Kyrie the most stable Cs pg in the last 10yrs

[coffee425]

With the new Rondo stories that came out, it's already shaping up to be that Kyrie is the most stable voice at point guard for the last 10 years with the Cs. I know it's early in his time in green, but it's hilarious to me that the flat-earth troll is already less divisive than the last two players at this position. Rondo was only beloved during the Big3 era, and even they didn't love him very much apparently. Isaiah, from day 1, had skeptics within the fan base; and always had some drama regarding contract, calling out coaches, trashtalking opponents.

For all his weaknesses and strange (non-basketball) comments, Kyrie is at least a stable figure. Just goes out and plays, with the occasional cheesy movie in there. At least for now....

[Monkhouse]

TP.

I loved Rondo, but I think you can make the case here, that he was probably one of the most immature players on our team. Rondo, for all of his high intelligence, and methodical basketball smarts, just doesn't know how to socially interact in a professional environment as a leader. It's sometimes I wished we could've brought Horford over years ago; his due diligence and his knack for being a positive vocal leader is clearly something that Rondo needed to be taught. KG was the consummate teammate, and a leader, but I think his style of mentoring is more tactful and more up in your face. I think that actually led to feeding Rondo's ego, and might've done the opposite.

[celticsclay]

TP.

I loved Rondo, but I think you can make the case here, that he was probably one of the most immature players on our team. Rondo, for all of his high intelligence, and methodical basketball smarts, just doesn't know how to socially interact in a professional environment as a leader. It's sometimes I wished we could've brought Horford over years ago; his due diligence and his knack for being a positive vocal leader is clearly something that Rondo needed to be taught. KG was the consummate teammate, and a leader, but I think his style of mentoring is more tactful and more up in your face. I think that actually led to feeding Rondo's ego, and might've done the opposite.

I thought everyone liked Rondo on the Celtics during those years except Ray Allen, who is showing in his teenage girl diaries that he had issues with lots of players for perceived injustices and microaggressions like buying him dinner while making a joke.

[Moranis]

I don't think Rondo was very well liked.  I think he was tolerated.  I mean Doc Rivers was publically saying things like Rondo was stubborn and impossible to coach.  Ainge obviously never really liked him as he was constantly looking to trade him and was consistently bringing in veteran PG's because he never knew when Rondo would fly off the handle. 

[GreenEnvy]

TP.

I loved Rondo, but I think you can make the case here, that he was probably one of the most immature players on our team. Rondo, for all of his high intelligence, and methodical basketball smarts, just doesn't know how to socially interact in a professional environment as a leader. It's sometimes I wished we could've brought Horford over years ago; his due diligence and his knack for being a positive vocal leader is clearly something that Rondo needed to be taught. KG was the consummate teammate, and a leader, but I think his style of mentoring is more tactful and more up in your face. I think that actually led to feeding Rondo's ego, and might've done the opposite.

I thought everyone liked Rondo on the Celtics during those years except Ray Allen, who is showing in his teenage girl diaries that he had issues with lots of players for perceived injustices and microaggressions like buying him dinner while making a joke.

I got the opinion he butted heads with just about everyone, from Doc and Danny to even KG. He is very opinionated and probably an egomaniac. Everyone respected him and liked him except for Ray (a beta). But I’m sure he’s very difficult to be around, on and off the court.

[Monkhouse]

TP.

I loved Rondo, but I think you can make the case here, that he was probably one of the most immature players on our team. Rondo, for all of his high intelligence, and methodical basketball smarts, just doesn't know how to socially interact in a professional environment as a leader. It's sometimes I wished we could've brought Horford over years ago; his due diligence and his knack for being a positive vocal leader is clearly something that Rondo needed to be taught. KG was the consummate teammate, and a leader, but I think his style of mentoring is more tactful and more up in your face. I think that actually led to feeding Rondo's ego, and might've done the opposite.

I thought everyone liked Rondo on the Celtics during those years except Ray Allen, who is showing in his teenage girl diaries that he had issues with lots of players for perceived injustices and microaggressions like buying him dinner while making a joke.

I got the impression over the years that Rajon Rondo was sort of a prima donna/diva. He constantly butted heads with Doc, didn't seem to enjoy the motion offense that Stevens tried to employ, and also didn't seem to lead on the court defensively, (putting his body on the line like he used to, back in his 07-10 days,) nor was he ever a media starlet, which also painted the Celtics negatively at times. Even though, that wasn't the presumed intention from Rondo.

