Hypothetically, If We Signed Dwight Howard To Minimum, Would You Be Upset?

[GreenEnvy]

Eh this isn't Dwight demanding a buyout and the Nets trying to talk him into playing for them.

They have no interest in Dwight as a player, they wanted to dump guaranteed salary for next year. A buyout makes sense for both sides.

You think the Nets rather pay $20M for nothing and have to replace his roster spot with someone than pay him $24M to produce for them? Teams are only willing to do that for severely disgruntled players causing issues in the locker room. Considering this trade hasn’t even been finalized, one would surmise the buyout issue was probably initiated from Dwight’s side.

So, you’re saying the Nets don’t value his production at $3-5M or whatever his buyout will save them? Then factor in the roster spot even at the minimum will shave a million off that savings for inferior production. AND then people want to say his personality isn’t an issue? Why else would a team (that can offer him the role and usage he craves) not want 16 and 12 or whatever he put up?

[green_bballers13]

Eh this isn't Dwight demanding a buyout and the Nets trying to talk him into playing for them.

They have no interest in Dwight as a player, they wanted to dump guaranteed salary for next year. A buyout makes sense for both sides.

You think the Nets rather pay $20M for nothing and have to replace his roster spot with someone than pay him $24M to produce for them? Teams are only willing to do that for severely disgruntled players causing issues in the locker room. Considering this trade hasn’t even been finalized, one would surmise the buyout issue was probably initiated from Dwight’s side.

So, you’re saying the Nets don’t value his production at $3-5M or whatever his buyout will save them? Then factor in the roster spot even at the minimum will shave a million off that savings for inferior production. AND then people want to say his personality isn’t an issue? Why else would a team (that can offer him the role and usage he craves) not want 16 and 12 or whatever he put up?

I'm a little confused. On one hand you're saying he's a shameful player/person, and then on the other hand you're questioning why BKN wouldn't want him. In your eyes, is he valuable or not?

I think its simple: BKN isn't ready to make the plunge yet, and is at least a couple players away before they are ready to make a push at the Eastern Conference. Dwight Howard is as useful on BKN as he was on CHA and ATL.

[Fafnir]

Eh this isn't Dwight demanding a buyout and the Nets trying to talk him into playing for them.

They have no interest in Dwight as a player, they wanted to dump guaranteed salary for next year. A buyout makes sense for both sides.

You think the Nets rather pay $20M for nothing and have to replace his roster spot with someone than pay him $24M to produce for them? Teams are only willing to do that for severely disgruntled players causing issues in the locker room.

You do realize we are talking about Dwight Howard right?

Howard was just traded by his past two teams for WORSE contracts due to him being a locker room issue? I'd be absolutely shocked if BKN didn't expect a buyout when they started talking to the CHA about trading for Dwight's deal.

They're saving 8 million dollars overall in salary and sixteen million on their cap sheet next year. That was the purpose of the trade, I think they'll happily buy him out and make sure to keep him the hell away from Jarrett Allen.

[Roy H.]

Eh this isn't Dwight demanding a buyout and the Nets trying to talk him into playing for them.

They have no interest in Dwight as a player, they wanted to dump guaranteed salary for next year. A buyout makes sense for both sides.

You think the Nets rather pay $20M for nothing and have to replace his roster spot with someone than pay him $24M to produce for them? Teams are only willing to do that for severely disgruntled players causing issues in the locker room. Considering this trade hasn’t even been finalized, one would surmise the buyout issue was probably initiated from Dwight’s side.

So, you’re saying the Nets don’t value his production at $3-5M or whatever his buyout will save them? Then factor in the roster spot even at the minimum will shave a million off that savings for inferior production. AND then people want to say his personality isn’t an issue? Why else would a team (that can offer him the role and usage he craves) not want 16 and 12 or whatever he put up?

I'm a little confused. On one hand you're saying he's a shameful player/person, and then on the other hand you're questioning why BKN wouldn't want him. In your eyes, is he valuable or not?

I think its simple: BKN isn't ready to make the plunge yet, and is at least a couple players away before they are ready to make a push at the Eastern Conference. Dwight Howard is as useful on BKN as he was on CHA and ATL.

They're not really mutually exclusive, are they?

Dwight is shameful because he doesn't want to put in the hard work to win a championship.  He's all talk, no action, or so say Kobe, presumably Harden, and players in Charlotte, Atlanta and Orlando, etc.

At the same time, in an ideal world Brooklyn wouldn't be wasting $20+ million on dead money.  They'd prefer Dwight wasn't a headcase, obviously.  Of course, if he wasn't a headcase, he wouldn't be traded around the league for some of the worst contracts in the NBA.

[Fafnir]

Yeah if Howard wasn't loathed I have to imagine CHA would have found a different way to duck the tax. Taking on 16 million next year is pretty painful.

[GreenEnvy]

Eh this isn't Dwight demanding a buyout and the Nets trying to talk him into playing for them.

They have no interest in Dwight as a player, they wanted to dump guaranteed salary for next year. A buyout makes sense for both sides.

