Starting Ojeleye and Hayward?

[wdleehi]

Celtics are in desperate need of a big who can shoot and rebound.  Their top three who can fill those are out. 

[Rosco917]

I like Semi, he has worked himself, little by little into a useful NBA player. Someday he'll be a solid 3 and D guy enhancing the bench of an NBA team. 

[Ogaju]

was a dumb move.

[Ogaju]

At some point we need to give some credit to the Bucks role players.  There was a 6 minute stretch where Snell and Maker combined for 19 points.  Many of their buckets came on contested threes.  A normal night from those guys would have lead to a tightly contested game.

I think this is our problem too, we lack role players and have a bunch of guys that want to be the man at times and are afraid of stepping on somebody toes, and play tentative.  We have talent that simply is not blending well.

that is a coaching problem!!!

[Green-18]

At some point we need to give some credit to the Bucks role players.  There was a 6 minute stretch where Snell and Maker combined for 19 points.  Many of their buckets came on contested threes.  A normal night from those guys would have lead to a tightly contested game.

I think this is our problem too, we lack role players and have a bunch of guys that want to be the man at times and are afraid of stepping on somebody toes, and play tentative.  We have talent that simply is not blending well.

that is a coaching problem!!!

It's only a coaching problem if they can't figure things out by the time the playoffs arrive.  Every team is unique and faces its own set of problems.  This particular group is dealing with the challenge of meshing a large group of talented players, many of which have aspirations of becoming star players. 

It's likely that ANY coach would run into these problems with this particular group.  Given Stevens' track record, he deserves the benefit of the doubt until we see what the team looks like in the Spring.   

[SHAQATTACK]

Celtics are in desperate need of a big who can shoot and rebound.  Their top three who can fill those are out.

^ This

this BIG spot was why Philly tank tanked for years on end , till they landed a good one.

Why Spurs suck......no Tim Ducan .   Pop is a fine coach , but it was David Robinson and his injury that gave the Spurs Duncan and made Pop famous .

as the Lewhine era closes out , i think versatile bigs who can play defense , protect the paint will make a comeback.

[Ogaju]

did we really start Ojeleye at center... that could be coaching malpractice.

[Big333223]

Too many people are coming to long term conclusions about RWIII's fit in Brad's system.  Williams has admitted that he is struggling to understand defensive rotations.  His instincts aren't there yet.  We all love the blocks and highlight dunks, but RWIII isn't at a point where he can make the right plays on a consistent basis.   

If people are going to question the starting lineup, then why don't we look at the results when RWIII entered the game at the beginning of the 2nd quarter?  The Celtics were outscored 12-5 in just over 4 mins.  Let's not pretend that the Celtics magically got better when he entered the game.

At some point we need to give some credit to the Bucks role players.  There was a 6 minute stretch where Snell and Maker combined for 19 points.  Many of their buckets came on contested threes.  A normal night from those guys would have lead to a tightly contested game.

This, 100%.

The starters that everyone is complaining about jumped out to a 10-2 lead to begin the game. That starting lineup was not the problem and playing Robert Williams more, highlight machine though he is, isn't going to solve the defensive problems because he doesn't know how to play NBA defense yet.

[Ogaju]

Too many people are coming to long term conclusions about RWIII's fit in Brad's system.  Williams has admitted that he is struggling to understand defensive rotations.  His instincts aren't there yet.  We all love the blocks and highlight dunks, but RWIII isn't at a point where he can make the right plays on a consistent basis.   

If people are going to question the starting lineup, then why don't we look at the results when RWIII entered the game at the beginning of the 2nd quarter?  The Celtics were outscored 12-5 in just over 4 mins.  Let's not pretend that the Celtics magically got better when he entered the game.

At some point we need to give some credit to the Bucks role players.  There was a 6 minute stretch where Snell and Maker combined for 19 points.  Many of their buckets came on contested threes.  A normal night from those guys would have lead to a tightly contested game.

This, 100%.

The starters that everyone is complaining about jumped out to a 10-2 lead to begin the game. That starting lineup was not the problem and playing Robert Williams more, highlight machine though he is, isn't going to solve the defensive problems because he doesn't know how to play NBA defense yet.

which game did you watch?

[Chris22]

Too many people are coming to long term conclusions about RWIII's fit in Brad's system.  Williams has admitted that he is struggling to understand defensive rotations.  His instincts aren't there yet.  We all love the blocks and highlight dunks, but RWIII isn't at a point where he can make the right plays on a consistent basis.   

