Anthony Davis traded to Lakers(page 272)

[bdm860]

Nope, and I can’t understand the logic.

Zion is way too overhyped here. He’s basically Randle right now... AD isn’t waiting around for him to develop.

Knicks and Lakers have picks 3/4 in a 2man draft. If we want AD he’s ours. Ainge is probably pumping his fists as we speak.

Except I predict Zion will average 20-10 next year and a decent shot at the all star game.

as a rookie, james averaged 21 points and 5.5 rbs. durant averaged 20 and 4.4. so williamson is better than lebron or durant out of the gate?

shaquille was 23 and 14. williamson is that good in your opinion. we shall see.

I mean Elton Brand averaged 20/10 as a rookie.  Tyreke Evans averaged 20/5/6.  KAT averaged 18/11.  OJ Mayo averaged 19.  Luka Doncic just averaged 21/8/6 and Trae Young put up 19/8. 

If we're going all the way back to Shaq, then the guy I see Zion compared to the most is Larry Johnson who averaged 19/11/4/1 as a rookie.

You don't haven't to be one of the greatest of all time to come out the gate strong as a rookie.

How many of those guys were the second fiddle? Let alone second to an MVP caliber big man?

What does that have to do with Zion's situation?  Nothing in the comment string I replied to said that was based on Zion and AD playing together.  I thought general assumption was AD was gone regardless, I know that's what I think is going to happen, that bridge has been burned.

hwangjini just made it seem like only the best of the best are a capable of putting up those kind of numbers as a rookie, that it would mean Zion is better than LeBron and Durant as out the gate.  I just don't think that's true at all.  Actually I have no real opinion on that matter, I guess it's conceivable Zion could be better than them as rookies (especially Durant as he was/is a beanpole and Zion has that grown man muscle) but it doesn't mean that the trajectory continues.  Regardless, great numbers as a rookie are not inconceivable, and doesn't mean you'll become one of the greatest players of your generation either.

[Tr1boy]

AD maybe will have a change of heart with Zion now in the picture

Imagine if he fishes to come join the pelicans lol

[Tr1boy]

Nick or Fafnir

I was right after all

Lakers now can trade Kuzma and #4 for AD

Which would be better than Tatum and three crappy picksso it may take Jaylen and Tatum at this rate

[nickagneta]

Nick or Fafnir

I was right after all

Lakers now can trade Kuzma and #4 for AD

Which would be better than Tatum and three crappy picksso it may take Jaylen and Tatum at this rate

Tatum and Smart alone is better than that package. Then add the picks and it's a no brainer that Boston has a better offer.

[gouki88]

Nick or Fafnir

I was right after all

Lakers now can trade Kuzma and #4 for AD

Which would be better than Tatum and three crappy picksso it may take Jaylen and Tatum at this rate

Just how is Kyle Kuzma & the #4 pick in a 3 man draft better than Tatum, Smart, Williams & picks?? Kuzma is a below average 3 point and free throw shooter, and he's nearly 3 years older than Tatum.

Tatum has more value than both their most attractive pieces, let alone injury-prone Ball or Ingram, whose entire career is questionable now.

[Tr1boy]

Nick or Fafnir

I was right after all

Lakers now can trade Kuzma and #4 for AD

Which would be better than Tatum and three crappy picksso it may take Jaylen and Tatum at this rate

Tatum and Smart alone is better than that package. Then add the picks and it's a no brainer that Boston has a better offer.

in your eyes

but in Pelicans eyes they may want that #4 pick and may like Hachimura or White better

Marcus Smart doesn't move the needle. He is a super role player/hustle player. Not a player to build around

[Tr1boy]

Nick or Fafnir

I was right after all

Lakers now can trade Kuzma and #4 for AD

Which would be better than Tatum and three crappy picksso it may take Jaylen and Tatum at this rate

Just how is Kyle Kuzma & the #4 pick in a 3 man draft better than Tatum, Smart, Williams & picks?? Kuzma is a below average 3 point and free throw shooter, and he's nearly 3 years older than Tatum.