He never seemed to accept the role as a leader, and never really seemed to take blame on himself, always deflecting it on others. I get the issues that stemmed from both player's perspectives, but Rondo eventually being given the reins to the offense, should've stepped up and allowed Ray to flourish for his own benefit. There were times where I would watch Rondo run in transition on the fast break, and Ray would follow right behind and be wide open, and instead Rondo would dish it to a cutting big man.

[JBcat]

Well I guess if you mean by stable that you feel confident he will be our PG for a very long time then yes.  As good as IT was last year with some MVP votes there was a cloud over his head with his contract situation and what we were going to do.  I guess with Rondo it wasn’t always stable with Chris Paul and Curry among other rumors at one point, and then Rondo’s injury.

Why stop at 10 years?  Maybe in the last 30 years Irving you can most confidently say he should be our PG for a very long time.  Very stable. 

Why stop with Irving?  Brown and Tatum could turn into our most stable wings since Pierce where you can say they should be on the team for a long time.

[Roy H.]

TP.

I loved Rondo, but I think you can make the case here, that he was probably one of the most immature players on our team. Rondo, for all of his high intelligence, and methodical basketball smarts, just doesn't know how to socially interact in a professional environment as a leader. It's sometimes I wished we could've brought Horford over years ago; his due diligence and his knack for being a positive vocal leader is clearly something that Rondo needed to be taught. KG was the consummate teammate, and a leader, but I think his style of mentoring is more tactful and more up in your face. I think that actually led to feeding Rondo's ego, and might've done the opposite.

I thought everyone liked Rondo on the Celtics during those years except Ray Allen, who is showing in his teenage girl diaries that he had issues with lots of players for perceived injustices and microaggressions like buying him dinner while making a joke.

It’s hard to say. Doc’s famous quote to Rondo was “Do you know your teammates hate playing with you?”  But, most guys seem to have embraced him.

[RJ87]

With the new Rondo stories that came out, it's already shaping up to be that Kyrie is the most stable voice at point guard for the last 10 years with the Cs. I know it's early in his time in green, but it's hilarious to me that the flat-earth troll is already less divisive than the last two players at this position. Rondo was only beloved during the Big3 era, and even they didn't love him very much apparently. Isaiah, from day 1, had skeptics within the fan base; and always had some drama regarding contract, calling out coaches, trashtalking opponents.

For all his weaknesses and strange (non-basketball) comments, Kyrie is at least a stable figure. Just goes out and plays, with the occasional cheesy movie in there. At least for now....

Most of these new "leaks" regarding Rondo are coming from Ray Allen's book. You're literally only getting one side of a three sided story from a guy that admitted they had a rocky relationship. Rondo wasn't perfect by any stretch, but I don't think the positive things guys like Avery Bradley, Brandon Bass and others have said about playing with him should just be completely dismissed because Ray wrote a tell-all. With that said, it's telling that Rondo - despite all of his projected warts - has maintained relationships with KG, Paul, Perk and others while Ray's off playing golf.

[celticsclay]

TP.

I loved Rondo, but I think you can make the case here, that he was probably one of the most immature players on our team. Rondo, for all of his high intelligence, and methodical basketball smarts, just doesn't know how to socially interact in a professional environment as a leader. It's sometimes I wished we could've brought Horford over years ago; his due diligence and his knack for being a positive vocal leader is clearly something that Rondo needed to be taught. KG was the consummate teammate, and a leader, but I think his style of mentoring is more tactful and more up in your face. I think that actually led to feeding Rondo's ego, and might've done the opposite.

I thought everyone liked Rondo on the Celtics during those years except Ray Allen, who is showing in his teenage girl diaries that he had issues with lots of players for perceived injustices and microaggressions like buying him dinner while making a joke.

It’s hard to say. Doc’s famous quote to Rondo was “Do you know your teammates hate playing with you?”  But, most guys seem to have embraced him.

Was that early on and he got better after it?

[RJ87]

TP.

I loved Rondo, but I think you can make the case here, that he was probably one of the most immature players on our team. Rondo, for all of his high intelligence, and methodical basketball smarts, just doesn't know how to socially interact in a professional environment as a leader. It's sometimes I wished we could've brought Horford over years ago; his due diligence and his knack for being a positive vocal leader is clearly something that Rondo needed to be taught. KG was the consummate teammate, and a leader, but I think his style of mentoring is more tactful and more up in your face. I think that actually led to feeding Rondo's ego, and might've done the opposite.

