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Re: Magic given credit for acquiring LeBron and possibly Kawhi
« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2018, 01:56:28 PM »

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I think there's a big reason he signed a 4 year contract instead of his usual. He trusts the ownership and GM unlike Gilbert.

I think its because he already lives in LA, wants to stay there anyway, and is getting old. Years 3 and 4 of that deal are going to be tough for LA.

Yeah, LeBron signed with the Lakers because they're in LA, and they're the Lakers.  Just about anyone could have been running that team and LeBron still would have signed there.  This had nothing to do with Magic.

I wouldn't be so sure, though, that this will be a tough contract for LA in years 3 and 4 of LeBron's deal.  He'll be 36 and 37, respectively, but there's still a very good chance he's playing at a high level at those ages.  Most likely not 'best player on earth' levels, but probably still fringe all-star levels.  I'd look to guys like Kareem, Karl Malone, Duncan, ect. for what to expect from LeBron as he ages.  I also expect LeBron to transition to full time PF soon.

Re: Magic given credit for acquiring LeBron and possibly Kawhi
« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2018, 02:00:56 PM »

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WRONG! Kawhi does not want to play with LeBron or for Magic.


https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/kawhi-leonard-trade-rumors-spurs-star-could-prefer-sixers-clippers-over-lakers-superteam/

He does not want to play for us either, though

As much as I would like to believe Leonard would prefer to compete against Lebron I don't buy this article. Seems like posturing

Yeah, I'm not buying all these recent reports making it seem like Kawhi has cooled on the Lakers.  It seems pretty obvious to me it's just San Antonio trying to get the Lakers to bite on their astronomically high price tag, and using the Paul George situation as the bait.

I think people who are looking at PG and Kawhi as similar situations are misreading the circusmtances.  The circumstances are totally different.

Re: Magic given credit for acquiring LeBron and possibly Kawhi
« Reply #17 on: July 04, 2018, 02:29:49 PM »

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Buss and Magic are willing to stand out of the way and let Lebron have more of his way .....like he had at Clevelad .

Jiim Buss and Mitchnwere not type to let Lebron make franchise decisions.

Lebron had very few options considering he expects GM and Coaches to submit to his authority.

Some team like Rockets would have tried ,  but i think Lebron saw he wasn't going to run that franchise .

He went where he could mantain his power status and make the most money with endorsements.

He wants to own part of a nba team .  But The nthink he sees himself as Dan Gilbert wanting to.be the majority owner .  This will take more money ,  LA iis the market that can help him.

Re: Magic given credit for acquiring LeBron and possibly Kawhi
« Reply #18 on: July 04, 2018, 02:53:18 PM »

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WRONG! Kawhi does not want to play with LeBron or for Magic.


https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/kawhi-leonard-trade-rumors-spurs-star-could-prefer-sixers-clippers-over-lakers-superteam/

He does not want to play for us either, though

As much as I would like to believe Leonard would prefer to compete against Lebron I don't buy this article. Seems like posturing

Yeah, I'm not buying all these recent reports making it seem like Kawhi has cooled on the Lakers.  It seems pretty obvious to me it's just San Antonio trying to get the Lakers to bite on their astronomically high price tag, and using the Paul George situation as the bait.

I think people who are looking at PG and Kawhi as similar situations are misreading the circusmtances.  The circumstances are totally different.
I can absolutely see Kawhi not wanting to play with Lebron.  There was talk that Kawhi wanted to go to a larger market to get increased visibility and to get a large shoe deal.  Lebron sucks all the oxygen out of the room.  Does Kawhi really want to be looked at as Lebron's supporting cast?   To get the blame when things are going poorly and the crumbs when things go well. 

Re: Magic given credit for acquiring LeBron and possibly Kawhi
« Reply #19 on: July 04, 2018, 03:29:27 PM »

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By far the easiest GM/President job in all of sports.  Lakers tank and create cap space.   It works within 5 years.  There is no such formula at work for any other major sports team. 

I was hoping, after DA had craftily built the current C's from the ashes of their pervious contending team, that the C's would at least get a few years with no LAL in the rear view mirror trying to match the career championships record.  But of course, the Lakers tank, create space and sign the best player in the world... again.  Their tanking was useful too (even though less successful talent-wise than other tankers) - putting them in position to make an offer for another superstar who is holding other team's hostage by indicating he'll not sign wiht them long-term.  One #7 and three #2's in a row and 2 of them will pay off (KK an excellent late round get).  Meanwhile other tankers remain in building mode while Lakers jump to getting a 2nd superstar -- because he wants to go there. 