Tatum has more value than both their most attractive pieces, let alone injury-prone Ball or Ingram, whose entire career is questionable now.

Kuzma #4, flip ingram for a #1, flip ball for another #1

We will see how deep the Celts are willing to go for a guy who may just walk after a season

vs the Lakers who know AD will stay long term


Tatum + Smart and 3 crappy picks may look good in your eyes. But for Griffing he may prefer the Lakers package.... it's not like one is superior to the other.... unless Celts double down and give up both Tatum and Brown for AD

[gpap]

Though I think the chances of Kyrie returning diminish by the day, Ainge believes he can convince Kyrie to stay by acquiring Anthony Davis

Still the ideal scenario! (IMO)

If Kyrie comes back, no way in hell he has another playoff dud like this season. Especially if AD is here.
https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2019/05/anthony-davis-trade-rumors-2019-danny-ainge-believes-boston-celtics-trading-for-davis-would-secure-kyrie-irving-report.html

According to the Athletic’s Frank Isola, Celtics GM Danny Ainge still wants to make a deal for Davis, believing that Kyrie Irving will re-sign if Davis is brought on board.

Not getting my hopes too high, but there's still a chance.

[gpap]

Nick or Fafnir

I was right after all

Lakers now can trade Kuzma and #4 for AD

Which would be better than Tatum and three crappy picksso it may take Jaylen and Tatum at this rate

Fine by me.

[Tr1boy]

Nick or Fafnir

I was right after all

Lakers now can trade Kuzma and #4 for AD

Which would be better than Tatum and three crappy picksso it may take Jaylen and Tatum at this rate

Fine by me.

are you crazy??

no way ...too much to give up

[jpotter33]

Nick or Fafnir

I was right after all

Lakers now can trade Kuzma and #4 for AD

Which would be better than Tatum and three crappy picksso it may take Jaylen and Tatum at this rate

Tatum and Smart alone is better than that package. Then add the picks and it's a no brainer that Boston has a better offer.

in your eyes

but in Pelicans eyes they may want that #4 pick and may like Hachimura or White better

Marcus Smart doesn't move the needle. He is a super role player/hustle player. Not a player to build around

Yeah, like the EXACT type of player that Griffin stated he would want in an AD trade. He said he wanted three things:
1) a surefire blue chip prospect (Tatum);
2) a good vet with character to help lead the young guys (Smart); abd
3) a bunch of picks

What other teams can create a package that comes close to meeting that criteria and beats ours? No one, that’s who.

Your posts are getting more outlandish by the day, Triboy.

[Tr1boy]

Nick or Fafnir

I was right after all

Lakers now can trade Kuzma and #4 for AD

Which would be better than Tatum and three crappy picksso it may take Jaylen and Tatum at this rate

Tatum and Smart alone is better than that package. Then add the picks and it's a no brainer that Boston has a better offer.

in your eyes

but in Pelicans eyes they may want that #4 pick and may like Hachimura or White better

Marcus Smart doesn't move the needle. He is a super role player/hustle player. Not a player to build around

Yeah, like the EXACT type of player that Griffin stated he would want in an AD trade. He said he wanted three things:
1) a surefire blue chip prospect (Tatum);
2) a good vet with character to help lead the young guys (Smart); abd
3) a bunch of picks

What other teams can create a package that comes close to meeting that criteria and beats ours? No one, that’s who.

Your posts are getting more outlandish by the day, Triboy.

want to bet?

you want to forcefeed Tatum...but what if Griffin is not a big fan

what if he wants Brown...you ok with that?

you can't just want to forcefeed him Tatum because it fits your agenda

come on

[gouki88]

Nick or Fafnir

I was right after all

Lakers now can trade Kuzma and #4 for AD

Which would be better than Tatum and three crappy picksso it may take Jaylen and Tatum at this rate

Just how is Kyle Kuzma & the #4 pick in a 3 man draft better than Tatum, Smart, Williams & picks?? Kuzma is a below average 3 point and free throw shooter, and he's nearly 3 years older than Tatum.

Tatum has more value than both their most attractive pieces, let alone injury-prone Ball or Ingram, whose entire career is questionable now.

