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Re: NBA 2019 Playoffs Thread
« Reply #2805 on: June 08, 2019, 01:11:08 AM »

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leonard is way better than current lebron. The cavs had a second all star in love (can't say he is worse than lowry) and a bunch of traditionally excellent role players that balled out in this years playoffs (hill and hood come to mind), plus thompson etc. Man, tough series for lebron fan boys. I believe people were still arguing a 35 year old lebron was still better than leonard a month ago. Woof.

Re: NBA 2019 Playoffs Thread
« Reply #2806 on: June 08, 2019, 01:16:48 AM »

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leonard is way better than current lebron. The cavs had a second all star in love (can't say he is worse than lowry) and a bunch of traditionally excellent role players that balled out in this years playoffs (hill and hood come to mind), plus thompson etc. Man, tough series for lebron fan boys. I believe people were still arguing a 35 year old lebron was still better than leonard a month ago. Woof.
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Re: NBA 2019 Playoffs Thread
« Reply #2807 on: June 08, 2019, 01:18:59 AM »

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Kawhi actually holds and dribbles the ball more than Kyrie does.

Kawhi can make himself a decoy and play as a role player when needed. Something Kyrie couldn't. Don't get me started with his defense and off-ball movement.

Don't worry, he will be gone in 2019 & you guys will go back to winning your 50 games never coming close to title contention.

Curry could not carry a team with Klay & Draymond against Toronto, what the heck makes you think Kyrie was carrying  a team full of lesser players?

Who is winning titles without at least two superstars? In like the last 30 years it happened once, Detroit. Kawhi is pulling this off because the other superstar is hurt.

 Ya'll need to get over it, your team was never that good. You lost  dang near all your road games on the path to your magical 2018 playoff run in which our lottery team bounced you in 7 lol.

You lost to a guy on the decline who can't make the postseason out west, and a now lottery team, let that sink in.

On topic, KD can salvage this season. He is that good.

Say what you want about the Celtics and Kyrie the bottom line is Kyrie Irving cannot carry Kawhi Leonard's jock when it comes to leading a team.

Agree with you there. Kawhi is on another level to Kyrie as a player because he can defend five positions on the defensive end and he has a quiet confidence and composure that rubs off on his teammates. Just pointing out that their actual offensive play styles are similar in terms of "dribbling the air out of the ball". Kawhi said that Nick Nurse has let him do that and find mismatches and iso much more than Pop did, so this season, particularly these playoffs as his usage has gone up, he looks like the closest thing to Michael Jordan in style of play in the league right now. He knows when to pass out of double teams, his teammates understand and accept their roles, he has a Pippen in Pascal Siakam, and he's a killer defender.
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Re: NBA 2019 Playoffs Thread
« Reply #2808 on: June 08, 2019, 01:23:17 AM »

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What about Nick Nurse? Heck of a coaching job!!!!!

Re: NBA 2019 Playoffs Thread
« Reply #2809 on: June 08, 2019, 01:25:45 AM »

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Kawhi actually holds and dribbles the ball more than Kyrie does.

Kawhi can make himself a decoy and play as a role player when needed. Something Kyrie couldn't. Don't get me started with his defense and off-ball movement.

Don't worry, he will be gone in 2019 & you guys will go back to winning your 50 games never coming close to title contention.

Curry could not carry a team with Klay & Draymond against Toronto, what the heck makes you think Kyrie was carrying  a team full of lesser players?

Who is winning titles without at least two superstars? In like the last 30 years it happened once, Detroit. Kawhi is pulling this off because the other superstar is hurt.

 Ya'll need to get over it, your team was never that good. You lost  dang near all your road games on the path to your magical 2018 playoff run in which our lottery team bounced you in 7 lol.

You lost to a guy on the decline who can't make the postseason out west, and a now lottery team, let that sink in.

On topic, KD can salvage this season. He is that good.

Say what you want about the Celtics and Kyrie the bottom line is Kyrie Irving cannot carry Kawhi Leonard's jock when it comes to leading a team.

Agree with you there. Kawhi is on another level to Kyrie as a player because he can defend five positions on the defensive end and he has a quiet confidence and composure that rubs off on his teammates. Just pointing out that their actual offensive play styles are similar in terms of "dribbling the air out of the ball". Kawhi said that Nick Nurse has let him do that and find mismatches and iso much more than Pop did, so this season, particularly these playoffs as his usage has gone up, he looks like the closest thing to Michael Jordan in style of play in the league right now. He knows when to pass out of double teams, his teammates understand and accept their roles, he has a Pippen in Pascal Siakam, and he's a killer defender.
Dribbling the air out of the ball implies that you're dribbling without a purpose, or that you're dribbling to no avail. Kawhi isn't that, yes he dribbles a lot, but he does that to get to his spots and create at a high level and efficiency, unlike Kyrie.
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Re: NBA 2019 Playoffs Thread
« Reply #2810 on: June 08, 2019, 01:26:04 AM »

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What about Nick Nurse? Heck of a coaching job!!!!!

