Irving has missed 9 games and won't play vs the 76ers - injury prone?

[Androslav]

He might be the locker room issue and team seems play better when he is out

Last game:
68:40 with Irving before he got injured
44:83 after injury

I think this team plays better without Irving against Chicago's and Atlanta's,
he usually rests against weaker teams, that's why it leaves this impression.
But against any reasonable team, we are much much stronger with him on the floor.

[Silky]

How many people here go to work whem they are puking, or have diarrhea?

How many people here go to work when a family member dies?

Hoe many people here go to work when your boss tells you to take the day off with pay?


God.....

[Fierce1]

Of course he's injury prone.  He missed the Cavs finals with a knee injury.  He missed last year's playoff run.  He's topped 72 games in his 8 year NBA career once.  Yes, he is injury prone.

That's why I wouldn't put all my eggs in a Kryie / AD basket.  AD is big-time injury prone as well.

He missed most of the Cavs Finals in 2015.

Kyrie was in the Finals in 2016 when he hit that game wining 3-pointer over Steph Curry in Game 7.
That's a game winning shot in a Game 7!

Who was in the 2017 Finals?
Kyrie, right?

If you want an example of injury prone, it's Derrick Rose, not Kyrie Irving.

[Fierce1]

In two months Kyrie will be in the playoffs for the first time without Lebron James.

Let's see what Kyrie does when he's the #1 guy in the postseason.

I think Kyrie will make the doubters eat crow.

[Big333223]

First, I don't think the Celtics can trust that he can stay healthy for the long term.  He has an injury history which is continuing to be evident this year.

Second, I didn't like Irving calling Lebron to apologize basically throwing his younger teammates under the bus by saying he didn't understand how tough it was on Lebron when he played with the Cavs with Lebron having to deal with young teammates at that time.

Maybe this is why I get so defensive of Irving. Your first point is a completely valid criticism/worry and is exactly what the thread title suggests. You then immediately pivot to a completely unrelated point about Irving's personality. The Lebron thing is a weeks old non-controversy that you feel compelled to bring up again... why? The two things have nothing to do with one another.

It's not that you can't question Irving's comments (of course you can), it's that you've created a thread about one thing and seem to not be able to help throwing in a dig about something unrelated that's more about his personality. It's things like this that make me feel like a lot of the Irving criticism is personal, not logical.

[Moranis]

Of course he's injury prone.  He missed the Cavs finals with a knee injury.  He missed last year's playoff run.  He's topped 72 games in his 8 year NBA career once.  Yes, he is injury prone.

That's why I wouldn't put all my eggs in a Kryie / AD basket.  AD is big-time injury prone as well.

He missed most of the Cavs Finals in 2015.

Kyrie was in the Finals in 2016 when he hit that game wining 3-pointer over Steph Curry in Game 7.
That's a game winning shot in a Game 7!

Who was in the 2017 Finals?
Kyrie, right?

If you want an example of injury prone, it's Derrick Rose, not Kyrie Irving.

Those aren't mutually exclusive, i.e. both Rose and Irving can be injury prone.  In fact, they are.  Rose has missed about 1 in 3 regular season games (he missed a whole season greatly skewing those numbers).  Irving has missed about 1 in 5 regular season games.  Not as many as Rose, but still far more than a player typically should, and it isn't because Irving had 1 injury and then missed a bunch of games.  He consistently and regularly misses regular season games in every single season of his career.  Irving has also missed an entire post season and a large portion of another post season or has missed approximately 1 in 3 post season games available to him.

Irving is injury prone.  There really isn't any way around that.  The wear on those knees is only going to get worse. 

[MikeB12]

Boy, didn't know we couldn't make any other comments on a thread that were not exactly related to the subject line.  Getting pretty technical and ridiculous in my opinion.

There is no way Anthony Davis comes to the Celtics even with Kyrie - just can't see it happening.  Davis will go to either LA team, New York but not Boston.  Anyway, doubt Kyrie will be around if the Celtics don't make the finals.

MikeB

[Ogaju]

I do not understand the basis for the argument that if Cs fo not make finals then Irvin is not coming back.

[SparzWizard]

He might be the locker room issue and team seems play better when he is out

Last game:
68:40 with Irving before he got injured
44:83 after injury

I think this team plays better without Irving against Chicago's and Atlanta's,
he usually rests against weaker teams, that's why it leaves this impression.
But against any reasonable team, we are much much stronger with him on the floor.