Magic gets no credit as far as I am concerned.  This is the only franchise in sports that I think I could successfully be the GM.  Makes me sick.  Keep smiling Magic -- you are so crafty. 

Re: Magic given credit for acquiring LeBron and possibly Kawhi
« Reply #20 on: July 04, 2018, 03:31:12 PM »

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WRONG! Kawhi does not want to play with LeBron or for Magic.


https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/kawhi-leonard-trade-rumors-spurs-star-could-prefer-sixers-clippers-over-lakers-superteam/

He does not want to play for us either, though

As much as I would like to believe Leonard would prefer to compete against Lebron I don't buy this article. Seems like posturing

Yeah, I'm not buying all these recent reports making it seem like Kawhi has cooled on the Lakers.  It seems pretty obvious to me it's just San Antonio trying to get the Lakers to bite on their astronomically high price tag, and using the Paul George situation as the bait.

I think people who are looking at PG and Kawhi as similar situations are misreading the circusmtances.  The circumstances are totally different.
I can absolutely see Kawhi not wanting to play with Lebron.  There was talk that Kawhi wanted to go to a larger market to get increased visibility and to get a large shoe deal.  Lebron sucks all the oxygen out of the room.  Does Kawhi really want to be looked at as Lebron's supporting cast?   To get the blame when things are going poorly and the crumbs when things go well.

He can ask Kobe how he felt when Shaq referred to him as Robin or ask Kyrie why he left LeBron in Cleveland.

Re: Magic given credit for acquiring LeBron and possibly Kawhi
« Reply #21 on: July 04, 2018, 03:48:51 PM »

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WRONG! Kawhi does not want to play with LeBron or for Magic.


https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/kawhi-leonard-trade-rumors-spurs-star-could-prefer-sixers-clippers-over-lakers-superteam/

He does not want to play for us either, though

As much as I would like to believe Leonard would prefer to compete against Lebron I don't buy this article. Seems like posturing

Yeah, I'm not buying all these recent reports making it seem like Kawhi has cooled on the Lakers.  It seems pretty obvious to me it's just San Antonio trying to get the Lakers to bite on their astronomically high price tag, and using the Paul George situation as the bait.

I think people who are looking at PG and Kawhi as similar situations are misreading the circusmtances.  The circumstances are totally different.
I can absolutely see Kawhi not wanting to play with Lebron.  There was talk that Kawhi wanted to go to a larger market to get increased visibility and to get a large shoe deal.  Lebron sucks all the oxygen out of the room.  Does Kawhi really want to be looked at as Lebron's supporting cast?   To get the blame when things are going poorly and the crumbs when things go well.

He can ask Kobe how he felt when Shaq referred to him as Robin or ask Kyrie why he left LeBron in Cleveland.

Yeah, I'm not surprised most Celtics fans have the most negative view of LeBron possible, regardless of whether it's based in reality or not.

And I totally get why Celtics fans would want to convince themselves Kawhi won't end up a Laker.  Why should it be so easy for them to get all the stars when Boston had to work much harder to get ours.

Re: Magic given credit for acquiring LeBron and possibly Kawhi
« Reply #22 on: July 04, 2018, 04:03:45 PM »

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WRONG! Kawhi does not want to play with LeBron or for Magic.


https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/kawhi-leonard-trade-rumors-spurs-star-could-prefer-sixers-clippers-over-lakers-superteam/

He does not want to play for us either, though

As much as I would like to believe Leonard would prefer to compete against Lebron I don't buy this article. Seems like posturing

Yeah, I'm not buying all these recent reports making it seem like Kawhi has cooled on the Lakers.  It seems pretty obvious to me it's just San Antonio trying to get the Lakers to bite on their astronomically high price tag, and using the Paul George situation as the bait.

I think people who are looking at PG and Kawhi as similar situations are misreading the circusmtances.  The circumstances are totally different.
I can absolutely see Kawhi not wanting to play with Lebron.  There was talk that Kawhi wanted to go to a larger market to get increased visibility and to get a large shoe deal.  Lebron sucks all the oxygen out of the room.  Does Kawhi really want to be looked at as Lebron's supporting cast?   To get the blame when things are going poorly and the crumbs when things go well.

