Gordon starting to turn the corner?

[gouki88]

Another regression vs the Thunder.

3/2/3 in 24 minutes.

Wrong direction, Gordo!

This team needs you.

Another meh game for our beloved max player.
He is just not makng any progress at all.
Still passive, drives to pass, and shoots less than 6x per game.
nearer and nearer towards a bust of a season.

This season is a pretty shortsighted concern in regards to Hayward. If you ignored the 2 major surgeries and lack of a real offseason and preseason then maybe it would make sense, but that would be ignorant

[liam]

Another regression vs the Thunder.

3/2/3 in 24 minutes.

Wrong direction, Gordo!

This team needs you.

Another meh game for our beloved max player.
He is just not makng any progress at all.
Still passive, drives to pass, and shoots less than 6x per game.
nearer and nearer towards a bust of a season.

This season is a pretty shortsighted concern in regards to Hayward. If you ignored the 2 major surgeries and lack of a real offseason and preseason then maybe it would make sense, but that would be ignorant

Yeah, look at what Paul George is doing now. The 1st year he came back he looked terrible...

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

Another regression vs the Thunder.

3/2/3 in 24 minutes.

Wrong direction, Gordo!

This team needs you.

Another meh game for our beloved max player.
He is just not makng any progress at all.
Still passive, drives to pass, and shoots less than 6x per game.
nearer and nearer towards a bust of a season.

This season is a pretty shortsighted concern in regards to Hayward. If you ignored the 2 major surgeries and lack of a real offseason and preseason then maybe it would make sense, but that would be ignorant

Yeah, look at what Paul George is doing now. The 1st year he came back he looked terrible...

gordon will be back to his old self next year

[Silky]

The last thing this team needs is to give a guy afraid to shoot, a guy who passes out of open shots, a guy shooting poor percentages to get MORE touches.

Thats what practice or potentially a different team is for

Practice is a totally different monster than games. Shaq could make 20 FT's in a row in practice, but brick 20 in a row in game. It's about building confidence. He gets more touches against bad teams because it's easier to make up for mistakes, but the offense needs to be more consistent when it comes to him. His team needs to rally around him right now and get him involved. Part of the problem is they don't trust him and wont go to him. But it's better to fail now, lose a couple games to get every one working well together and ready for the playoffs.

Right bow team is clicking.

Everyine but terry and hayward are producing consitantly...but team is winning games.

Its on the 30 mill a year player to get his Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. together not for everyone else stop doing what is winning the team games and cater to Hayward.

He needs to take control of the situation himself.

[SHAQATTACK]

Another regression vs the Thunder.

3/2/3 in 24 minutes.

Wrong direction, Gordo!

This team needs you.

Another meh game for our beloved max player.
He is just not makng any progress at all.
Still passive, drives to pass, and shoots less than 6x per game.
nearer and nearer towards a bust of a season.

This season is a pretty shortsighted concern in regards to Hayward. If you ignored the 2 major surgeries and lack of a real offseason and preseason then maybe it would make sense, but that would be ignorant

Yeah, look at what Paul George is doing now. The 1st year he came back he looked terrible...

Middleton struggled too when he came back to Bucks   wondered if he d be the same.

Gordon will probably get there , maybe not this year.

[Silky]

Another regression vs the Thunder.

3/2/3 in 24 minutes.

Wrong direction, Gordo!

This team needs you.

Another meh game for our beloved max player.
He is just not makng any progress at all.
Still passive, drives to pass, and shoots less than 6x per game.
nearer and nearer towards a bust of a season.

This season is a pretty shortsighted concern in regards to Hayward. If you ignored the 2 major surgeries and lack of a real offseason and preseason then maybe it would make sense, but that would be ignorant

Yeah, look at what Paul George is doing now. The 1st year he came back he looked terrible...

For 6 games.

In a period of time less than 1 year from injury.

Gordon look terrible 16 mo ths after injury.
Paul after 16 minths was putting up allstar numbers.



