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Re: Then it was just the 76ers
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2018, 05:54:59 PM »

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Toronto with healthy Kawhi is better than Philly IMO
i second this. no one knows whether fultz will be a factor. we are not sure if embiid's immaturity will be a problem. and will simmons be able to beat defenses who dare him to shoot? quite a few questions to answered by philly.

toronto is better this year than last, assuming kawhi plays for them.  ;D
Embiid's immaturity?  Please.  Having fun trash talking and on social media isn't immaturity.  He's arguably a top 10 player already in less than 100 NBA games played.

Yeah in four seasons.

Not that impressive.

He’s talented for sure, but also immature and quite annoying.
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Re: Then it was just the 76ers
« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2018, 06:11:27 PM »

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Think Philly took a step back this offseason so far..lost Bellinelli and Ersan..added no one except draft players
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Re: Then it was just the 76ers
« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2018, 06:24:05 PM »

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Think Philly took a step back this offseason so far..lost Bellinelli and Ersan..added no one except draft players
Don't think losing Belli and Ersan, who were post trade deadline pickups, is much of a loss.  They picked up Wilson Chandler via trade.  How they do will predominantly be driven by the growth of their young players.  They should hold onto their room exception to see who becomes available during the season. 

Re: Then it was just the 76ers
« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2018, 06:24:19 PM »

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Philly is so overrated. We beat them without our two best players in 5 games, yet somehow they’re at our level?

Nonsense. Boston and Toronto are clearly the class/tier 1 of the East right now with Boston having the advantage over Toronto. I think Philly is just as close to a tier 2 team as they are a tier 1 team, especially given that they didn’t improve this offseason and lost several key vets.
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Re: Then it was just the 76ers
« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2018, 06:39:50 PM »

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Think Philly took a step back this offseason so far..lost Bellinelli and Ersan..added no one except draft players
Don't think losing Belli and Ersan, who were post trade deadline pickups, is much of a loss.  They picked up Wilson Chandler via trade. 

You can tell you're definitely a Sixers fan with this one!

The Sixers went 20-3 with both Ilyasova and Belinelli and were 32-27 prior to their arrival. They provided spacing and high IQ play, things that will be heavily missed.

Chandler isn't the best fit on that team. As his athletic ability has waned, his best position now is small ball 4, a position that Simmons and Saric are also best suited for. In addition, his ability to stretch the floor isn't that good. His last 4 seasons he's shot the following from 3:

34.8
34.2
33.7
35.8

Their spacing is definitely going to take a huge hit!
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Re: Then it was just the 76ers
« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2018, 07:00:22 PM »

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Philly has taken a step back and TOR took a step forward. TOR is our toughest competition unless there is a dramatic improvement in BS and Fultz.
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Re: Then it was just the 76ers
« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2018, 07:13:14 PM »

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Think Philly took a step back this offseason so far..lost Bellinelli and Ersan..added no one except draft players
Don't think losing Belli and Ersan, who were post trade deadline pickups, is much of a loss.  They picked up Wilson Chandler via trade. 

You can tell you're definitely a Sixers fan with this one!

The Sixers went 20-3 with Ilyasova both and Belinelli and were 32-27 prior to their arrival. They providing spacing and high IQ play, things that will heavily missed.

Chandler isn't the best on that team. As his athletic ability has waned, his best position now is small ball 4, positions that Simmons and Saric are also best suited for. In addition, his ability to stretch the floor isn't that good. His last 4 seasons he's shot the following from 3:

34.8
34.2
33.7
35.8

Their spacing is definitely going to take a huge hit!

Strong post eddie.

Re: Then it was just the 76ers
« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2018, 08:08:36 PM »

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Think Philly took a step back this offseason so far..lost Bellinelli and Ersan..added no one except draft players
Don't think losing Belli and Ersan, who were post trade deadline pickups, is much of a loss.  They picked up Wilson Chandler via trade. 

You can tell you're definitely a Sixers fan with this one!

The Sixers went 20-3 with both Ilyasova and Belinelli and were 32-27 prior to their arrival. They provided spacing and high IQ play, things that will be heavily missed.

Chandler isn't the best fit on that team. As his athletic ability has waned, his best position now is small ball 4, a position that Simmons and Saric are also best suited for. In addition, his ability to stretch the floor isn't that good. His last 4 seasons he's shot the following from 3:

34.8
34.2
33.7
35.8

Their spacing is definitely going to take a huge hit!
The Sixers had the toughest 1st half of the season which is why I predicted they'd make the playoffs if they were close to .500 after the 1st half of the season.  Their very strong end to the season was driven to a significant degree by playing weaker teams that were tanking.   