He can ask Kobe how he felt when Shaq referred to him as Robin or ask Kyrie why he left LeBron in Cleveland.

Yeah, I'm not surprised most Celtics fans have the most negative view of LeBron possible, regardless of whether it's based in reality or not.

And I totally get why Celtics fans would want to convince themselves Kawhi won't end up a Laker.  Why should it be so easy for them to get all the stars when Boston had to work much harder to get ours.

Because they're the Lakers ::). Next...

Re: Magic given credit for acquiring LeBron and possibly Kawhi
« Reply #23 on: July 04, 2018, 08:22:00 PM »

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WRONG! Kawhi does not want to play with LeBron or for Magic.


https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/kawhi-leonard-trade-rumors-spurs-star-could-prefer-sixers-clippers-over-lakers-superteam/

He does not want to play for us either, though

As much as I would like to believe Leonard would prefer to compete against Lebron I don't buy this article. Seems like posturing

Yeah, I'm not buying all these recent reports making it seem like Kawhi has cooled on the Lakers.  It seems pretty obvious to me it's just San Antonio trying to get the Lakers to bite on their astronomically high price tag, and using the Paul George situation as the bait.

I think people who are looking at PG and Kawhi as similar situations are misreading the circusmtances.  The circumstances are totally different.
I can absolutely see Kawhi not wanting to play with Lebron.  There was talk that Kawhi wanted to go to a larger market to get increased visibility and to get a large shoe deal.  Lebron sucks all the oxygen out of the room.  Does Kawhi really want to be looked at as Lebron's supporting cast?   To get the blame when things are going poorly and the crumbs when things go well.

He can ask Kobe how he felt when Shaq referred to him as Robin or ask Kyrie why he left LeBron in Cleveland.

Yeah, I'm not surprised most Celtics fans have the most negative view of LeBron possible, regardless of whether it's based in reality or not.

And I totally get why Celtics fans would want to convince themselves Kawhi won't end up a Laker.  Why should it be so easy for them to get all the stars when Boston had to work much harder to get ours.
I think there is a pretty good chance that Kawhi will stay wherever he is traded to, so LA shouldn't just count on him coming next summer
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Re: Magic given credit for acquiring LeBron and possibly Kawhi
« Reply #24 on: July 04, 2018, 08:31:15 PM »

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WRONG! Kawhi does not want to play with LeBron or for Magic.


https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/kawhi-leonard-trade-rumors-spurs-star-could-prefer-sixers-clippers-over-lakers-superteam/

He does not want to play for us either, though

As much as I would like to believe Leonard would prefer to compete against Lebron I don't buy this article. Seems like posturing

Yeah, I'm not buying all these recent reports making it seem like Kawhi has cooled on the Lakers.  It seems pretty obvious to me it's just San Antonio trying to get the Lakers to bite on their astronomically high price tag, and using the Paul George situation as the bait.

I think people who are looking at PG and Kawhi as similar situations are misreading the circusmtances.  The circumstances are totally different.
I can absolutely see Kawhi not wanting to play with Lebron.  There was talk that Kawhi wanted to go to a larger market to get increased visibility and to get a large shoe deal.  Lebron sucks all the oxygen out of the room.  Does Kawhi really want to be looked at as Lebron's supporting cast?   To get the blame when things are going poorly and the crumbs when things go well.

He can ask Kobe how he felt when Shaq referred to him as Robin or ask Kyrie why he left LeBron in Cleveland.

Yeah, I'm not surprised most Celtics fans have the most negative view of LeBron possible, regardless of whether it's based in reality or not.

And I totally get why Celtics fans would want to convince themselves Kawhi won't end up a Laker.  Why should it be so easy for them to get all the stars when Boston had to work much harder to get ours.
I think there is a pretty good chance that Kawhi will stay wherever he is traded to, so LA shouldn't just count on him coming next summer

Why?

I feel that Kawhi has little to prove. At this point, he can go make $30m+ per year in his hometown with everything that he wants. Why wouldn't Kawhi wait a year to make that happen?
The only real mistake is the one from which we learn nothing.

