Anthony Davis traded to Lakers(page 272)

[gouki88]

Whatever.

I'll honestly just be glad once this whole thing is over. At least by then we'll have a better sense of our future direction after the Draft (whether it's with AD + Kyrie, just AD, just Kyrie, or neither and build around the Jays).

Also, I think if NOP does trade with the Lakers, they'll still want everything (Lonzo, Hart, Kuz, Ball, #4). Not 4 of the 5 assets, ALL of them.

It would blow my mind if the Pels took that offer

[PAOBoston]

Shams saying the Cs are going hard after AD regardless of Kyrie or AD’s commitment. This is classic DA anything less shouldn’t surprise anyone. KG, attempts at CP3, etc.

If we lose out it’s not because DA didn’t try... that said if Kyrie leaves and AD leaves next year, at least the Pels will be fun to watch.

Go for it.  Even if Davis leaves next year we’ll have Brown and maybe the Grizzlies pick, and if you want trade Hayward, Horford ect for young assets to go for a rebuild.  Not too often you get a chance for the best big man in the game.  Have Davis spend some time with KG and Bill Russell.

that is nuts.

It really isn’t. You need to swing for the fences for super stars. Cs are likely late lottery fodder otherwise. So you’d be rebuilding regardless.

[Kuberski33]

Shams saying the Cs are going hard after AD regardless of Kyrie or AD’s commitment. This is classic DA anything less shouldn’t surprise anyone. KG, attempts at CP3, etc.

If we lose out it’s not because DA didn’t try... that said if Kyrie leaves and AD leaves next year, at least the Pels will be fun to watch.

Go for it.  Even if Davis leaves next year we’ll have Brown and maybe the Grizzlies pick, and if you want trade Hayward, Horford ect for young assets to go for a rebuild.  Not too often you get a chance for the best big man in the game.  Have Davis spend some time with KG and Bill Russell.

that is nuts.

It really isn’t. You need to swing for the fences for super stars. Cs are likely late lottery fodder otherwise. So you’d be rebuilding regardless.

From title contender to lottery in 2 seasons - that would be a blast.  Sign me up.

[Phantom255x]

Whatever.

I'll honestly just be glad once this whole thing is over. At least by then we'll have a better sense of our future direction after the Draft (whether it's with AD + Kyrie, just AD, just Kyrie, or neither and build around the Jays).

Also, I think if NOP does trade with the Lakers, they'll still want everything (Lonzo, Hart, Kuz, Ball, #4). Not 4 of the 5 assets, ALL of them.

It would blow my mind if the Pels took that offer

They could. Truthfully, if not us, then who can beat that offer? Does #3 + Knox + filler from NYK beat that? I'm not sure. And I don't think the Clippers and Nets have the kind of package that NOP wants unless they are willing to work some complex S&T or 3-team trade somehow.

[CF033]

Shams saying the Cs are going hard after AD regardless of Kyrie or AD’s commitment. This is classic DA anything less shouldn’t surprise anyone. KG, attempts at CP3, etc.

If we lose out it’s not because DA didn’t try... that said if Kyrie leaves and AD leaves next year, at least the Pels will be fun to watch.

Go for it.  Even if Davis leaves next year we’ll have Brown and maybe the Grizzlies pick, and if you want trade Hayward, Horford ect for young assets to go for a rebuild.  Not too often you get a chance for the best big man in the game.  Have Davis spend some time with KG and Bill Russell.

that is nuts.

It really isn’t. You need to swing for the fences for super stars. Cs are likely late lottery fodder otherwise. So you’d be rebuilding regardless.

AD doesn't make us a championship contender and he's almost certainly out of here after one season.

[gouki88]

Whatever.

I'll honestly just be glad once this whole thing is over. At least by then we'll have a better sense of our future direction after the Draft (whether it's with AD + Kyrie, just AD, just Kyrie, or neither and build around the Jays).

Also, I think if NOP does trade with the Lakers, they'll still want everything (Lonzo, Hart, Kuz, Ball, #4). Not 4 of the 5 assets, ALL of them.

It would blow my mind if the Pels took that offer

They could. Truthfully, if not us, then who can beat that offer? Does #3 + Knox + filler from NYK beat that? I'm not sure. And I don't think the Clippers and Nets have the kind of package that NOP wants unless they are willing to work some complex S&T or 3-team trade somehow.

Woj tweeted that Griffin is perfectly happy to do a multiteam deal, so who knows!