He should have won Coach of the Year, not Mike Budenholzer.

Hope Masai Ujiri wins Executive of the Year too. All of those midseason trades and offseason moves. And drafting VanFleet and Siakam in which they've become very good players now.


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« Reply #2811 on: June 08, 2019, 01:27:00 AM »

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Safe to say the Raptors clearly won the DeRozan/Leonard trade even if it was a one-year rental.


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Re: NBA 2019 Playoffs Thread
« Reply #2812 on: June 08, 2019, 01:30:06 AM »

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What about Nick Nurse? Heck of a coaching job!!!!!

He should have won Coach of the Year, not Mike Budenholzer.

Hope Masai Ujiri wins Executive of the Year too. All of those midseason trades and offseason moves. And drafting VanFleet and Siakam in which they've become very good players now.

He is a heck of a team executive he has built other teams in the NBA too.

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« Reply #2813 on: June 08, 2019, 01:31:44 AM »

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Safe to say the Raptors clearly won the DeRozan/Leonard trade even if it was a one-year rental.

Did the Spurs get anything more considering they also gave up Danny Green.

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« Reply #2814 on: June 08, 2019, 01:33:36 AM »

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Kawhi actually holds and dribbles the ball more than Kyrie does.

Kawhi can make himself a decoy and play as a role player when needed. Something Kyrie couldn't. Don't get me started with his defense and off-ball movement.

Don't worry, he will be gone in 2019 & you guys will go back to winning your 50 games never coming close to title contention.

Curry could not carry a team with Klay & Draymond against Toronto, what the heck makes you think Kyrie was carrying  a team full of lesser players?

Who is winning titles without at least two superstars? In like the last 30 years it happened once, Detroit. Kawhi is pulling this off because the other superstar is hurt.

 Ya'll need to get over it, your team was never that good. You lost  dang near all your road games on the path to your magical 2018 playoff run in which our lottery team bounced you in 7 lol.

You lost to a guy on the decline who can't make the postseason out west, and a now lottery team, let that sink in.

On topic, KD can salvage this season. He is that good.

You're just assuming, not solid proof to claim your so called prediction. Yes Curry got exposed for what he is without Durant. But don't pretend that both Klay and Draymond are MVP caliber players, neither they are just nameless scrubs. Curry followed the system and succeed with it because it covered his weaknesses. I always argued about people that Steph will not succeed in carrying teams like the Cavs, Knicks or any lottery teams, compared to the likes of Lebron, Giannis or Embiid.

Kyrie was reportedly going his own despite Brad calling the plays. You act like Kyrie improved this team when in fact, its quite the opposite as their record and post season run suggests. He's no Kawhi, KD or even AD.

How many teams that overpaid underwhelming talents have won championship? Cavs weren't taxpayers before they won in 2016. So was 2015 Warriors. Kawhi wasn't paid max in 2014 and Chandler was an expiring free agent in 2011.

Re: NBA 2019 Playoffs Thread
« Reply #2815 on: June 08, 2019, 01:37:08 AM »

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What about Nick Nurse? Heck of a coaching job!!!!!

He should have won Coach of the Year, not Mike Budenholzer.

Hope Masai Ujiri wins Executive of the Year too. All of those midseason trades and offseason moves. And drafting VanFleet and Siakam in which they've become very good players now.

He is a heck of a team executive he has built other teams in the NBA too.

He have done good job back in Denver after they shipped Carmelo to the Knicks. They arguably have more success than New York after that trade.

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« Reply #2816 on: June 08, 2019, 01:39:13 AM »

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Safe to say the Raptors clearly won the DeRozan/Leonard trade even if it was a one-year rental.

Did the Spurs get anything more considering they also gave up Danny Green.

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Re: NBA 2019 Playoffs Thread
« Reply #2817 on: June 08, 2019, 01:45:45 AM »

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Kawhi actually holds and dribbles the ball more than Kyrie does.

Kawhi can make himself a decoy and play as a role player when needed. Something Kyrie couldn't. Don't get me started with his defense and off-ball movement.

Don't worry, he will be gone in 2019 & you guys will go back to winning your 50 games never coming close to title contention.

Curry could not carry a team with Klay & Draymond against Toronto, what the heck makes you think Kyrie was carrying  a team full of lesser players?

Who is winning titles without at least two superstars? In like the last 30 years it happened once, Detroit. Kawhi is pulling this off because the other superstar is hurt.

