no one else noticed?

[GreenWarrior]

we lost this game to GS the same way we've been eliminated from the playoffs every yr. under stevens. chucking up contested 3's/jump shots.

this is this team's default offense under stevens, things get tough and someone pulls up and takes a bad contested shot.

go back and watch how we've been eliminated and you'll see.

the "miracle shot offense" has to go, it doesn't have to be this hard.

[apc]

I think it’s the late turnovers take killed us.

[PhoSita]

They scored plenty of points.

The free throw attempt disparity was 34 to 15 in a game they lost by 4.

It's not complicated.


I agree that turnovers in the fourth quarter undermined any attempt to win it, despite the free throw disparity.

[footey]

They scored plenty of points.

The free throw attempt disparity was 34 to 15 in a game they lost by 4.

It's not complicated.


I agree that turnovers in the fourth quarter undermined any attempt to win it, despite the free throw disparity.

The free throw disparity caused by too many 3’s. So agree with GW that contributed.

[Fierce1]

If the Celts get a big man who can score inside and the Celts still keep shooting contested jumpers/3s, then that's on the coach.

But Brad has not had a talented big man who can score inside.

Al Horford is more of a stretch 4 than a Center.

The Atlanta Hawks of Horford, Joe Johnson, and Josh Smith couldn't even reach the east finals a few years ago.

If the Celts are to win another championship, it must not be all 3-point shots or contested jump shots.
For that to happen, the Celts need a big man who can score inside.
That will allow the Celts to play inside-outside basketball.

[MichiganAdam]

they made more 2 point shots and three point shots than GS, plus the 3's were at a higher percentage.  That isn't their problem.  Their problem is and has been they either don't drive enough or don't drive to contact or both.  They need to get to the line about twice as often as they do.  That aggressiveness is what they are lacking.  Tatum, irving, smart, brown, hayward, rozier all can do better at this.  They are all athletic enough.  They have the skills.  It is the want to that is lacking.

[Chief]

Oddly enough, Kerr went big and CBS was unable to counter or take advantage. I thought it was the turning point.

It didn't help that no one boxed out the shooter at the end , either.

[Fierce1]

they made more 2 point shots and three point shots than GS, plus the 3's were at a higher percentage.  That isn't their problem.  Their problem is and has been they either don't drive enough or don't drive to contact or both.  They need to get to the line about twice as often as they do.  That aggressiveness is what they are lacking.  Tatum, irving, smart, brown, hayward, rozier all can do better at this.  They are all athletic enough.  They have the skills.  It is the want to that is lacking.

It's not the athletic skills, it's the mindset.

Among the Celtic players right now, only Kyrie drives to the basket on a regular basis.

Sure guys like Tatum, Brown, Hayward, and Rozier are athletic enough, but their mindset is different.

There are players who want to drive to the basket every chance they get.
But some players want pull up jumpers, step backs, and fade-away shots.

I think once Tatum's body matures, he will drive to the basket more.

Celts need a big man like Vucevic.
He will score inside because that's what he loves to do.

Right now Horford is basically a stretch 4.

If the Celts can get Vucevic, Celts will have the option of playing inside-outside basketball.

[Fierce1]

Oddly enough, Kerr went big and CBS was unable to counter or take advantage. I thought it was the turning point.

It didn't help that no one boxed out the shooter at the end , either.

Celts couldn't counter because Celts have no big man good enough to be on the court.

Right now the Celts can only play small.
If the Celts play big, they're not that good because the bigs they have are not that good.

Horford is a stretch 4 playing Center for the Cs.

It would be very difficult to get past the Bucks and Raptors if the Celts don't add a big man who score inside.

Having the ability to play big will make the Celts an elite team.

GSW already won back to back titles and they still gambled on Cousins.

Celts need another big man to complement Horford.

[droopdog7]

I think what we see is the big difference between the warriors and the celts in terms of talent.  After all the talk this offseason, the celts still only have one player that you can count on every game to bring it.  Kyrie and that’s it.

Hordord played well but he’s not that kind of player.  Tatum is not ready just yet.  Brown will never be that type of player.  And Hayward isn’t that player now.

Contrast that to the warriors, who have curry and KD and Klay.

[LarBrd33]

I think what we see is the big difference between the warriors and the celts in terms of talent.  After all the talk this offseason, the celts still only have one player that you can count on every game to bring it.  Kyrie and that’s it.

Hordord played well but he’s not that kind of player.  Tatum is not ready just yet.  Brown will never be that type of player.  And Hayward isn’t that player now.

Contrast that to the warriors, who have curry and KD and Klay.

agreed.  We’ve started to lean more heavily on kyrie... but that’s a necessity because it’s a 1 Star team.

[Fierce1]

I think what we see is the big difference between the warriors and the celts in terms of talent.  After all the talk this offseason, the celts still only have one player that you can count on every game to bring it.  Kyrie and that’s it.

Hordord played well but he’s not that kind of player.  Tatum is not ready just yet.  Brown will never be that type of player.  And Hayward isn’t that player now.

Contrast that to the warriors, who have curry and KD and Klay.

agreed.  We’ve started to lean more heavily on kyrie... but that’s a necessity because it’s a 1 Star team.

Hayward is supposed to be that 2nd star.

Tatum is a star in the making.

[playdream]

We need to prepare the TL for the Warriors, he is the key to win it all this year

[Chief]

I think what we see is the big difference between the warriors and the celts in terms of talent.  After all the talk this offseason, the celts still only have one player that you can count on every game to bring it.  Kyrie and that’s it.

Hordord played well but he’s not that kind of player.  Tatum is not ready just yet.  Brown will never be that type of player.  And Hayward isn’t that player now.

Contrast that to the warriors, who have curry and KD and Klay.

agreed.  We’ve started to lean more heavily on kyrie... but that’s a necessity because it’s a 1 Star team.

There was a point in the 2nd half, where you could really tell that Tatum was starting to feel it. For whatever reason,  the Celtics didnt continue to feed him.

Tatum is the other star. He didnt back down versus Lebron, last year, and he came to play last night. He only got 15 shots though. Morris and Smart shot almost as many. And Kyrie almost shot double that. That has to be fixed. Maybe the solution is to trade Morris...although his defensive size is nice against Durant and the Greek Freak.

*Al also came to play. He's the 3rd star. Only problem is his age. He will get us through this year with weekly "rest".But going forward, after this year, his age really scares me.

[KGBirdBias]

I've been saying it for 2 yrs. Stevens offense will win games but against good defensive teams it's a bad formula. The Warriors whip the ball around and constantly have cutters. They got to the FT line and still shoot their share of 3s. Our entire offense is based around 3s.

We got half of the FTs. There is too much athleticism on this team to just jack up 3 after 3. Tatum has to get much stronger because he should've backed Curry into the paint. He let's guys off too easy because he wants no contact.

We should be running offense like the Warriors but we don't and that will be our downfall.