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Starting Ojeleye and Hayward?
« on: December 21, 2018, 10:48:12 PM »

Offline Chris22

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Starting Ojeleye and Hayward was a huge mistake. It makes us very unathletic.

Williams and Brown should of started instead.

Please Brad, don't do that again.
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Re: Starting Omeleye and Hayward?
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2018, 11:02:29 PM »

Offline LilRip

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I don’t have a problem with Semi starting. It’s Hayward starting that’s the real problem. Keep Hayward on the bench and start a real center like Theis or Williams!

Kyrie Smart Brown Tatum Theis

Hayward off the bench.
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Re: Starting Omeleye and Hayward?
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2018, 11:11:27 PM »

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So, is the idea to make Hayward earn a starting spot?
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Re: Starting Omeleye and Hayward?
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2018, 11:12:48 PM »

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Watching Giannis making easy baskets on drives with no Celtics defense against him, and you wonder where Williams was? The perfect guy to plug the middle, and he played a total of 8 minutes!

My conclusion is Stevens has a real problem with rim protectors, and he is heading for a confrontation with Ainge, who drafted this kid for his shot blocking skills. Now I know Stevens has his extension in his pocket, but if the Celtics underachieve this year, him being around next year is not a sure thing.

Another factor in all this is Hayward, who Ainge signed for a lot of money--perhaps on the urging of Stevens. So far, Hayward has shown he isn't worth anywhere near his contract. Granted he was badly injured and is still working his way back, so he must be given some slack. But he hasn't shown a lot so far this year.

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« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2018, 11:21:15 PM »

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I think the logic was that Semi was going to start on Giannis like the playoffs. Milwaukee play a stretch 5 in Lopez so any big we played would have been guarding him on the perimeter anyway. The help defense on Giannis probably should have done a better job on his drives but the Bucks were lights out from 3 in the 1st half so they couldn't collapse on him as quickly without risking those guys hitting an open shot. Gordon starting was probably for his perimeter shooting to space the floor, he was 14-29 from 3 the last 10 games not including tonight but he couldn't hit the side of an aircraft carrier tonight. So that move backfired.
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« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2018, 11:31:07 PM »

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Honestly, I like Omeleye a lot as a starter.  I've noticed that he has the instincts of a cat, but can be playful as a kitten.
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« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2018, 01:34:44 AM »

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Watching Giannis making easy baskets on drives with no Celtics defense against him, and you wonder where Williams was? The perfect guy to plug the middle, and he played a total of 8 minutes!

My conclusion is Stevens has a real problem with rim protectors, and he is heading for a confrontation with Ainge, who drafted this kid for his shot blocking skills. Now I know Stevens has his extension in his pocket, but if the Celtics underachieve this year, him being around next year is not a sure thing.

Another factor in all this is Hayward, who Ainge signed for a lot of money--perhaps on the urging of Stevens. So far, Hayward has shown he isn't worth anywhere near his contract. Granted he was badly injured and is still working his way back, so he must be given some slack. But he hasn't shown a lot so far this year.

Exactly. Irving, Smart, Brown, Tatum, and Williams should of started last night.

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« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2018, 05:45:16 AM »

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I don’t know how Brad kept his job after this game.

I mean three L’s in a row, what standards are we setting going forward?

Amiright?!?!?!


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« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2018, 06:55:58 AM »

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Honestly, I like Omeleye a lot as a starter.  I've noticed that he has the instincts of a cat, but can be playful as a kitten.


Agreed.

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« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2018, 08:36:16 AM »

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Too many people are coming to long term conclusions about RWIII's fit in Brad's system.  Williams has admitted that he is struggling to understand defensive rotations.  His instincts aren't there yet.  We all love the blocks and highlight dunks, but RWIII isn't at a point where he can make the right plays on a consistent basis.   

If people are going to question the starting lineup, then why don't we look at the results when RWIII entered the game at the beginning of the 2nd quarter?  The Celtics were outscored 12-5 in just over 4 mins.  Let's not pretend that the Celtics magically got better when he entered the game.

At some point we need to give some credit to the Bucks role players.  There was a 6 minute stretch where Snell and Maker combined for 19 points.  Many of their buckets came on contested threes.  A normal night from those guys would have lead to a tightly contested game.


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« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2018, 08:40:06 AM »

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At some point we need to give some credit to the Bucks role players.  There was a 6 minute stretch where Snell and Maker combined for 19 points.  Many of their buckets came on contested threes.  A normal night from those guys would have lead to a tightly contested game.

I think this is our problem too, we lack role players and have a bunch of guys that want to be the man at times and are afraid of stepping on somebody toes, and play tentative.  We have talent that simply is not blending well.

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« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2018, 09:03:31 AM »

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At some point we need to give some credit to the Bucks role players.  There was a 6 minute stretch where Snell and Maker combined for 19 points.  Many of their buckets came on contested threes.  A normal night from those guys would have lead to a tightly contested game.

I think this is our problem too, we lack role players and have a bunch of guys that want to be the man at times and are afraid of stepping on somebody toes, and play tentative.  We have talent that simply is not blending well.

I completely agree.  Jaylen is a perfect example of your point.  He is probably best suited as a 3&D wing who can attack the rim when the defense is caught in rotation.  It's a tough sell for a guy who is trying to establishing himself as a great player.  This team could really benefit from a versatile wing defender who is capable of hitting open shots on limited attempts.  It feels like we have too many rhythm shooters.

 

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« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2018, 09:03:48 AM »

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Morris has been way better and should start when he gets back.

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« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2018, 09:08:12 AM »

Offline Green-18

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Morris has been way better and should start when he gets back.

No doubt.  Morris has really become a champion of his role this season.  He plays to his strengths and keeps things simple.  He's one of the few players who is decisive on a consistent basis. 

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« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2018, 09:31:19 AM »

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Semi is too nice .  Hayward needs to act like a max contract star ...lead and produce or he should be traded .He is also playing like Jeff Green. Max players should be your most consistent players .  He is not ....like he has been watching Jeff Green. 

 Draymond Greens will walk all over you to get their way .   

i see no swag with this team.   

When you are on the court , no matter who you are , you need to play your rear end off .   Only a few players are giving this effort .

We got too many Jeff Greens and not enough Morris and Smart .

i d be for trading to get the other Morris twin.
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