Yeah this team gets blown out by the OKCs, Golden States, or Philadelphias without Kyrie Irving.

[DefenseWinsChamps]

Of course he's injury prone.  He missed the Cavs finals with a knee injury.  He missed last year's playoff run.  He's topped 72 games in his 8 year NBA career once.  Yes, he is injury prone.

That's why I wouldn't put all my eggs in a Kryie / AD basket.  AD is big-time injury prone as well.

He missed most of the Cavs Finals in 2015.

Kyrie was in the Finals in 2016 when he hit that game wining 3-pointer over Steph Curry in Game 7.
That's a game winning shot in a Game 7!

Who was in the 2017 Finals?
Kyrie, right?

If you want an example of injury prone, it's Derrick Rose, not Kyrie Irving.

Those aren't mutually exclusive, i.e. both Rose and Irving can be injury prone.  In fact, they are.  Rose has missed about 1 in 3 regular season games (he missed a whole season greatly skewing those numbers).  Irving has missed about 1 in 5 regular season games.  Not as many as Rose, but still far more than a player typically should, and it isn't because Irving had 1 injury and then missed a bunch of games.  He consistently and regularly misses regular season games in every single season of his career.  Irving has also missed an entire post season and a large portion of another post season or has missed approximately 1 in 3 post season games available to him.

Irving is injury prone.  There really isn't any way around that.  The wear on those knees is only going to get worse.

Irving is not injury-prone. There is a way around that. The wear on his knees aren't necessarily going to get worse.

Most stars sit for portions of the season. Most of the games Irving has missed this year have been fake injuries to prevent his minutes from adding up before the playoffs.

Irving may be injured more than some players, but "injury-prone" carries a lot of connotations that aren't necessarily true.

[Moranis]

Of course he's injury prone.  He missed the Cavs finals with a knee injury.  He missed last year's playoff run.  He's topped 72 games in his 8 year NBA career once.  Yes, he is injury prone.

That's why I wouldn't put all my eggs in a Kryie / AD basket.  AD is big-time injury prone as well.

He missed most of the Cavs Finals in 2015.

Kyrie was in the Finals in 2016 when he hit that game wining 3-pointer over Steph Curry in Game 7.
That's a game winning shot in a Game 7!

Who was in the 2017 Finals?
Kyrie, right?

If you want an example of injury prone, it's Derrick Rose, not Kyrie Irving.

Those aren't mutually exclusive, i.e. both Rose and Irving can be injury prone.  In fact, they are.  Rose has missed about 1 in 3 regular season games (he missed a whole season greatly skewing those numbers).  Irving has missed about 1 in 5 regular season games.  Not as many as Rose, but still far more than a player typically should, and it isn't because Irving had 1 injury and then missed a bunch of games.  He consistently and regularly misses regular season games in every single season of his career.  Irving has also missed an entire post season and a large portion of another post season or has missed approximately 1 in 3 post season games available to him.

Irving is injury prone.  There really isn't any way around that.  The wear on those knees is only going to get worse.

Irving is not injury-prone. There is a way around that. The wear on his knees aren't necessarily going to get worse.

Most stars sit for portions of the season. Most of the games Irving has missed this year have been fake injuries to prevent his minutes from adding up before the playoffs.

Irving may be injured more than some players, but "injury-prone" carries a lot of connotations that aren't necessarily true.

4 years ago, people were making pictures with all his injuries on it

like the one here: https://www.thinglink.com/scene/659141394132107265

Some of them are a bit silly like his back tightness where he missed a game, but there are a lot of different multiple week injuries, and that was 4 years ago.  He has since added a few more. 

It just seems strange to me to say a guy that misses approximately 20% of his games over an 8 year career as a result of several different injuries isn't injury prone.  Kyrie Irving is absolutely injury prone and it should absolutely be a concern with giving him 5 years, 180 million dollars.

[celticsclay]

Of course he's injury prone.  He missed the Cavs finals with a knee injury.  He missed last year's playoff run.  He's topped 72 games in his 8 year NBA career once.  Yes, he is injury prone.

That's why I wouldn't put all my eggs in a Kryie / AD basket.  AD is big-time injury prone as well.

He missed most of the Cavs Finals in 2015.

Kyrie was in the Finals in 2016 when he hit that game wining 3-pointer over Steph Curry in Game 7.
That's a game winning shot in a Game 7!

Who was in the 2017 Finals?
Kyrie, right?

If you want an example of injury prone, it's Derrick Rose, not Kyrie Irving.

