Woj:"Davis expected to tell teams he only wants LA. Ainge will still make offer"

[greg683x]

All I know is with more and more concern that Irving is not going to resign, that objective need to change, and change fast.



Davis definately doesnt want to come here because he would have never requested a trade at this point in time knowing that Boston could not trade for him.

And if Davis doesnt come, I cannot see Kyrie staying when he can potentially go to play with Davis in LA and the 2 of them take over after lebron(phone calls have repairs their relationship)


Kyrie for Kanter and the Knicks pick

Hayward for expirings

And we end up back in the toilet again??....no thanks.

I am all for trading Hayward, but I don't believe any rumors suggesting there's "uncertainty" over Kyrie staying or going. Also, Al Horford has played really well since coming back from his injury for a guy who's "declining."

Gotta love the gloom and doom.

If I had assurance that Kyrie wouldn't resign, then I would trade him now

The only assurance that Kyrie won't re-sign is being created by the media to stir s** up.

well that is speculation, unless you have behind closed door knowledge.

Haynes’ reporting is speculation, too.

More meat to his statements than to the opposed

So are we totally disregarding now what Kyrie told STMers back in October?

Doesn't matter what Kyrie actually says. Sources are more reliable.

I wouldn't count what he said before the season as cannon.  I don't think he was lying - at the time he felt it wouldn't make sense to leave.  That could change after the season.  And the story won't be that he broke a promise to STHs.  It'll be that he's moving to another team.

i think most people understand that, but to completely disregard his statement in favor of rumors that sources are putting out is ridiculous.   Sources have motives behind their words just as much if not more so than when a player speaks to the media

[Jvalin]

Telling ya, if we cannot get Davis, if that ship is sailed then get me NYKs pick unprotected for Kyrie...If pick is not #1 draft Barrett, draft a Horford replacement, draft a pg and be done with it.

Not even sure I'd do it for their pick + Zinger + Knox + filler(s), much less for their pick + filler(s).
(too scared of Zinger's injury history)

I'm pretty certain that AD will end up with the Fakers, but at the same time I'm fairly confident that Kyrie will go nowhere. Couldn't care less about the Kyrie rumors. Imo, it's just Rich Paul leaking garbage stories to the media.

[Silky]

All I know is with more and more concern that Irving is not going to resign, that objective need to change, and change fast.

Horford is declining, Hayward is currently trash contract.

Davis definately doesnt want to come here because he would have never requested a trade at this point in time knowing that Boston could not trade for him.

And if Davis doesnt come, I cannot see Kyrie staying when he can potentially go to play with Davis in LA and the 2 of them take over after lebron(phone calls have repairs their relationship)


Kyrie for Kanter and the Knicks pick

Hayward for expirings

And we end up back in the toilet again??....no thanks.

I am all for trading Hayward, but I don't believe any rumors suggesting there's "uncertainty" over Kyrie staying or going. Also, Al Horford has played really well since coming back from his injury for a guy who's "declining."

Gotta love the gloom and doom.

If I had assurance that Kyrie wouldn't resign, then I would trade him now

The only assurance that Kyrie won't re-sign is being created by the media to stir s** up.

well that is speculation, unless you have behind closed door knowledge.

Haynes’ reporting is speculation, too.

More meat to his statements than to the opposed

So are we totally disregarding now what Kyrie told STMers back in October?

things could have changed. and I am sure things have changed since then.

I never took what was said then as any sort of a guarantee as it isnt any sort of a guarantee.

[Donoghus]

All I know is with more and more concern that Irving is not going to resign, that objective need to change, and change fast.

Horford is declining, Hayward is currently trash contract.

Davis definately doesnt want to come here because he would have never requested a trade at this point in time knowing that Boston could not trade for him.

And if Davis doesnt come, I cannot see Kyrie staying when he can potentially go to play with Davis in LA and the 2 of them take over after lebron(phone calls have repairs their relationship)


Kyrie for Kanter and the Knicks pick

Hayward for expirings

And we end up back in the toilet again??....no thanks.

I am all for trading Hayward, but I don't believe any rumors suggesting there's "uncertainty" over Kyrie staying or going. Also, Al Horford has played really well since coming back from his injury for a guy who's "declining."

Gotta love the gloom and doom.

If I had assurance that Kyrie wouldn't resign, then I would trade him now

The only assurance that Kyrie won't re-sign is being created by the media to stir s** up.

well that is speculation, unless you have behind closed door knowledge.

Haynes’ reporting is speculation, too.

More meat to his statements than to the opposed

So are we totally disregarding now what Kyrie told STMers back in October?

things could have changed. and I am sure things have changed since then.

I never took what was said then as any sort of a guarantee as it isnt any sort of a guarantee.

But you're the one saying that Haynes has "more meat to his statements".  Based on what?

[Silky]

All I know is with more and more concern that Irving is not going to resign, that objective need to change, and change fast.



Davis definately doesnt want to come here because he would have never requested a trade at this point in time knowing that Boston could not trade for him.

