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Re: no one else noticed?
« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2019, 12:23:45 PM »

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Oddly enough, Kerr went big and CBS was unable to counter or take advantage. I thought it was the turning point.

It didn't help that no one boxed out the shooter at the end , either.

Celts couldn't counter because Celts have no big man good enough to be on the court.

Right now the Celts can only play small.
If the Celts play big, they're not that good because the bigs they have are not that good.

Horford is a stretch 4 playing Center for the Cs.

It would be very difficult to get past the Bucks and Raptors if the Celts don't add a big man who score inside.

Having the ability to play big will make the Celts an elite team.

GSW already won back to back titles and they still gambled on Cousins.

Celts need another big man to complement Horford.

I agree we need some big man help. But CBS could if countered with AL and Baynes. That lineup has proven to be effective in the past.

Why didn't Baynes play in the 2nd half?

I thought Theis substitution was a poor one.
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Re: no one else noticed?
« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2019, 01:11:41 PM »

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I think what we see is the big difference between the warriors and the celts in terms of talent.  After all the talk this offseason, the celts still only have one player that you can count on every game to bring it.  Kyrie and that’s it.

Hordord played well but he’s not that kind of player.  Tatum is not ready just yet.  Brown will never be that type of player.  And Hayward isn’t that player now.

Contrast that to the warriors, who have curry and KD and Klay.
agreed.  We’ve started to lean more heavily on kyrie... but that’s a necessity because it’s a 1 Star team.

Bingo ....1 star vs 5 ....LOL.   we need to let go the dead weight .

Re: no one else noticed?
« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2019, 01:15:00 PM »

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I've been saying it for 2 yrs. Stevens offense will win games but against good defensive teams it's a bad formula. The Warriors whip the ball around and constantly have cutters. They got to the FT line and still shoot their share of 3s. Our entire offense is based around 3s.

We got half of the FTs. There is too much athleticism on this team to just jack up 3 after 3. Tatum has to get much stronger because he should've backed Curry into the paint. He let's guys off too easy because he wants no contact.

We should be running offense like the Warriors but we don't and that will be our downfall.

You’re right, it was definitely the *checks notes* 111 points we scored last night that was our downfall.

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« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2019, 01:18:56 PM »

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There were two stretches last night that killed us. The second quarter where KD and Curry killed our bench, and the second part of the 3rd where our bench couldn't score at all.

Despite those two bad stretches, we were within one shot of winning this game last night, a wide open Marcus Morris 3. That was a great look, it didn't go down, there's no need to panic and throw blame at everyone after an all around great game against a historically great Warriors team.

Shooting too many threes didn't cost us the game. Several unforced turnovers in the last few minutes, including a few by Kyrie, and one of our best 3 point shooters missing a wide open three cost us the game.

Overall, I am VERY encouraged by what i saw. Our starters can hang with the Warriors starters and could beat them. Once our bench gets it together, we could take them. That is more than any other team in the league can say right now.

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« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2019, 01:30:46 PM »

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Oddly enough, Kerr went big and CBS was unable to counter or take advantage. I thought it was the turning point.

It didn't help that no one boxed out the shooter at the end , either.

If Marcus Morris makes that 3, which was dead on, Cs might win the game.  If Smart gets that board off the miss FTs, Cs might win the game.

There was no "turning point" - it was a well played game between 2 really good teams that tend to play each other close, someone had to lose and unfortunately it was Boston.

You would like them to pull out that game at home though.

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« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2019, 01:55:50 PM »

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we lost this game to GS the same way we've been eliminated from the playoffs every yr. under stevens. chucking up contested 3's/jump shots.

this is this team's default offense under stevens, things get tough and someone pulls up and takes a bad contested shot.

go back and watch how we've been eliminated and you'll see.

the "miracle shot offense" has to go, it doesn't have to be this hard.

Sadly, this is how Stevens coaches. He's not a bad coach, but he still hasn't fully adapted to coaching in the NBA. Good observation. I know I'll get darts thrown at me, but in a hypothetical world, I wonder if Tom Thibodeau would be a better coach for this team than Brad? I know that will never happened because Brad is Danny and Wyc's guy.

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« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2019, 02:00:36 PM »

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GSW basically gave us the game in the last 30 seconds.