If people are going to question the starting lineup, then why don't we look at the results when RWIII entered the game at the beginning of the 2nd quarter?  The Celtics were outscored 12-5 in just over 4 mins.  Let's not pretend that the Celtics magically got better when he entered the game.

At some point we need to give some credit to the Bucks role players.  There was a 6 minute stretch where Snell and Maker combined for 19 points.  Many of their buckets came on contested threes.  A normal night from those guys would have lead to a tightly contested game.

This, 100%.

The starters that everyone is complaining about jumped out to a 10-2 lead to begin the game. That starting lineup was not the problem and playing Robert Williams more, highlight machine though he is, isn't going to solve the defensive problems because he doesn't know how to play NBA defense yet.

which game did you watch?

Exactly.
After the first couple of minutes the starting unit got destroyed.

[Big333223]

Too many people are coming to long term conclusions about RWIII's fit in Brad's system.  Williams has admitted that he is struggling to understand defensive rotations.  His instincts aren't there yet.  We all love the blocks and highlight dunks, but RWIII isn't at a point where he can make the right plays on a consistent basis.   

If people are going to question the starting lineup, then why don't we look at the results when RWIII entered the game at the beginning of the 2nd quarter?  The Celtics were outscored 12-5 in just over 4 mins.  Let's not pretend that the Celtics magically got better when he entered the game.

At some point we need to give some credit to the Bucks role players.  There was a 6 minute stretch where Snell and Maker combined for 19 points.  Many of their buckets came on contested threes.  A normal night from those guys would have lead to a tightly contested game.

This, 100%.

The starters that everyone is complaining about jumped out to a 10-2 lead to begin the game. That starting lineup was not the problem and playing Robert Williams more, highlight machine though he is, isn't going to solve the defensive problems because he doesn't know how to play NBA defense yet.

which game did you watch?

The Celtics and Bucks. They played last night. Sounds like you missed it.

[Bobshot]

Semi is too nice .  Hayward needs to act like a max contract star ...lead and produce or he should be traded .He is also playing like Jeff Green. Max players should be your most consistent players .  He is not ....like he has been watching Jeff Green. 

 Draymond Greens will walk all over you to get their way .   

i see no swag with this team.   

When you are on the court , no matter who you are , you need to play your rear end off .   Only a few players are giving this effort .

We got too many Jeff Greens and not enough Morris and Smart .

i d be for trading to get the other Morris twin.

I think Hayward needs to be traded. I think they are actually a better team without him. The guy just isn't a good fit with this team right now. There are younger players that need the minutes.

I believe their poor start had a lot to do with that starting rotation--Hayward and Irving both coming off injuries and Hayward not being a great fit defensively.

Stevens did not do a great job pre-season getting the team ready to play. He focused too much on the back end of the roster.

[Ogaju]

Too many people are coming to long term conclusions about RWIII's fit in Brad's system.  Williams has admitted that he is struggling to understand defensive rotations.  His instincts aren't there yet.  We all love the blocks and highlight dunks, but RWIII isn't at a point where he can make the right plays on a consistent basis.   

If people are going to question the starting lineup, then why don't we look at the results when RWIII entered the game at the beginning of the 2nd quarter?  The Celtics were outscored 12-5 in just over 4 mins.  Let's not pretend that the Celtics magically got better when he entered the game.

At some point we need to give some credit to the Bucks role players.  There was a 6 minute stretch where Snell and Maker combined for 19 points.  Many of their buckets came on contested threes.  A normal night from those guys would have lead to a tightly contested game.

This, 100%.

The starters that everyone is complaining about jumped out to a 10-2 lead to begin the game. That starting lineup was not the problem and playing Robert Williams more, highlight machine though he is, isn't going to solve the defensive problems because he doesn't know how to play NBA defense yet.

which game did you watch?

Exactly.
After the first couple of minutes the starting unit got destroyed.

TP that is the part of the game I saw.

[rondofan1255]

Shame it didn’t work out
Better luck next time Omeleye

[RockinRyA]

Semi is too nice .  Hayward needs to act like a max contract star ...lead and produce or he should be traded .He is also playing like Jeff Green. Max players should be your most consistent players .  He is not ....like he has been watching Jeff Green. 

 Draymond Greens will walk all over you to get their way .   

i see no swag with this team.   

When you are on the court , no matter who you are , you need to play your rear end off .   Only a few players are giving this effort .

We got too many Jeff Greens and not enough Morris and Smart .

i d be for trading to get the other Morris twin.

Let us wish karma do not bite you hard and that you won't have your foot broken like Hayward did.