Those aren't mutually exclusive, i.e. both Rose and Irving can be injury prone.  In fact, they are.  Rose has missed about 1 in 3 regular season games (he missed a whole season greatly skewing those numbers).  Irving has missed about 1 in 5 regular season games.  Not as many as Rose, but still far more than a player typically should, and it isn't because Irving had 1 injury and then missed a bunch of games.  He consistently and regularly misses regular season games in every single season of his career.  Irving has also missed an entire post season and a large portion of another post season or has missed approximately 1 in 3 post season games available to him.

Irving is injury prone.  There really isn't any way around that.  The wear on those knees is only going to get worse.

Irving is not injury-prone. There is a way around that. The wear on his knees aren't necessarily going to get worse.

Most stars sit for portions of the season. Most of the games Irving has missed this year have been fake injuries to prevent his minutes from adding up before the playoffs.

Irving may be injured more than some players, but "injury-prone" carries a lot of connotations that aren't necessarily true.

4 years ago, people were making pictures with all his injuries on it

like the one here: https://www.thinglink.com/scene/659141394132107265

Some of them are a bit silly like his back tightness where he missed a game, but there are a lot of different multiple week injuries, and that was 4 years ago.  He has since added a few more. 

It just seems strange to me to say a guy that misses approximately 20% of his games over an 8 year career as a result of several different injuries isn't injury prone.  Kyrie Irving is absolutely injury prone and it should absolutely be a concern with giving him 5 years, 180 million dollars.

I think it is kind of a concern with just about all players though right? Jimmy Butler has been showing signs of getting beat up the last few seasons. Leonard obviously had a major issues last year and is still having his time managed year to year. Davis has obviously missed a lot of time with injuries.

Outside of a few freaks like Lebron this is a concern for just about all players the Celtics could conceivably add this offseason.

[TheReaLPuba]

He might be the locker room issue and team seems play better when he is out

This is another outdated and statistically provably incorrect thing to say

Although this is last year.....

https://hardwoodhoudini.com/2018/09/02/kyrie-irving-make-boston-celtics-better/

Looks like Rozier does enough to justify a starters role.

[DefenseWinsChamps]

Of course he's injury prone.  He missed the Cavs finals with a knee injury.  He missed last year's playoff run.  He's topped 72 games in his 8 year NBA career once.  Yes, he is injury prone.

That's why I wouldn't put all my eggs in a Kryie / AD basket.  AD is big-time injury prone as well.

He missed most of the Cavs Finals in 2015.

Kyrie was in the Finals in 2016 when he hit that game wining 3-pointer over Steph Curry in Game 7.
That's a game winning shot in a Game 7!

Who was in the 2017 Finals?
Kyrie, right?

If you want an example of injury prone, it's Derrick Rose, not Kyrie Irving.

Those aren't mutually exclusive, i.e. both Rose and Irving can be injury prone.  In fact, they are.  Rose has missed about 1 in 3 regular season games (he missed a whole season greatly skewing those numbers).  Irving has missed about 1 in 5 regular season games.  Not as many as Rose, but still far more than a player typically should, and it isn't because Irving had 1 injury and then missed a bunch of games.  He consistently and regularly misses regular season games in every single season of his career.  Irving has also missed an entire post season and a large portion of another post season or has missed approximately 1 in 3 post season games available to him.

Irving is injury prone.  There really isn't any way around that.  The wear on those knees is only going to get worse.

Irving is not injury-prone. There is a way around that. The wear on his knees aren't necessarily going to get worse.

Most stars sit for portions of the season. Most of the games Irving has missed this year have been fake injuries to prevent his minutes from adding up before the playoffs.

Irving may be injured more than some players, but "injury-prone" carries a lot of connotations that aren't necessarily true.

4 years ago, people were making pictures with all his injuries on it

like the one here: https://www.thinglink.com/scene/659141394132107265

Some of them are a bit silly like his back tightness where he missed a game, but there are a lot of different multiple week injuries, and that was 4 years ago.  He has since added a few more. 

It just seems strange to me to say a guy that misses approximately 20% of his games over an 8 year career as a result of several different injuries isn't injury prone.  Kyrie Irving is absolutely injury prone and it should absolutely be a concern with giving him 5 years, 180 million dollars.

Kyrie Irving is absolutely not injury-prone. Injury-prone carries negative connotations that aren't true of Irving.

[CelticsQuestFor18]

I just hope after the All-Star break he's healthy and can go for the final stretch plus playoffs. If there is still lingering problems after the break then that's an issue.