Not getting that rebound is unacceptable. Not giving the ball to Kyrie in those last 10 seconds is unacceptable.

The lack of attacking the basket throughout certainly doesn't help.

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« Reply #22 on: January 27, 2019, 02:43:23 PM »

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You need a bench scorer to come in and light it up. Same last year. Lack of a legit shooting threat off the bench.

To beat GS you have to out score them. Defense ain't going to do it.

Who that guy is I don't know? but its evident Players like Brown Smart Rozier Morris and Hayward are way to inconsistent as shooters. 


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« Reply #23 on: January 27, 2019, 02:49:07 PM »

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Smart took two 3s that were just not good shots. I was saying the wrong people are taking shots at this crucial time of the game. Kyrie takes an ill-advised 3 right before the half. I just don't get why Stevens puts up with these quick 3s and the ball doesn't move. It gets tiresome.

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« Reply #24 on: January 27, 2019, 02:52:57 PM »

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Oddly enough, Kerr went big and CBS was unable to counter or take advantage. I thought it was the turning point.

It didn't help that no one boxed out the shooter at the end , either.

If Marcus Morris makes that 3, which was dead on, Cs might win the game.  If Smart gets that board off the miss FTs, Cs might win the game.

There was no "turning point" - it was a well played game between 2 really good teams that tend to play each other close, someone had to lose and unfortunately it was Boston.

You would like them to pull out that game at home though.

There is always a turning point in a ball game.
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« Reply #25 on: January 27, 2019, 03:18:11 PM »

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I've been saying it for 2 yrs. Stevens offense will win games but against good defensive teams it's a bad formula. The Warriors whip the ball around and constantly have cutters. They got to the FT line and still shoot their share of 3s. Our entire offense is based around 3s.

We got half of the FTs. There is too much athleticism on this team to just jack up 3 after 3. Tatum has to get much stronger because he should've backed Curry into the paint. He let's guys off too easy because he wants no contact.

We should be running offense like the Warriors but we don't and that will be our downfall.

well freaking said!

too bad it falls on deaf ears here. everyone here thinks it's not the scoring... it can't be the scoring, they scored 111 pts..

yet every game we've been eliminated in in the playoffs it came down to us needing to score and we couldn't because we settle for difficult hero shots... just like last night.

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« Reply #26 on: January 27, 2019, 03:26:07 PM »

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They taking way too many threes that they forgot they can score inside the 3-point line.

Go for a pull-up jumper, midrange jumper at least if you're gonna attempt to chuck a 3...take the extra step. More accuracy.


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Re: no one else noticed?
« Reply #27 on: January 27, 2019, 03:40:45 PM »

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If they were more aggressive going to the hoop they may have gotten more foul calls, which would have provided scoring opportunity, and taken some of the GSW starters out of the game. As it was, Boogie played the entire 4th quarter with 5 fouls. Should have gone at him and got him to foul out.
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« Reply #28 on: January 27, 2019, 03:44:39 PM »

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I noticed that Celtic fans see what they want to see.


Apparently Rozier was a turn style in the 2nd quarter.

Besides one play , Rozier didnt get destroyed by Curry in that outburst.

Marcus Smart comes in and gets put in to a blender where Curry hits a three and cannot be stopped off the dribble even by the great Smart.

Somehow Rozier is the turnstyle and deserves blame.

Not a dig on Smart, but you wonder what fans are watching, and what agenda they have allows them to create an alternate world where they see things.

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« Reply #29 on: January 27, 2019, 03:51:53 PM »

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I noticed that Celtic fans see what they want to see.


Apparently Rozier was a turn style in the 2nd quarter.

Besides one play , Rozier didnt get destroyed by Curry in that outburst.

Marcus Smart comes in and gets put in to a blender where Curry hits a three and cannot be stopped off the dribble even by the great Smart.

Somehow Rozier is the turnstyle and deserves blame.

Not a dig on Smart, but you wonder what fans are watching, and what agenda they have allows them to create an alternate world where they see things.
TP. I agree with your opinion that Rozier is the scapegoat on CS. It is understandable on a way since he is in the last year of this deal. Also he is natural as proven as other players, plus fans expected another leap from his, honestly unbelievable and overachieving last year.
I still believe in him to deliver in his limited role this year come playoffs.
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