hard, like a chicken with their heads cut off.

I think it will settle down. Offensively they are making the right passes. Just missed some shots.

There is something missing, even with the ball movememt.

I really dont think so. They've allowed 38 points with 4 minutes left in the quarter. In todays NBA thats pretty good. Mostly its just the turnovers. Horford had a bad pass. Brown a push off. Tatum lost the ball on the dribble twice. Kyrie couldn't inbound it. Hayward threw one away. Its led to 11 of the Pacers point. If they tighten that up this game will swing fast.

The issue as I see it is that sometimes ball movement is related to guys not taking shots that the should take.  We need guys that will take the first open shot off the drive, not pump fake and drive again.  Lots of those passes are useless.

Ya I haven't seen that. Gordon has been hesitant at times and maybe he's passes out of some shots but he also has 4 assist at the half so at worst it hasn't hurt them. Mostly they are just shooting terribly and turning it over a lot. If either ne of  those things course corrects  the C's will win.

Ive seen it some.  Drives me nuts.  But the problem is that we don’t have spot up shooters that will take and make those shots consistently.

Actually, we do. We were 7th in the league in 3 pnt percentage during the regular season. I guess my question is, what would you rather them do? Everybody says go to the basket, but outside of Jaylen, sometimes Tatum and occasionally Irving there is nobody on the team actually good at both getting there, and making it when they do. They are what they are offensively.

My emphasis is on having spot up shooters, which we don’t have.  This is more a discussion of ball movement and chemistry.