[Chief]

I dont think I could make the investment without knowing he'd resign.

Help facilitate the trade only if we can rip someone off desperate to get the trade done.

Besides that, keep the young core and try to upgrade the center and bench.

[Bobshot]

NY's Rotoworld  (it does spin NY if you read it every day) says AD wants to be traded to LA or NY. So they've added NY.
Seems like every major FA has been connected with NY. Durant, Irving, Davis.... They didn't say Lakers or Clippers, Knicks or Nets.  The kind of stuff that comes from the agent, which has been going on all along. Tampering via the media which affected the Lakers and maybe the Celtics players last season. Too bad Silver can't seem to do anything about it.

But does it matter? We went through the same stuff with Leonard last year. It was LA or bust for him. And now he's leading Toronto to a probable championship! And George? Same nonsense, and he didn't even win a championship.

Does all the media talk about Davis affect teams like the Celtics who may want to trade for him? I doubt it. After all, they aren't trading for his agent.

[Neurotic Guy]

Shams saying the Cs are going hard after AD regardless of Kyrie or AD’s commitment. This is classic DA anything less shouldn’t surprise anyone. KG, attempts at CP3, etc.

If we lose out it’s not because DA didn’t try... that said if Kyrie leaves and AD leaves next year, at least the Pels will be fun to watch.

It may be classic DA to swing for AD, but one rather large difference when swinging for KG is that KG was the final piece of a credible Big 3.  The reason KG bought in so deeply was PP, RA and KG -- a championship-ready core.   Unless DA has something else up his sleeve, AD joins Al, Gordon and Jaylen -- none of whom are currently on the level of PP or RA.  A solid playoff team but not a super-team.  Makes AD a pretty huge gamble.

[Greenblood35]

Interesting discussion between Bobby Marks and Kevin Pelton on ESPN. Both seem to agree that we have the strongest package to offer. Pelton suggests that if Kryie isn't going to re-sign he would hold Tatum and the Memphis pick out of the deal. He says, Brown, Smart and all of this years picks could still be enticing. Not sure I agree with that though. At that point, I think LA and NY packages are better.

But I do agree, if Kyrie is gone, no way I include Tatum. People might be down on him after this year, but he is our best hope for the future, along with the Memphis pick.

[gouki88]

Shams saying the Cs are going hard after AD regardless of Kyrie or AD’s commitment. This is classic DA anything less shouldn’t surprise anyone. KG, attempts at CP3, etc.

If we lose out it’s not because DA didn’t try... that said if Kyrie leaves and AD leaves next year, at least the Pels will be fun to watch.

It may be classic DA to swing for AD, but one rather large difference when swinging for KG is that KG was the final piece of a credible Big 3.  The reason KG bought in so deeply was PP, RA and KG -- a championship-ready core.   Unless DA has something else up his sleeve, AD joins Al, Gordon and Jaylen -- none of whom are currently on the level of PP or RA.  A solid playoff team but not a super-team.  Makes AD a pretty huge gamble.

Maybe he’s got a Ray Allen deal up his sleeve? DA always seems to have 20 different plans

[Chief Macho]

Shams saying the Cs are going hard after AD regardless of Kyrie or AD’s commitment. This is classic DA anything less shouldn’t surprise anyone. KG, attempts at CP3, etc.

If we lose out it’s not because DA didn’t try... that said if Kyrie leaves and AD leaves next year, at least the Pels will be fun to watch.

It may be classic DA to swing for AD, but one rather large difference when swinging for KG is that KG was the final piece of a credible Big 3.  The reason KG bought in so deeply was PP, RA and KG -- a championship-ready core.   Unless DA has something else up his sleeve, AD joins Al, Gordon and Jaylen -- none of whom are currently on the level of PP or RA.  A solid playoff team but not a super-team.  Makes AD a pretty huge gamble.

Maybe he’s got a Ray Allen deal up his sleeve? DA always seems to have 20 different plans

it's the only way it would make any sense to take that risk and yet still,   when it fails and ad walks you're left starting all over again basically without any brooklyn picks.    it's the type of thing that gets front offices fired and ownership worrying about ticket sales and tv deals.    i just don't think it's a very smart thing to do. 

who could be the other guy that gets you over the hump with AD here and is possibly available?  Harden?   Westbrook?    does brown and picks and whatever get another star when tatums gone?

[ETNCeltics]

Shams saying the Cs are going hard after AD regardless of Kyrie or AD’s commitment. This is classic DA anything less shouldn’t surprise anyone. KG, attempts at CP3, etc.