I thought everyone liked Rondo on the Celtics during those years except Ray Allen, who is showing in his teenage girl diaries that he had issues with lots of players for perceived injustices and microaggressions like buying him dinner while making a joke.

It’s hard to say. Doc’s famous quote to Rondo was “Do you know your teammates hate playing with you?”  But, most guys seem to have embraced him.

Was that early on and he got better after it?

That was from his rookie year.

[nickagneta]

With the new Rondo stories that came out, it's already shaping up to be that Kyrie is the most stable voice at point guard for the last 10 years with the Cs. I know it's early in his time in green, but it's hilarious to me that the flat-earth troll is already less divisive than the last two players at this position. Rondo was only beloved during the Big3 era, and even they didn't love him very much apparently. Isaiah, from day 1, had skeptics within the fan base; and always had some drama regarding contract, calling out coaches, trashtalking opponents.

For all his weaknesses and strange (non-basketball) comments, Kyrie is at least a stable figure. Just goes out and plays, with the occasional cheesy movie in there. At least for now....

I don't care if armchair GMs here thought IT was more of a 6th man or not worth the max IT was looking for, but in that locker room and on that court, IT was a massive stabilizing force who's sheer will got us into the playoffs 2 years in a row before getting Horford and then having one of the greatest offensive seasons by any player in Celtic history.

The 2 1/2 years IT was here we had a very stable PG situation. Just as good or more so than the one Kyrie has provided this year by Kyrie

[2short]

Our old friend rondo has posted 6 assists in 7 minutes so far tonight

[tarheelsxxiii]

With the new Rondo stories that came out, it's already shaping up to be that Kyrie is the most stable voice at point guard for the last 10 years with the Cs. I know it's early in his time in green, but it's hilarious to me that the flat-earth troll is already less divisive than the last two players at this position. Rondo was only beloved during the Big3 era, and even they didn't love him very much apparently. Isaiah, from day 1, had skeptics within the fan base; and always had some drama regarding contract, calling out coaches, trashtalking opponents.

For all his weaknesses and strange (non-basketball) comments, Kyrie is at least a stable figure. Just goes out and plays, with the occasional cheesy movie in there. At least for now....

I don't care if armchair GMs here thought IT was more of a 6th man or not worth the max IT was looking for, but in that locker room and on that court, IT was a massive stabilizing force who's sheer will got us into the playoffs 2 years in a row before getting Horford and then having one of the greatest offensive seasons by any player in Celtic history.

The 2 1/2 years IT was here we had a very stable PG situation. Just as good or more so than the one Kyrie has provided this year by Kyrie

I don't know what has changed in your daily routine, but the recent posts about IT, Lillard, etc. have been beautiful.   

[nickagneta]

With the new Rondo stories that came out, it's already shaping up to be that Kyrie is the most stable voice at point guard for the last 10 years with the Cs. I know it's early in his time in green, but it's hilarious to me that the flat-earth troll is already less divisive than the last two players at this position. Rondo was only beloved during the Big3 era, and even they didn't love him very much apparently. Isaiah, from day 1, had skeptics within the fan base; and always had some drama regarding contract, calling out coaches, trashtalking opponents.

For all his weaknesses and strange (non-basketball) comments, Kyrie is at least a stable figure. Just goes out and plays, with the occasional cheesy movie in there. At least for now....

I don't care if armchair GMs here thought IT was more of a 6th man or not worth the max IT was looking for, but in that locker room and on that court, IT was a massive stabilizing force who's sheer will got us into the playoffs 2 years in a row before getting Horford and then having one of the greatest offensive seasons by any player in Celtic history.

The 2 1/2 years IT was here we had a very stable PG situation. Just as good or more so than the one Kyrie has provided this year by Kyrie

I don't know what has changed in your daily routine, but the recent posts about IT, Lillard, etc. have been beautiful.   

I always liked IT. Check my old posts, I always defended him when people called him just a sixth man or not worth a max contract. IT deserves a lot of respect from Celtics fans for his play here. He was the reason we went to three straight playoffs and the ECFs.

I still like the trade for Kyrie and am not crazy about some stuff IT said about the team after he left, but when he was here, he was the heart and soul of this team and extremely stable. Saying otherwise, I think, is fake news.