Now paul and haywards injuries are different...but if going to compare 1 to other in defense of hayward then you will lose that debate

[mctyson]

Hayward played pretty well except offense. He has absolutely zero lift on any types of his shots.

For me the biggest issue is his toughness with the ball.  Keeps letting guys jar it loose with the littlest amount of contact.

[Sophomore]

Another regression vs the Thunder.

3/2/3 in 24 minutes.

Wrong direction, Gordo!

This team needs you.

Another meh game for our beloved max player.
He is just not makng any progress at all.
Still passive, drives to pass, and shoots less than 6x per game.
nearer and nearer towards a bust of a season.

This season is a pretty shortsighted concern in regards to Hayward. If you ignored the 2 major surgeries and lack of a real offseason and preseason then maybe it would make sense, but that would be ignorant

Yeah, look at what Paul George is doing now. The 1st year he came back he looked terrible...

For 6 games.

In a period of time less than 1 year from injury.

Gordon look terrible 16 mo ths after injury.
Paul after 16 minths was putting up allstar numbers.



Now paul and haywards injuries are different...but if going to compare 1 to other in defense of hayward then you will lose that debate

Hard to compare. Remember Gordon needed another procedure in the middle of ‘18, which set him back a few months.

[C3LTSF4N]

Everyone always compares Hayward’s injury to George’s.  I don’t know if I’m missing something but they’re completely different.  Paul George’s was a cleaner break and Gordon’s was on his angle and it affected more ligaments.

Either way they’re different people with different mentalities.  Gordon will get there but it’s going to take longer (obviously) than George. 

[Csfan1984]

Everyone always compares Hayward’s injury to George’s.  I don’t know if I’m missing something but they’re completely different.  Paul George’s was a cleaner break and Gordon’s was on his angle and it affected more ligaments.

Either way they’re different people with different mentalities.  Gordon will get there but it’s going to take longer (obviously) than George.

Closer to the joint the worst the break and recovery

[Chris22]

Celtic fans are the worst.

[ozgod]

This thread will probably be 20 pages by the end of the season because Gordon will have stretches where he will play well, then he will have stretches where he won't. So the people who have it in for Gordon and thought we overpaid for him in the first place will keep their heads down until you get these bad games when they will make pronouncements on what a useless player he is, while the people who support/sympathize/want Gordon to succeed will seize upon good games as more proof that he's finally on the way back. Then he has another bad game and the cycle continues. Such is the life of a sports fan 

I decided to save myself the rollercoaster with Gordon, he is what he is this season, inconsistent, he will have stretches of decent games, and he will have stretches of bad games like tonight. Occasionally he will produce a gem that shows what his ceiling is, but I can't see him reaching that ceiling this year. My hope and expectation is that he will have more good games than bad, and that his teammates support him and have his back through the good and the bad. If you are a team player you want other people on your team to succeed, you don't resent them for taking "your minutes" or taking "your shots".

As Orlando said he did some good things tonight, it's just that those things are easily forgotten when you look at the stat sheet and see 3 points looking back at you and you think about how much he is getting paid ($10m per point! yay say the wits!). Like it or not we are stuck with this version of Gordon, Wyc paid him $30m, that's done. We can't trade him as nobody will take him right now. As long as he is providing a net contribution to the team and contributing to winning, then I'm ok with that.

[Chris22]

This thread will probably be 20 pages by the end of the season because Gordon will have stretches where he will play well, then he will have stretches where he won't. So the people who have it in for Gordon and thought we overpaid for him in the first place will keep their heads down until you get these bad games when they will make pronouncements on what a useless player he is, while the people who support/sympathize/want Gordon to succeed will seize upon good games as more proof that he's finally on the way back. Then he has another bad game and the cycle continues. Such is the life of a sports fan 

I decided to save myself the rollercoaster with Gordon, he is what he is this season, inconsistent, he will have stretches of decent games, and he will have stretches of bad games like tonight. Occasionally he will produce a gem that shows what his ceiling is, but I can't see him reaching that ceiling this year. My hope and expectation is that he will have more good games than bad, and that his teammates support him and have his back through the good and the bad. If you are a team player you want other people on your team to succeed, you don't resent them for taking "your minutes" or taking "your shots".

