Anthony Davis traded to Lakers(page 272)

[hodgy03038]

That's honestly not a bad offer. Sure the Celtics can beat that this summer, but that's still a lot of value.

It's really not that much value.  It's a lot of quantity, but you're trading 1.5 years of a top-5 superstar for two average starters, two late round picks, and a bad young PG with some modest potential who brings a huge distraction with him.

Well, New Orleans has to explore the market and collect more assets.

As example:

Let Ball + '19 Lakers pick go to Phoenix for Josh Jackson + Phoenix pick.
Then trade Julius Randle + Darius Miller + Cheik Diallo to Detroit for Jon Leuer and a 1st round pick.
Trade Rondo + Stephenson to Miami for Olynyk + Miami pick.

And then use most of those assets to trade for Beal and Towns. Get a big three of Beal, Towns and Holiday (all under contract for at least 3 years).

I think Phoenix would laugh at that one. Ball + his baggage plus a draft pick in the twenties  for Jackson and a lottery pick that could be #1 overall.

[Roy H.]

That's honestly not a bad offer. Sure the Celtics can beat that this summer, but that's still a lot of value.

It's really not that much value.  It's a lot of quantity, but you're trading 1.5 years of a top-5 superstar for two average starters, two late round picks, and a bad young PG with some modest potential who brings a huge distraction with him.

Well, New Orleans has to explore the market and collect more assets.

As example:

Let Ball + '19 Lakers pick go to Phoenix for Josh Jackson + Phoenix pick.
Then trade Julius Randle + Darius Miller + Cheik Diallo to Detroit for Jon Leuer and a 1st round pick.
Trade Rondo + Stevenson to Miami for Olynyk + Miami pick.

And then use most of those assets to trade for Beal and Towns. Get a big three of Beal, Towns and Holiday (all under contract for at least 3 years).

If that garbage could bring back Beal and Towns, the Lakers would be making that trade.

Phoenix isn’t giving a #1 for a PG putting up Terry Rozier bench numbers.

Detroit isn’t giving up a #1 for straight garbage.

Miami isn’t giving up a #1 for expiring contracts.

[SHAQATTACK]

could this be the longest blog thread ever ? 

If LA does not get Davis , this might go 500 pages

[KGs Knee]

There would be a lot less drama if Kyrie would just come out and say I am staying in Boston just like I said early in the season. Why doesn't he do that? Why does he potentially sabotage his own team's possible improvement WITH AD? I just don't get it. Is he a part of this whole Rich Paul powerplay for LeBron?

What happens if Ainge fails to offer Kyrie the contract he wants?   What happens if Ainge trades Kyrie first?  What happens any number of unforeseeable things that are out of Kyrie's control make re-signing in Boston untenable?

Kyrie can't promise anything, because him staying isn't even entirely up to him.  Kyrie already said everything he could, and it still wasn't good enough for some.  It's obvious to him no answer he gives will please everyone.  That has to be frustrating when you know no answer you give will be good enough, but you're going to continued to be asked anyways.

[RMO]

Fletcher Mackel
‏Verified account @FletcherWDSU
1h1 hour ago

Fletcher Mackel Retweeted Scott Kushner

Follow up on Scott’s tweet & what I reported earlier.

Some in Pelicans leadership like LA offer (a lot).

But as I said in previous tweet, key NOLA decision makers (Demps/Ferry) believe they can get Jayson Tatum from Boston in summer & will not accept Lakers offer (right now).

Fletcher Mackel added,
Scott Kushner
 @ScottDKushner
Based on every indiciation the Pelicans have been given, Danny Ainge and the Celtics are not scared off by any of the Anthony Davis reports and fully plan to go after AD this summer.…
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[SHAQATTACK]

It's funny, I actually think the Lakers have offered about all they can.

The problem is that none Lonzo, Ingram or Kuzma profile as All-Stars like Tatum. Had they drafted Mitchell, Fox, Tatum, probably even Markannen, this deal is probably done.

Yup ....even the lakers theads have video of Tatum in playoffs ....with comments like ..." We have nobody that has played like he has in NBA playoff  at 20 years old ."  And they admitt Brown and Rozier have been there too under playoff pressure and took Brons best .

Davis is a Ferrari .....three Mustangs don't beat a Ferrari in any fair race. 

I m NO GM ...  I WANT draft Picks ....boat loads .....then i buy my own players or trade for them.  What is Kuzma gonna buy ya ?  Bologna

I WANT .."STEAK"


besides those 7 players Lakers want to get rid of , the only one s they could use really is Zubac and Hart .   They don't want to pay Ingram and Kuzma anyway .  Lonzo is just in the way ....he is in Brons way

[KGs Knee]

I just hope all of this doesn't start to negatively effect Tatum.