If we lose out it’s not because DA didn’t try... that said if Kyrie leaves and AD leaves next year, at least the Pels will be fun to watch.

It may be classic DA to swing for AD, but one rather large difference when swinging for KG is that KG was the final piece of a credible Big 3.  The reason KG bought in so deeply was PP, RA and KG -- a championship-ready core.   Unless DA has something else up his sleeve, AD joins Al, Gordon and Jaylen -- none of whom are currently on the level of PP or RA.  A solid playoff team but not a super-team.  Makes AD a pretty huge gamble.

Maybe he’s got a Ray Allen deal up his sleeve? DA always seems to have 20 different plans

it's the only way it would make any sense to take that risk and yet still,   when it fails and ad walks you're left starting all over again basically without any brooklyn picks.    it's the type of thing that gets front offices fired and ownership worrying about ticket sales and tv deals.    i just don't think it's a very smart thing to do. 

who could be the other guy that gets you over the hump with AD here and is possibly available?  Harden?   Westbrook?    does brown and picks and whatever get another star when tatums gone?

Exactly.

The Celtics can't gamble with an asset as valuable as Tatum. If they trade him, they have to be certain about AD.

[Chief Macho]

Shams saying the Cs are going hard after AD regardless of Kyrie or AD’s commitment. This is classic DA anything less shouldn’t surprise anyone. KG, attempts at CP3, etc.

If we lose out it’s not because DA didn’t try... that said if Kyrie leaves and AD leaves next year, at least the Pels will be fun to watch.

It may be classic DA to swing for AD, but one rather large difference when swinging for KG is that KG was the final piece of a credible Big 3.  The reason KG bought in so deeply was PP, RA and KG -- a championship-ready core.   Unless DA has something else up his sleeve, AD joins Al, Gordon and Jaylen -- none of whom are currently on the level of PP or RA.  A solid playoff team but not a super-team.  Makes AD a pretty huge gamble.

Maybe he’s got a Ray Allen deal up his sleeve? DA always seems to have 20 different plans

it's the only way it would make any sense to take that risk and yet still,   when it fails and ad walks you're left starting all over again basically without any brooklyn picks.    it's the type of thing that gets front offices fired and ownership worrying about ticket sales and tv deals.    i just don't think it's a very smart thing to do. 

who could be the other guy that gets you over the hump with AD here and is possibly available?  Harden?   Westbrook?    does brown and picks and whatever get another star when tatums gone?

Exactly.

The Celtics can't gamble with an asset as valuable as Tatum. If they trade him, they have to be certain about AD.

the prudent move is to find another guy to pair with tatum and brown and be patient.    hope gordon comes back fully too.

[Kuberski33]

Shams saying the Cs are going hard after AD regardless of Kyrie or AD’s commitment. This is classic DA anything less shouldn’t surprise anyone. KG, attempts at CP3, etc.

If we lose out it’s not because DA didn’t try... that said if Kyrie leaves and AD leaves next year, at least the Pels will be fun to watch.

It may be classic DA to swing for AD, but one rather large difference when swinging for KG is that KG was the final piece of a credible Big 3.  The reason KG bought in so deeply was PP, RA and KG -- a championship-ready core.   Unless DA has something else up his sleeve, AD joins Al, Gordon and Jaylen -- none of whom are currently on the level of PP or RA.  A solid playoff team but not a super-team.  Makes AD a pretty huge gamble.

Maybe he’s got a Ray Allen deal up his sleeve? DA always seems to have 20 different plans

it's the only way it would make any sense to take that risk and yet still,   when it fails and ad walks you're left starting all over again basically without any brooklyn picks.    it's the type of thing that gets front offices fired and ownership worrying about ticket sales and tv deals.    i just don't think it's a very smart thing to do. 

who could be the other guy that gets you over the hump with AD here and is possibly available?  Harden?   Westbrook?    does brown and picks and whatever get another star when tatums gone?

Exactly.

The Celtics can't gamble with an asset as valuable as Tatum. If they trade him, they have to be certain about AD.

the prudent move is to find another guy to pair with tatum and brown and be patient.    hope gordon comes back fully too.

Re-sign Horford and replace Kyrie as best you can.  Options would include trading up in the draft, acquire best veteran pg you can get either by signing or dealing draft pick(s), bring back IT and hope, re-sign Rozier to a short term deal or a combination of the above.