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Then it was just the 76ers
« on: July 18, 2018, 04:04:48 PM »

Offline Chef Parish

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Raptors and Cavs losing their star players. I'm not substituting Leonard as a star yet for the Raptors. That leaves the 76ers as the only challenging team right now for the Celtics.

Re: Then it was just the 76ers
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2018, 04:09:15 PM »

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I don’t really buy that. Toronto shouldn’t be discounted as a contender.


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Re: Then it was just the 76ers
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2018, 04:18:39 PM »

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Toronto is more of a contender with KL, assuming he shows up.

Re: Then it was just the 76ers
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2018, 04:25:10 PM »

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Yeah, thread fail.  I don't think Tor was a contender before in theory, any change would potentially be bad for the Celts.  In this case, replacing DeRozen with Kawhi is a clear upgrade.

Re: Then it was just the 76ers
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2018, 04:25:11 PM »

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Toronto with healthy Kawhi is better than Philly IMO

Re: Then it was just the 76ers
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2018, 04:35:57 PM »

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Toronto with healthy Kawhi is better than Philly IMO

Zach Lowe shares this opinion.

"A Finals run might help. Toronto has a chance at that. With this deal, the Raptors enter next season just behind Boston -- ahead of Philly -- in the Eastern Conference pecking order. (The Celtics could be 60-plus-wins special next season."

 This board is one of the few places in the world with such an elevated view of a philly team that lost two bench players and whiffed on there three main targets this summer. Its really bizarre how people talk about them on here...

Re: Then it was just the 76ers
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2018, 04:40:32 PM »

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Toronto with healthy Kawhi is better than Philly IMO

Zach Lowe shares this opinion.

"A Finals run might help. Toronto has a chance at that. With this deal, the Raptors enter next season just behind Boston -- ahead of Philly -- in the Eastern Conference pecking order. (The Celtics could be 60-plus-wins special next season."

 This board is one of the few places in the world with such an elevated view of a philly team that lost two bench players and whiffed on there three main targets this summer. Its really bizarre how people talk about them on here...
Not quite.  National media LOVES Embiid/Simmons though they seem to acknowledge the Celtics are near the top too.

Anyway, assuming Kawhi plays hard for the Raptors and is healthy, how can they not be better than last year since KL is >> DD?  FWIW, they also got Danny Green in the deal.

Re: Then it was just the 76ers
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2018, 04:56:48 PM »

Offline Scintan

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Raptors and Cavs losing their star players. I'm not substituting Leonard as a star yet for the Raptors. That leaves the 76ers as the only challenging team right now for the Celtics.

Unless you're just waiting on the trade becoming official, in which case you should still have Derozean on the Raptors, your decision in bold doesn't make sense.


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Re: Then it was just the 76ers
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2018, 05:02:56 PM »

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Kawhi is 2 notches above Derozan. They are a real threat now.
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Re: Then it was just the 76ers
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2018, 05:04:17 PM »

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I think TOR now is a bigger threat than Philly who is full of losers who are used to tanking.

Re: Then it was just the 76ers
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2018, 05:18:46 PM »

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Kawhi is 2 notches above Derozan. They are a real threat now.

I might quibble about just how much of an upgrade Kawhi is to Derozan but when healthy and committed it is inarguable he is an upgrade.

The question is whether or not Kawhi shows up.
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Re: Then it was just the 76ers
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2018, 05:22:59 PM »

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I think TOR now is a bigger threat than Philly who is full of losers who are used to tanking.
Except they are not.  They went from 10 wins to 28 wins to 52 wins.  Covington is really their only player who was playing with them through their tanking seasons.  McConnell and Holmes were only on the 10 win tank.  Embiid, Saric, Simmons, Redick, Fultz have played 2 years or less. 

Re: Then it was just the 76ers
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2018, 05:23:04 PM »

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Toronto with healthy Kawhi is better than Philly IMO

Zach Lowe shares this opinion.

"A Finals run might help. Toronto has a chance at that. With this deal, the Raptors enter next season just behind Boston -- ahead of Philly -- in the Eastern Conference pecking order. (The Celtics could be 60-plus-wins special next season."

 This board is one of the few places in the world with such an elevated view of a philly team that lost two bench players and whiffed on there three main targets this summer. Its really bizarre how people talk about them on here...
Not quite.  National media LOVES Embiid/Simmons though they seem to acknowledge the Celtics are near the top too.

Anyway, assuming Kawhi plays hard for the Raptors and is healthy, how can they not be better than last year since KL is >> DD?  FWIW, they also got Danny Green in the deal.
Basketball isn't played on paper, Kawhi doesn't want to play for that team and what will Lowry feel about that team also

Re: Then it was just the 76ers
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2018, 05:30:00 PM »

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Toronto with healthy Kawhi is better than Philly IMO
i second this. no one knows whether fultz will be a factor. we are not sure if embiid's immaturity will be a problem. and will simmons be able to beat defenses who dare him to shoot? quite a few questions to answered by philly.

toronto is better this year than last, assuming kawhi plays for them.  ;D
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Re: Then it was just the 76ers
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2018, 05:51:24 PM »

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Toronto with healthy Kawhi is better than Philly IMO
i second this. no one knows whether fultz will be a factor. we are not sure if embiid's immaturity will be a problem. and will simmons be able to beat defenses who dare him to shoot? quite a few questions to answered by philly.

toronto is better this year than last, assuming kawhi plays for them.  ;D
Embiid's immaturity?  Please.  Having fun trash talking and on social media isn't immaturity.  He's arguably a top 10 player already in less than 100 NBA games played. 

 

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