 Ya'll need to get over it, your team was never that good. You lost  dang near all your road games on the path to your magical 2018 playoff run in which our lottery team bounced you in 7 lol.

You lost to a guy on the decline who can't make the postseason out west, and a now lottery team, let that sink in.

On topic, KD can salvage this season. He is that good.

Say what you want about the Celtics and Kyrie the bottom line is Kyrie Irving cannot carry Kawhi Leonard's jock when it comes to leading a team.

Agree with you there. Kawhi is on another level to Kyrie as a player because he can defend five positions on the defensive end and he has a quiet confidence and composure that rubs off on his teammates. Just pointing out that their actual offensive play styles are similar in terms of "dribbling the air out of the ball". Kawhi said that Nick Nurse has let him do that and find mismatches and iso much more than Pop did, so this season, particularly these playoffs as his usage has gone up, he looks like the closest thing to Michael Jordan in style of play in the league right now. He knows when to pass out of double teams, his teammates understand and accept their roles, he has a Pippen in Pascal Siakam, and he's a killer defender.
Dribbling the air out of the ball implies that you're dribbling without a purpose, or that you're dribbling to no avail. Kawhi isn't that, yes he dribbles a lot, but he does that to get to his spots and create at a high level and efficiency, unlike Kyrie.

Well the purpose becomes a subjective thing...I'm considering all high-usage players that hold the ball for long periods of time to be in that category. I know it's a pejorative term that people have used to describe Kyrie because they want other players to have the ball too. What someone finds purposeful someone else might find pointless.
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Re: NBA 2019 Playoffs Thread
« Reply #2818 on: June 08, 2019, 06:24:15 AM »

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Kawhi actually holds and dribbles the ball more than Kyrie does.

Kawhi can make himself a decoy and play as a role player when needed. Something Kyrie couldn't. Don't get me started with his defense and off-ball movement.

Don't worry, he will be gone in 2019 & you guys will go back to winning your 50 games never coming close to title contention.

Curry could not carry a team with Klay & Draymond against Toronto, what the heck makes you think Kyrie was carrying  a team full of lesser players?

Who is winning titles without at least two superstars? In like the last 30 years it happened once, Detroit. Kawhi is pulling this off because the other superstar is hurt.

 Ya'll need to get over it, your team was never that good. You lost  dang near all your road games on the path to your magical 2018 playoff run in which our lottery team bounced you in 7 lol.

You lost to a guy on the decline who can't make the postseason out west, and a now lottery team, let that sink in.

On topic, KD can salvage this season. He is that good.

Say what you want about the Celtics and Kyrie the bottom line is Kyrie Irving cannot carry Kawhi Leonard's jock when it comes to leading a team.

Agree with you there. Kawhi is on another level to Kyrie as a player because he can defend five positions on the defensive end and he has a quiet confidence and composure that rubs off on his teammates. Just pointing out that their actual offensive play styles are similar in terms of "dribbling the air out of the ball". Kawhi said that Nick Nurse has let him do that and find mismatches and iso much more than Pop did, so this season, particularly these playoffs as his usage has gone up, he looks like the closest thing to Michael Jordan in style of play in the league right now. He knows when to pass out of double teams, his teammates understand and accept their roles, he has a Pippen in Pascal Siakam, and he's a killer defender.
Dribbling the air out of the ball implies that you're dribbling without a purpose, or that you're dribbling to no avail. Kawhi isn't that, yes he dribbles a lot, but he does that to get to his spots and create at a high level and efficiency, unlike Kyrie.

Excellent post Somebody.  This is the difference. 

As I watch this Toronto team, that is the thing I like most, Kawhi's efficient approach.  Kyrie is Kyrie, he can blow the roof off the stadium when he's on....when he's not on it can be painful.  But I keep hoping Jayson Tatum is watching Kawhi closely.  Tatum will never be as strong as Kawhi, but he can still learn a lot about how to create efficient, low level of difficulty shots, using time with the ball more wisely instead of putting teammates to sleep with bedazzling moves.  Jaylen Brown is ahead of Tatum in this area...simpler approach on offense. 

Re: NBA 2019 Playoffs Thread
« Reply #2819 on: June 08, 2019, 07:34:21 AM »

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leonard is way better than current lebron. The cavs had a second all star in love (can't say he is worse than lowry) and a bunch of traditionally excellent role players that balled out in this years playoffs (hill and hood come to mind), plus thompson etc. Man, tough series for lebron fan boys. I believe people were still arguing a 35 year old lebron was still better than leonard a month ago. Woof.

lebron needs him to win and realizes most teams are better with Kawhi than anything Lebron can put on the floor .  Lebron can score but he is too old to play both sides of the court equal.  Kawhi can still defend at a all star level ,  Bron is out of wind dragging saving his next burst for an offensive play .