You think the Nets rather pay $20M for nothing and have to replace his roster spot with someone than pay him $24M to produce for them? Teams are only willing to do that for severely disgruntled players causing issues in the locker room. Considering this trade hasn’t even been finalized, one would surmise the buyout issue was probably initiated from Dwight’s side.

So, you’re saying the Nets don’t value his production at $3-5M or whatever his buyout will save them? Then factor in the roster spot even at the minimum will shave a million off that savings for inferior production. AND then people want to say his personality isn’t an issue? Why else would a team (that can offer him the role and usage he craves) not want 16 and 12 or whatever he put up?

I'm a little confused. On one hand you're saying he's a shameful player/person, and then on the other hand you're questioning why BKN wouldn't want him. In your eyes, is he valuable or not?

I think its simple: BKN isn't ready to make the plunge yet, and is at least a couple players away before they are ready to make a push at the Eastern Conference. Dwight Howard is as useful on BKN as he was on CHA and ATL.

I’m not sayig the Nets don’t want him, I’m responding to a quote suggesting the Nets want the buyout.

I think he’s not a $24M player. But the Nets are already on the hook for that. So if they buy him out for $20M, they don’t value him at even $4M, which I do for a team like Brooklyn (but not us).

What I’m saying is he is a fickle player and wouldn’t be a good fit on a lot of teams. Hypothetically, if a team with no defined role for him traded for him, he would be a problem. The Nets have a role for him, he can get the touches he wants, and then do whatever he pleases after the season (whether that’s get one last big contract or chase a ring, that’s his prerogative as a free agent).

But to suggest the Nets have no use for him as a player (just because their main purpose of the trade was ridding themselves of Mozgov’s extra year) and initiated buyout talks, well that simply isn’t true/known. They are a bad team and there aren’t many players they could get that would come close to his production.

I don’t get the comparisons between CHA/ATL and BKN. They had multiple years left on the contract and knew he wasn’t worth it. Brooklyn doesn’t have that issue. Again, I say he is worth whatever savings the buyout would produce, personality issues aside (and again, I don’t believe they would be as pronounced there as they would other places).

[GreenEnvy]

Eh this isn't Dwight demanding a buyout and the Nets trying to talk him into playing for them.

They have no interest in Dwight as a player, they wanted to dump guaranteed salary for next year. A buyout makes sense for both sides.

You think the Nets rather pay $20M for nothing and have to replace his roster spot with someone than pay him $24M to produce for them? Teams are only willing to do that for severely disgruntled players causing issues in the locker room.

You do realize we are talking about Dwight Howard right?

Howard was just traded by his past two teams for WORSE contracts due to him being a locker room issue? I'd be absolutely shocked if BKN didn't expect a buyout when they started talking to the CHA about trading for Dwight's deal.

They're saving 8 million dollars overall in salary and sixteen million on their cap sheet next year. That was the purpose of the trade, I think they'll happily buy him out and make sure to keep him the hell away from Jarrett Allen.

I don’t even know where this is going, as my original post in this thread said I didn’t want him on this team even for the minimum. I agree he’s an issue.

But I don’t think he’s unmanageable in this league, so there’s got to be some teams that would minimize his issues, and Brooklyn is seemingly a good enough fit.

Nets wouldn’t want him on the team (paying him ~$20M to stay away) but a contender would?

[Scintan]

If you're the Celtics, you're

• Bringing back Baynes as your starter, because he's reliable and a proven fit.
• Bringing back Theis as a backup, because he showed well last year.
• Hoping to have Williams as a backup, because you're hoping he's the future.
• Going to use Horford as your center in some lineups.

So where does a center who pouts when he doesn't get his minutes, touches, and shots, fit in behind that?

[Big333223]

If Howard wants a ring and is willing to sign for the minimum, why wouldn't he just sign with GSW?

Because Draymond Green would break Howard's jaw within 10 days?

And Smart wouldn't?

I hope he does, before Dwight signs a contract.

As long as its the real Dwight and not a framed picture of Dwight, Marcus will be fine.

[Beat LA]

In before Coach Bo calls Howard a "broken down clown", again, hehe .

[Phantom255x]

With Cousins going to GSW, would you take a chance here on Howard?

I think he could now go to the Lakers (lol), but if not then idk... but Golden State is now unbeatable even if Cousins is just 70% effective when he returns.

[ThaPreacher]

I would sign Howard in a Commonwealth Ave minute!

Great to have to match-up against Boogie.

[esel1000]

With Cousins going to GSW, would you take a chance here on Howard?

I think he could now go to the Lakers (lol), but if not then idk... but Golden State is now unbeatable even if Cousins is just 70% effective when he returns.

100% if you can get him cheap just to throw at the Warriors.

[Kuberski33]

I would sign Howard in a Commonwealth Ave minute!

Great to have to match-up against Boogie.

Ever since I saw a video clip of him mocking a female sideline reporter who was just trying to do her job (for I think it was the Hawks) I want nothing to do with him. He's an a-- and he doesn't fit the culture here at all.

[Raul C]

I would not want him.

Could we still scour the bigs in Europe or is there a window for that kind of thing?