[RodyTur10]

That's honestly not a bad offer. Sure the Celtics can beat that this summer, but that's still a lot of value.

It's really not that much value.  It's a lot of quantity, but you're trading 1.5 years of a top-5 superstar for two average starters, two late round picks, and a bad young PG with some modest potential who brings a huge distraction with him.

Well, New Orleans has to explore the market and collect more assets.

As example:

Let Ball + '19 Lakers pick go to Phoenix for Josh Jackson + Phoenix pick.
Then trade Julius Randle + Darius Miller + Cheik Diallo to Detroit for Jon Leuer and a 1st round pick.
Trade Rondo + Stevenson to Miami for Olynyk + Miami pick.

And then use most of those assets to trade for Beal and Towns. Get a big three of Beal, Towns and Holiday (all under contract for at least 3 years).

If that garbage could bring back Beal and Towns, the Lakers would be making that trade.

Phoenix isn’t giving a #1 for a PG putting up Terry Rozier bench numbers.

Detroit isn’t giving up a #1 for straight garbage.

Miami isn’t giving up a #1 for expiring contracts.

I don't know about Phoenix, they need a point guard pretty desperately and Ball is a very good fit with Booker.
 
Detroit is out of the playoffs right now, they need immediate help to get there. Leuer is useless, so Randle + a shooter in Miller is interesting for them and Detroit has shown before that they don't care much about their draft picks.

And for Miami getting Olynyk off their payroll saves them a lot of money, since they're so deep in the luxury tax. And at the mean time they get Rondo who can help them in the playoffs. That's easily worth a mid-first i.m.o.

I'm convinced that the Lakers could get Beal or Towns if they wanted to.
But they want the best in the business: Davis.

[Roy H.]

There would be a lot less drama if Kyrie would just come out and say I am staying in Boston just like I said early in the season. Why doesn't he do that? Why does he potentially sabotage his own team's possible improvement WITH AD? I just don't get it. Is he a part of this whole Rich Paul powerplay for LeBron?

What happens if Ainge fails to offer Kyrie the contract he wants?   What happens if Ainge trades Kyrie first?  What happens any number of unforeseeable things that are out of Kyrie's control make re-signing in Boston untenable?

Kyrie can't promise anything, because him staying isn't even entirely up to him.  Kyrie already said everything he could, and it still wasn't good enough for some.  It's obvious to him no answer he gives will please everyone.  That has to be frustrating when you know no answer you give will be good enough, but you're going to continued to be asked anyways.

I call BS on this a bit. Very few people were criticizing his commitment  after his “Ill be back if you’ll have me” speech.  It was only after his talk with NY reporters where 1) he revoked his earlier commitment; 2) indicated that that commitment was made out of emotion; and 3) indicated he didn’t owe anybody anything.

It’s the exact opposite of what Kemba Walker has done. If there’s blowback, it’s because of Kyrie and nobody else.

[Roy H.]

That's honestly not a bad offer. Sure the Celtics can beat that this summer, but that's still a lot of value.

It's really not that much value.  It's a lot of quantity, but you're trading 1.5 years of a top-5 superstar for two average starters, two late round picks, and a bad young PG with some modest potential who brings a huge distraction with him.

Well, New Orleans has to explore the market and collect more assets.

As example:

Let Ball + '19 Lakers pick go to Phoenix for Josh Jackson + Phoenix pick.
Then trade Julius Randle + Darius Miller + Cheik Diallo to Detroit for Jon Leuer and a 1st round pick.
Trade Rondo + Stevenson to Miami for Olynyk + Miami pick.

And then use most of those assets to trade for Beal and Towns. Get a big three of Beal, Towns and Holiday (all under contract for at least 3 years).

If that garbage could bring back Beal and Towns, the Lakers would be making that trade.

Phoenix isn’t giving a #1 for a PG putting up Terry Rozier bench numbers.

Detroit isn’t giving up a #1 for straight garbage.

Miami isn’t giving up a #1 for expiring contracts.

I don't know about Phoenix, they need a point guard pretty desperately and Ball is a very good fit with Booker.
 
Detroit is out of the playoffs right now, they need immediate help to get there. Leuer is useless, so Randle + a shooter in Miller is interesting for them and Detroit has shown before that they don't care much about their draft picks.