Kuzma #4, flip ingram for a #1, flip ball for another #1

We will see how deep the Celts are willing to go for a guy who may just walk after a season

vs the Lakers who know AD will stay long term


Tatum + Smart and 3 crappy picks may look good in your eyes. But for Griffing he may prefer the Lakers package.... it's not like one is superior to the other.... unless Celts double down and give up both Tatum and Brown for AD

Dude. Brandon Ingram's career is in question - there is no way he gets a first rounder. Who trades their pick for him?

Who wants Lonzo too? He previously has said he will flat out refuse to play for New Orleans.

Griffin has also said he wants exactly what we have to offer:
1) A top prospect - Tatum / Brown
2) A good character veteran - Smart
3) Lots of picks - our own first, LAC, Memphis, Sacramento & future picks are all things we have.

[nickagneta]

Nick or Fafnir

I was right after all

Lakers now can trade Kuzma and #4 for AD

Which would be better than Tatum and three crappy picksso it may take Jaylen and Tatum at this rate

Tatum and Smart alone is better than that package. Then add the picks and it's a no brainer that Boston has a better offer.

in your eyes

but in Pelicans eyes they may want that #4 pick and may like Hachimura or White better

Marcus Smart doesn't move the needle. He is a super role player/hustle player. Not a player to build around

In most people's eyes, triboy. Not mine.

And just to remind you about what David Griffin said he would want in a trade for AD, here is what he said:

“If I was holding their cards, I would probably want to be in a situation where I got at least one young player that projected potentially to be a star. Draft picks, an elite role player, someone that could further the cause for us as a winner because when you’re bringing young kids to the floor, you need those guys to galvanize a group.”

Your weak proposal doesn't net New Orleans that potential star player or a solid vet. Kuzma is at best a very good role player. His defense really holds him back. No one in this draft projects to have star potential other than Zion and Morant and neither will be there at #4.

Tatum has a really high ceiling, one with superstar scoring potential. And Smart is not only a veteran that knows how to win and help teach the youth, but he is, unlike Kuzma, an elite role player because of his ability to guard 1 through 4 at an elite level, his ability to create for others, his passing, his hustle, his tenacity and his much improved scoring efficiency this year.

Boston has exactly what Griffin said he wants. LAL doesn't.

[Tr1boy]

Nick or Fafnir

I was right after all

Lakers now can trade Kuzma and #4 for AD

Which would be better than Tatum and three crappy picksso it may take Jaylen and Tatum at this rate

Just how is Kyle Kuzma & the #4 pick in a 3 man draft better than Tatum, Smart, Williams & picks?? Kuzma is a below average 3 point and free throw shooter, and he's nearly 3 years older than Tatum.

Tatum has more value than both their most attractive pieces, let alone injury-prone Ball or Ingram, whose entire career is questionable now.

Kuzma #4, flip ingram for a #1, flip ball for another #1

We will see how deep the Celts are willing to go for a guy who may just walk after a season

vs the Lakers who know AD will stay long term


Tatum + Smart and 3 crappy picks may look good in your eyes. But for Griffing he may prefer the Lakers package.... it's not like one is superior to the other.... unless Celts double down and give up both Tatum and Brown for AD

Dude. Brandon Ingram's career is in question - there is no way he gets a first rounder. Who trades their pick for him?

Who wants Lonzo too? He previously has said he will flat out refuse to play for New Orleans.

Griffin has also said he wants exactly what we have to offer:
1) A top prospect - Tatum / Brown
2) A good character veteran - Smart
3) Lots of picks - our own first, LAC, Memphis, Sacramento & future picks are all things we have.

Lonzo will ok to play for phoenix

Ingram regardless of his state can still fetch a 1st ...maybe not a high first

#4 pick is the key...it changes the landscape dramatically

look at these prospects alone...  I would rather take either one vs Tatum, who has burnt 2 years off his contract and sooner than later demand a payday

Coby White
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH9eh6ahgaM

Hachimura
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lgaz4GPOago

Hachimura looks like a stud.  He may even move up to #3.... Pelicans then would draft Barrett with the #4