And if Davis doesnt come, I cannot see Kyrie staying when he can potentially go to play with Davis in LA and the 2 of them take over after lebron(phone calls have repairs their relationship)


Kyrie for Kanter and the Knicks pick

Hayward for expirings

And we end up back in the toilet again??....no thanks.

I am all for trading Hayward, but I don't believe any rumors suggesting there's "uncertainty" over Kyrie staying or going. Also, Al Horford has played really well since coming back from his injury for a guy who's "declining."

Gotta love the gloom and doom.

If I had assurance that Kyrie wouldn't resign, then I would trade him now

The only assurance that Kyrie won't re-sign is being created by the media to stir s** up.

well that is speculation, unless you have behind closed door knowledge.

Haynes’ reporting is speculation, too.

More meat to his statements than to the opposed

So are we totally disregarding now what Kyrie told STMers back in October?

Doesn't matter what Kyrie actually says. Sources are more reliable.

I wouldn't count what he said before the season as cannon.  I don't think he was lying - at the time he felt it wouldn't make sense to leave.  That could change after the season.  And the story won't be that he broke a promise to STHs.  It'll be that he's moving to another team.

i think most people understand that, but to completely disregard his statement in favor of rumors that sources are putting out is ridiculous.   Sources have motives behind their words just as much if not more so than when a player speaks to the media

you cannot put more stock into one or the other.

there is, as much as well as fans all know, as good a chance Kyrie leaves as him staying.

But if I was management, and I knew that he was leaning more towards moving away from Boston, then I trade him NOW.

[Silky]

All I know is with more and more concern that Irving is not going to resign, that objective need to change, and change fast.

Horford is declining, Hayward is currently trash contract.

Davis definately doesnt want to come here because he would have never requested a trade at this point in time knowing that Boston could not trade for him.

And if Davis doesnt come, I cannot see Kyrie staying when he can potentially go to play with Davis in LA and the 2 of them take over after lebron(phone calls have repairs their relationship)


Kyrie for Kanter and the Knicks pick

Hayward for expirings

And we end up back in the toilet again??....no thanks.

I am all for trading Hayward, but I don't believe any rumors suggesting there's "uncertainty" over Kyrie staying or going. Also, Al Horford has played really well since coming back from his injury for a guy who's "declining."

Gotta love the gloom and doom.

If I had assurance that Kyrie wouldn't resign, then I would trade him now

The only assurance that Kyrie won't re-sign is being created by the media to stir s** up.

well that is speculation, unless you have behind closed door knowledge.

Haynes’ reporting is speculation, too.

More meat to his statements than to the opposed

So are we totally disregarding now what Kyrie told STMers back in October?

things could have changed. and I am sure things have changed since then.

I never took what was said then as any sort of a guarantee as it isnt any sort of a guarantee.

But you're the one saying that Haynes has "more meat to his statements".  Based on what?

recent behaviors of Kyrie.

Getting frustrated in the media and in public with team.
Calling people out.
Calling lebron and apologizing and letting people know he did that.
Shouting at players on the court (Hayward)
team at times in disarray

I can see there being truth to these rumors, and since there has been NOTHING other than a statement from Kyrie back before the season even began in front of a bunch of celtic fans.....make me say that there is more meat to Haynes statements

[LarBrd33]

All I know is with more and more concern that Irving is not going to resign, that objective need to change, and change fast.



Davis definately doesnt want to come here because he would have never requested a trade at this point in time knowing that Boston could not trade for him.

And if Davis doesnt come, I cannot see Kyrie staying when he can potentially go to play with Davis in LA and the 2 of them take over after lebron(phone calls have repairs their relationship)


Kyrie for Kanter and the Knicks pick

Hayward for expirings

And we end up back in the toilet again??....no thanks.

I am all for trading Hayward, but I don't believe any rumors suggesting there's "uncertainty" over Kyrie staying or going. Also, Al Horford has played really well since coming back from his injury for a guy who's "declining."

Gotta love the gloom and doom.

If I had assurance that Kyrie wouldn't resign, then I would trade him now

The only assurance that Kyrie won't re-sign is being created by the media to stir s** up.

well that is speculation, unless you have behind closed door knowledge.

Haynes’ reporting is speculation, too.

More meat to his statements than to the opposed

So are we totally disregarding now what Kyrie told STMers back in October?

Doesn't matter what Kyrie actually says. Sources are more reliable.

I wouldn't count what he said before the season as cannon.  I don't think he was lying - at the time he felt it wouldn't make sense to leave.  That could change after the season.  And the story won't be that he broke a promise to STHs.  It'll be that he's moving to another team.

i think most people understand that, but to completely disregard his statement in favor of rumors that sources are putting out is ridiculous.   Sources have motives behind their words just as much if not more so than when a player speaks to the media

Two things.

1 - Him saying he intends to stay carries very little weight.  People were begging for him to do that just so we didn't have to deal with several months of "Kyrie to New York" garbage hanging over our heads.  Whether or not he makes that statement doesn't matter.  At the end of the day, if Kyrie bails on Boston you're going to be equally furious at him and smashing your Uncle Drew DVDs... so there was no harm in him saying he wants to stay.