Re: Magic given credit for acquiring LeBron and possibly Kawhi
« Reply #25 on: July 04, 2018, 09:40:40 PM »

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WRONG! Kawhi does not want to play with LeBron or for Magic.


https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/kawhi-leonard-trade-rumors-spurs-star-could-prefer-sixers-clippers-over-lakers-superteam/

He does not want to play for us either, though

As much as I would like to believe Leonard would prefer to compete against Lebron I don't buy this article. Seems like posturing

Yeah, I'm not buying all these recent reports making it seem like Kawhi has cooled on the Lakers.  It seems pretty obvious to me it's just San Antonio trying to get the Lakers to bite on their astronomically high price tag, and using the Paul George situation as the bait.

I think people who are looking at PG and Kawhi as similar situations are misreading the circusmtances.  The circumstances are totally different.
I can absolutely see Kawhi not wanting to play with Lebron.  There was talk that Kawhi wanted to go to a larger market to get increased visibility and to get a large shoe deal.  Lebron sucks all the oxygen out of the room.  Does Kawhi really want to be looked at as Lebron's supporting cast?   To get the blame when things are going poorly and the crumbs when things go well.

He can ask Kobe how he felt when Shaq referred to him as Robin or ask Kyrie why he left LeBron in Cleveland.

Yeah, I'm not surprised most Celtics fans have the most negative view of LeBron possible, regardless of whether it's based in reality or not.

And I totally get why Celtics fans would want to convince themselves Kawhi won't end up a Laker.  Why should it be so easy for them to get all the stars when Boston had to work much harder to get ours.
I think there is a pretty good chance that Kawhi will stay wherever he is traded to, so LA shouldn't just count on him coming next summer

Why?

I feel that Kawhi has little to prove. At this point, he can go make $30m+ per year in his hometown with everything that he wants. Why wouldn't Kawhi wait a year to make that happen?

Agreed.  He'll go to LA next year...100 percent.  The only question is if he can find his way there sooner.  I mean San Antonio may not want to trade him to the Lakers (except for the moon and stars they asked for), but they can't stop another team that they trade Kawhi to from doing it.  So Kawhi will be a Laker by this time next year at the very latest...

Re: Magic given credit for acquiring LeBron and possibly Kawhi
« Reply #26 on: July 04, 2018, 10:21:49 PM »

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WRONG! Kawhi does not want to play with LeBron or for Magic.


https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/kawhi-leonard-trade-rumors-spurs-star-could-prefer-sixers-clippers-over-lakers-superteam/

He does not want to play for us either, though

As much as I would like to believe Leonard would prefer to compete against Lebron I don't buy this article. Seems like posturing

Yeah, I'm not buying all these recent reports making it seem like Kawhi has cooled on the Lakers.  It seems pretty obvious to me it's just San Antonio trying to get the Lakers to bite on their astronomically high price tag, and using the Paul George situation as the bait.

I think people who are looking at PG and Kawhi as similar situations are misreading the circusmtances.  The circumstances are totally different.

The report is by Shams Charania, isn't he supposed to be one of the two most reputable reporters covering NBA rumors? I'd think he would know if the Spurs were deliberately feeding
him misinformation. He's covered this story quite a bit so far.

I don't think it's too far-fetched that LeBron's toxic attitude rubs other stars the wrong way.

Re: Magic given credit for acquiring LeBron and possibly Kawhi
« Reply #27 on: July 04, 2018, 10:44:12 PM »

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As he should.

He's a lovable guy. I appreciate the rivalry that these two shared



Great to see him getting SOME credit for pulling this off. Jeanie Buss should, too.

Here's to hoping that LA can become relevant again

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But alas the beatings SHALL and WILL continue.

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Re: Magic given credit for acquiring LeBron and possibly Kawhi
« Reply #28 on: July 04, 2018, 10:50:17 PM »

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Rumor now is Kawhi wants to play for the Clippers.... if West pulls this off.

Re: Magic given credit for acquiring LeBron and possibly Kawhi
« Reply #29 on: July 04, 2018, 11:55:53 PM »

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WRONG! Kawhi does not want to play with LeBron or for Magic.


https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/kawhi-leonard-trade-rumors-spurs-star-could-prefer-sixers-clippers-over-lakers-superteam/

He does not want to play for us either, though

As much as I would like to believe Leonard would prefer to compete against Lebron I don't buy this article. Seems like posturing
Neither do I. It was reported a week ago that KL texted LBJ and told him he'd love to play with him.