As Orlando said he did some good things tonight, it's just that those things are easily forgotten when you look at the stat sheet and see 3 points looking back at you and you think about how much he is getting paid ($10m per point! yay say the wits!). Like it or not we are stuck with this version of Gordon, Wyc paid him $30m, that's done. We can't trade him as nobody will take him right now. As long as he is providing a net contribution to the team and contributing to winning, then I'm ok with that.

How about we direct our vitriol towards the people who injured Gordon on purpose, Lebron and Crowder?

[ozgod]

This thread will probably be 20 pages by the end of the season because Gordon will have stretches where he will play well, then he will have stretches where he won't. So the people who have it in for Gordon and thought we overpaid for him in the first place will keep their heads down until you get these bad games when they will make pronouncements on what a useless player he is, while the people who support/sympathize/want Gordon to succeed will seize upon good games as more proof that he's finally on the way back. Then he has another bad game and the cycle continues. Such is the life of a sports fan 

I decided to save myself the rollercoaster with Gordon, he is what he is this season, inconsistent, he will have stretches of decent games, and he will have stretches of bad games like tonight. Occasionally he will produce a gem that shows what his ceiling is, but I can't see him reaching that ceiling this year. My hope and expectation is that he will have more good games than bad, and that his teammates support him and have his back through the good and the bad. If you are a team player you want other people on your team to succeed, you don't resent them for taking "your minutes" or taking "your shots".

As Orlando said he did some good things tonight, it's just that those things are easily forgotten when you look at the stat sheet and see 3 points looking back at you and you think about how much he is getting paid ($10m per point! yay say the wits!). Like it or not we are stuck with this version of Gordon, Wyc paid him $30m, that's done. We can't trade him as nobody will take him right now. As long as he is providing a net contribution to the team and contributing to winning, then I'm ok with that.

How about we direct our vitriol towards the people who injured Gordon on purpose, Lebron and Crowder?

I got plenty of vitriol directed at LeBum, trust me  not quite as much against Jae, I liked him when he played for us but it was definitely a snake move hitting Gordon in the air.

[ozgod]

Everyone always compares Hayward’s injury to George’s.  I don’t know if I’m missing something but they’re completely different.  Paul George’s was a cleaner break and Gordon’s was on his angle and it affected more ligaments.

Either way they’re different people with different mentalities.  Gordon will get there but it’s going to take longer (obviously) than George.

PG13 has some advice for Gordon, and for those who keep using George's recovery as a way to criticize Gordon:

Now that Paul George is in the midst of an MVP-caliber season, that gruesome injury in the summer of 2014, when the Thunder wing snapped his right leg during a Team USA scrimmage, might finally seem distant.

And now that Gordon Hayward is struggling through his first season back from a similar injury, George once again has advice for the Celtics forward.

“Honestly, just don’t be so hard on yourself,” George said after the Celtics’ 134-129 win over the Thunder Sunday. “I was fortunate when I got hurt, the following season I got to play six games, and that kind of helped me into the transition. Fact of the matter is everyone is expecting Gordon to be Gordon from Utah and he’s not. He has to take strides, take steps along the way."

Blocking out the so-called noise is vital, according to George.

“Fans can’t be too hard on him and he can’t be too hard on himself,” he said. “The game is different. When you sit out a year and you try to come back, the game is totally different from where you left it.

“He’s got to adapt, find his game, find his rhythm, block out the noise that people are expecting him to be himself right away. It takes time. When I got hurt the doctors told me it would be two to three years before I would feel the way I feel now. Despite them saying I would make a full recovery, it wouldn’t be until two or three years. It’s a long marathon for him. He’ll be alright.”

https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/02/03/celtics-baynes-expects-to-be-out-through-all-star-break/