Ilyasova and Belinelli did contribute to their end of the season run but they were a lot less effective in the playoffs.  Ilyasova only shot 36% (29% in playoffs) from three for the Sixers and he plays the 4 predominantly.  Belli's shooting was a definite plus but when it got to the playoffs he only shot 34.8% from three and his defense was a huge negative. 

I'd say Chandler is a slight upgrade over Ilyasova but at worse it is a wash.  The Sixers were able to pickup Ilyasova and Belinelli as vet minimum post deadline acquisitions.  No reason to think they can't make similar pickups during this season especially if they retain their room exception. 

Re: Then it was just the 76ers
« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2018, 08:14:16 PM »

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Toronto with healthy Kawhi is better than Philly IMO

Zach Lowe shares this opinion.

"A Finals run might help. Toronto has a chance at that. With this deal, the Raptors enter next season just behind Boston -- ahead of Philly -- in the Eastern Conference pecking order. (The Celtics could be 60-plus-wins special next season."

 This board is one of the few places in the world with such an elevated view of a philly team that lost two bench players and whiffed on there three main targets this summer. Its really bizarre how people talk about them on here...
Not quite.  National media LOVES Embiid/Simmons though they seem to acknowledge the Celtics are near the top too.

Anyway, assuming Kawhi plays hard for the Raptors and is healthy, how can they not be better than last year since KL is >> DD?  FWIW, they also got Danny Green in the deal.
Basketball isn't played on paper, Kawhi doesn't want to play for that team and what will Lowry feel about that team also
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Re: Then it was just the 76ers
« Reply #24 on: July 18, 2018, 08:26:31 PM »

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Think Philly took a step back this offseason so far..lost Bellinelli and Ersan..added no one except draft players
Don't think losing Belli and Ersan, who were post trade deadline pickups, is much of a loss.  They picked up Wilson Chandler via trade.  How they do will predominantly be driven by the growth of their young players.  They should hold onto their room exception to see who becomes available during the season.

lol come on man. You know how much they helped them last regular season

Re: Then it was just the 76ers
« Reply #25 on: July 18, 2018, 08:28:23 PM »

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Not buying Philly right now. They basically struck out on every possibility. Team is the same if not worse than the end of last off-season. Lost Ilyasova and Belinelli. Added Chandler and a bunch of rookies. They better hope Fultz is a positive or otherwise they will resemble the team from the first half of last season (barely .500).

Re: Then it was just the 76ers
« Reply #26 on: July 18, 2018, 08:33:44 PM »

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Not buying Philly right now. They basically struck out on every possibility. Team is the same if not worse than the end of last off-season. Lost Ilyasova and Belinelli. Added Chandler and a bunch of rookies. They better hope Fultz is a positive or otherwise they will resemble the team from the first half of last season (barely .500).
They had a brutal first half schedule.

Then they got Beli and Ilyasova and had a piece of cake second half.
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Re: Then it was just the 76ers
« Reply #27 on: July 18, 2018, 08:36:40 PM »

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The Buck's will be better than the sixers and I'd pick the Greek Freak over Kawhi to lead my team. I think Giannis makes another big leap this year.
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Re: Then it was just the 76ers
« Reply #28 on: July 18, 2018, 08:56:47 PM »

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Except they are not. 

They were against us in the playoffs!   Simmons, Embiid don't know how to win add Fultz to that mix, too.   They had a nice run when teams were tanking for draft picks at the end of the year, period!

Re: Then it was just the 76ers
« Reply #29 on: July 18, 2018, 09:36:37 PM »

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Think Philly took a step back this offseason so far..lost Bellinelli and Ersan..added no one except draft players
Don't think losing Belli and Ersan, who were post trade deadline pickups, is much of a loss.  They picked up Wilson Chandler via trade.  How they do will predominantly be driven by the growth of their young players.  They should hold onto their room exception to see who becomes available during the season.

lol come on man. You know how much they helped them last regular season
I'll refer you to my post above.  They helped but not as much as the easy end of season schedule did.  In any case, you don't win championships in the regular season.  Ilyasova and Belinelli are a lot less useful in the playoffs and if the Sixers had re-signed them you would have been trumpeting that fact in all your Sixers posts. 

 

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