And for Miami getting Olynyk off their payroll saves them a lot of money, since they're so deep in the luxury tax. And at the mean time they get Rondo who can help them in the playoffs. That's easily worth a mid-first i.m.o.

I'm convinced that the Lakers could get Beal or Towns if they wanted to.
But they want the best in the business: Davis.

You indicated Beal *and* KAT. That’s better than Davis.

But, agree to disagree about teams handing out first rounders like candy.  I suspect that if any of those trades were remotely plausible, something similar would be reported somewhere.

[LarBrd33]

There would be a lot less drama if Kyrie would just come out and say I am staying in Boston just like I said early in the season. Why doesn't he do that? Why does he potentially sabotage his own team's possible improvement WITH AD? I just don't get it. Is he a part of this whole Rich Paul powerplay for LeBron?

I explain it in this video - https://youtu.be/26bvCeGQaTI .  He wants to make sure he gets a say in the direction of the team - something he probably deserves considering his stature... and coming out and saying "i'm definitely staying" takes away any of that leverage.

Whether or not we keep Tatum/Brown or trade Hayward/Horford or go after Davis or work a sign-and-trade for Kevin Durant - Kyrie wants to make sure he has a say in that.  It makes sense for him to play his cards and he's playing them.

Everything still suggests he's staying long-term. 

I am sorry but that really makes no sense to "NOT" say anything like he is staying which might jeopardize his "say" in the direction of the team. Are you saying he is playing it this way to force Danny into being his puppet like LeBron does with his management?

Nope.  Watch the video... I explain it.  It's just about making sure whatever happens he does right by himself and his career... but he's still consistently said his plan is to re-sign.  That plan could change, but that's the plan right now.  He wants to be involved in the discussions.  It's fine.

[RodyTur10]

That's honestly not a bad offer. Sure the Celtics can beat that this summer, but that's still a lot of value.

It's really not that much value.  It's a lot of quantity, but you're trading 1.5 years of a top-5 superstar for two average starters, two late round picks, and a bad young PG with some modest potential who brings a huge distraction with him.

Well, New Orleans has to explore the market and collect more assets.

As example:

Let Ball + '19 Lakers pick go to Phoenix for Josh Jackson + Phoenix pick.
Then trade Julius Randle + Darius Miller + Cheik Diallo to Detroit for Jon Leuer and a 1st round pick.
Trade Rondo + Stevenson to Miami for Olynyk + Miami pick.

And then use most of those assets to trade for Beal and Towns. Get a big three of Beal, Towns and Holiday (all under contract for at least 3 years).

If that garbage could bring back Beal and Towns, the Lakers would be making that trade.

Phoenix isn’t giving a #1 for a PG putting up Terry Rozier bench numbers.

Detroit isn’t giving up a #1 for straight garbage.

Miami isn’t giving up a #1 for expiring contracts.

I don't know about Phoenix, they need a point guard pretty desperately and Ball is a very good fit with Booker.
 
Detroit is out of the playoffs right now, they need immediate help to get there. Leuer is useless, so Randle + a shooter in Miller is interesting for them and Detroit has shown before that they don't care much about their draft picks.

And for Miami getting Olynyk off their payroll saves them a lot of money, since they're so deep in the luxury tax. And at the mean time they get Rondo who can help them in the playoffs. That's easily worth a mid-first i.m.o.

I'm convinced that the Lakers could get Beal or Towns if they wanted to.
But they want the best in the business: Davis.

You indicated Beal *and* KAT. That’s better than Davis.

But, agree to disagree about teams handing out first rounders like candy.  I suspect that if any of those trades were remotely plausible, something similar would be reported somewhere.

Yes, Beal and KAT for New Orleans, since they will add their own assets (picks mostly).

It's probably not easy to pull off, but if I were New Orleans I would try.

[RMO]

Solomon Hill out tonight.

Would he really need to be held out for trade reasons?  Would just be a contract for the Pelicans to dump.

[hodgy03038]

Solomon Hill out tonight.

Would he really need to be held out for trade reasons?  Would just be a contract for the Pelicans to dump.

He is on the Pelicans so they wouldn't be dumping him but if he is traded LA wants him healthy because they will need players after giving up 12 guys for 2.

[RMO]

Solomon Hill out tonight.

Would he really need to be held out for trade reasons?  Would just be a contract for the Pelicans to dump.

He is on the Pelicans so they wouldn't be dumping him but if he is traded LA wants him healthy because they will need players after giving up 12 guys for 2.

Thought I read the lakers would likely stretch him, but I guess that doesn't have to happen right away..