2 - I don't put any weight into Rich Paul telling Chris Haynes that he's growing uncertain of Kyrie's future.  Cool, Rich.  I've been uncertain of Kyrie's future all season.  But at the end of the day, he still has a decent situation here and if someone on the team can step up and be his 2nd star (no offense, Horf but I mean a 2nd go-to scorer), it'll probably make staying here easier.  He's got a decent little team here.  We're still the obvious frontrunner to keep him.

[greg683x]

All I know is with more and more concern that Irving is not going to resign, that objective need to change, and change fast.

Horford is declining, Hayward is currently trash contract.

Davis definately doesnt want to come here because he would have never requested a trade at this point in time knowing that Boston could not trade for him.

And if Davis doesnt come, I cannot see Kyrie staying when he can potentially go to play with Davis in LA and the 2 of them take over after lebron(phone calls have repairs their relationship)


Kyrie for Kanter and the Knicks pick

Hayward for expirings

And we end up back in the toilet again??....no thanks.

I am all for trading Hayward, but I don't believe any rumors suggesting there's "uncertainty" over Kyrie staying or going. Also, Al Horford has played really well since coming back from his injury for a guy who's "declining."

Gotta love the gloom and doom.

If I had assurance that Kyrie wouldn't resign, then I would trade him now

The only assurance that Kyrie won't re-sign is being created by the media to stir s** up.

well that is speculation, unless you have behind closed door knowledge.

Haynes’ reporting is speculation, too.

More meat to his statements than to the opposed

So are we totally disregarding now what Kyrie told STMers back in October?

things could have changed. and I am sure things have changed since then.

I never took what was said then as any sort of a guarantee as it isnt any sort of a guarantee.

But you're the one saying that Haynes has "more meat to his statements".  Based on what?

recent behaviors of Kyrie.

Getting frustrated in the media and in public with team.
Calling people out.
Calling lebron and apologizing and letting people know he did that.
Shouting at players on the court (Hayward)
team at times in disarray

I can see there being truth to these rumors, and since there has been NOTHING other than a statement from Kyrie back before the season even began in front of a bunch of celtic fans.....make me say that there is more meat to Haynes statements

So in other words, just more speculation

[wiley]

Well, this isn't the 80's. Times have changed.  I'm not sure why people are acting so certain that Kyrie will resign here.

I won't be surprised if he stays.  I won't be surprised if he goes. 

Just not sure why so many are naysaying those who say it's not a slam dunk that he stays. 

[Phantom255x]

Let's be honest, nobody knows anything right now. Not even Woj. All Woj has done is basically state what Rich Paul has told him and then put his own thoughts/opinions in later tweets. Rich Paul's truly driving the story along with Lebron and everyone knows it (even the Pelicans FO). Windhorst, Haynes and some of the other Lebron lovers in the media are aiding their efforts.

[greg683x]

Well, this isn't the 80's. Times have changed.  I'm not sure why people are acting so certain that Kyrie will resign here.

I won't be surprised if he stays.  I won't be surprised if he goes. 

Just not sure why so many are naysaying those who say it's not a slam dunk that he stays.

No ones naysaying anyone, it’s just funny that no matter what, some people are just going to believe what they want to believe.  If information comes out against that belief they’ll be quick to point out all the things wrong with it, BUT if the smallest bit of inconsequential information or speculation is mentioned that supports their stance, then nothing else matters, it’s set in stone.

[Fierce1]

One thing's for sure, Kyrie already said he's staying in Boston.
If he leaves then he loses credibility.
That means he's not a man of his word.

[indeedproceed]

For those wondering if Chris Haynes knows Rich Paul at all there’s this thing he did...

http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2014/10/rich_paul_lebron_james_agent_e.html

[jpotter33]

I remember when KG said he had no interest in joining the Celtics and wanted to go to L.A. It was cute, really.

I mean, does everyone here have memory problems and forget that we went through this literally this exact same scenario in the last 18 months with Paul George?! Lol

I don’t get how people are not seeing right through this. It’s the classic LA machine tactics.

Did George actually have his reps say he only wanted to go to LA and wouldn't resign anywhere else? I mean it was heavily rumored he wanted LA but I don't remember this strong of a statement.

I think that I remember reading that.

At the very, very least, he for sure requested a trade to the Lakers and made it very public where he wanted to be.  I’m not sure whether his agent actually *publicly* came out and *directly* said he will not re-sign with anyone else, but that was clearly what was being intimated by him and his group.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/report-paul-george-plans-to-leave-pacers-could-join-lakers-via-free-agency-in-2018/

It’s still a highly analogous situation and indicative that nothing that comes out in these reports should be taken without a grain of salt.

[celticinorlando]

For those wondering if Chris Haynes knows Rich Paul at all there’s this thing he did...

http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2014/10/rich_paul_lebron_james_agent_e.html

Haynes is no more than a West Coast Brian Windhorst. He takes his info and propaganda straight from LeTurd and Rich Paul. No doubt Paul floated that about the Cs and Kyrie to try to discourage or push them behind the Lakers even more.