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Re: Greg Monroe a big liability???
« Reply #60 on: February 27, 2018, 10:43:12 AM »

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Monroe is fine when Baynes and Horford get into foul trouble.

The second he enters the game the opponent attacks the paint. The entire league knows he struggles to defend, mostly because many have kicked the tires on acquiring him in the past.

The best bet is to have Theis on the floor next to him to take up some defensive slack. But the disturbing part is he has little effect on offense just yet.

I'm sure he'll help on the boards, and score a little down low eventually. I was excited to see him come to the Celtics at first, but after watching him these last few games he looks like he doesn't fit with the  Celtic style of play.

Yeah Celtics are starting to look like one of those regular season "Fool's Gold" teams that looks unstoppable during the season when they are raining and splashing threes, then falls apart when the defenses tighten and the game slows down in the playoffs. Monroe could really offer this team a different dimension, but looks like the Celtics are happy with their Jack N' Back style so he may not get much burn until they're losing to the Raptors or Cavs in the playoffs and it's too late..

Re: Greg Monroe a big liability???
« Reply #61 on: February 27, 2018, 12:11:30 PM »

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Yeah Celtics are starting to look like one of those regular season "Fool's Gold" teams that looks unstoppable during the season when they are raining and splashing threes, then falls apart when the defenses tighten and the game slows down in the playoffs. Monroe could really offer this team a different dimension, but looks like the Celtics are happy with their Jack N' Back style so he may not get much burn until they're losing to the Raptors or Cavs in the playoffs and it's too late..
"Starting to look"? You just described Brad Stevens' entire NBA coaching tenure in one sentence :P
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Re: Greg Monroe a big liability???
« Reply #62 on: February 27, 2018, 12:47:18 PM »

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Yeah Celtics are starting to look like one of those regular season "Fool's Gold" teams that looks unstoppable during the season when they are raining and splashing threes, then falls apart when the defenses tighten and the game slows down in the playoffs. Monroe could really offer this team a different dimension, but looks like the Celtics are happy with their Jack N' Back style so he may not get much burn until they're losing to the Raptors or Cavs in the playoffs and it's too late..
"Starting to look"? You just described Brad Stevens' entire NBA coaching tenure in one sentence :P

Totally. He should have gotten fired for not coaching IT’s hip back to health.

Re: Greg Monroe a big liability???
« Reply #63 on: February 27, 2018, 12:48:38 PM »

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Yeah Celtics are starting to look like one of those regular season "Fool's Gold" teams that looks unstoppable during the season when they are raining and splashing threes, then falls apart when the defenses tighten and the game slows down in the playoffs. Monroe could really offer this team a different dimension, but looks like the Celtics are happy with their Jack N' Back style so he may not get much burn until they're losing to the Raptors or Cavs in the playoffs and it's too late..
"Starting to look"? You just described Brad Stevens' entire NBA coaching tenure in one sentence :P

I don't agree with that take at all. The Celts have improved each season in the playoffs and last year lost to a team that was almost universally acknowledged as having superior talent, including arguably the best player in the league, all while their best player (IT) was hurt. I have never thought that the Celts have under-performed in the playoffs under CBS, they got about as far as they should have given their talent. Even this year, I don't think anyone without green tinted glasses would expect the Celtics to make it to the finals. I think at this point they would be underdogs to Toronto or Cleveland.

Re: Greg Monroe a big liability???
« Reply #64 on: February 27, 2018, 01:14:48 PM »

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Yeah Celtics are starting to look like one of those regular season "Fool's Gold" teams that looks unstoppable during the season when they are raining and splashing threes, then falls apart when the defenses tighten and the game slows down in the playoffs. Monroe could really offer this team a different dimension, but looks like the Celtics are happy with their Jack N' Back style so he may not get much burn until they're losing to the Raptors or Cavs in the playoffs and it's too late..
"Starting to look"? You just described Brad Stevens' entire NBA coaching tenure in one sentence :P

I don't agree with that take at all. The Celts have improved each season in the playoffs and last year lost to a team that was almost universally acknowledged as having superior talent, including arguably the best player in the league, all while their best player (IT) was hurt. I have never thought that the Celts have under-performed in the playoffs under CBS, they got about as far as they should have given their talent. Even this year, I don't think anyone without green tinted glasses would expect the Celtics to make it to the finals. I think at this point they would be underdogs to Toronto or Cleveland.

That's possible that he maximized their talent but let's not forget the C's almost went out in the first round last year. And then barely got past the Wiz and were demolished.

I feel Stevens is a good coach but I don't think his "system" at least what he's shown so far is capable of winning an NBA championship. He reminds me a lot of Obie, who just wouldn't let go of the Chuck and D style he employed and also went to the ECF..

Re: Greg Monroe a big liability???
« Reply #65 on: February 27, 2018, 05:05:11 PM »

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Yeah Celtics are starting to look like one of those regular season "Fool's Gold" teams that looks unstoppable during the season when they are raining and splashing threes, then falls apart when the defenses tighten and the game slows down in the playoffs. Monroe could really offer this team a different dimension, but looks like the Celtics are happy with their Jack N' Back style so he may not get much burn until they're losing to the Raptors or Cavs in the playoffs and it's too late..
"Starting to look"? You just described Brad Stevens' entire NBA coaching tenure in one sentence :P

I don't agree with that take at all. The Celts have improved each season in the playoffs and last year lost to a team that was almost universally acknowledged as having superior talent, including arguably the best player in the league, all while their best player (IT) was hurt. I have never thought that the Celts have under-performed in the playoffs under CBS, they got about as far as they should have given their talent. Even this year, I don't think anyone without green tinted glasses would expect the Celtics to make it to the finals. I think at this point they would be underdogs to Toronto or Cleveland.

That's possible that he maximized their talent but let's not forget the C's almost went out in the first round last year. And then barely got past the Wiz and were demolished.

I feel Stevens is a good coach but I don't think his "system" at least what he's shown so far is capable of winning an NBA championship. He reminds me a lot of Obie, who just wouldn't let go of the Chuck and D style he employed and also went to the ECF..
The C's barely got by ATL in 2008 on the way to a title.  You can discount the team because they barely got by a team.  We barely got by Chi and Wash but we did.

Re: Greg Monroe a big liability???
« Reply #66 on: February 27, 2018, 05:59:51 PM »

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Yeah Celtics are starting to look like one of those regular season "Fool's Gold" teams that looks unstoppable during the season when they are raining and splashing threes, then falls apart when the defenses tighten and the game slows down in the playoffs. Monroe could really offer this team a different dimension, but looks like the Celtics are happy with their Jack N' Back style so he may not get much burn until they're losing to the Raptors or Cavs in the playoffs and it's too late..
"Starting to look"? You just described Brad Stevens' entire NBA coaching tenure in one sentence :P

I don't agree with that take at all. The Celts have improved each season in the playoffs and last year lost to a team that was almost universally acknowledged as having superior talent, including arguably the best player in the league, all while their best player (IT) was hurt. I have never thought that the Celts have under-performed in the playoffs under CBS, they got about as far as they should have given their talent. Even this year, I don't think anyone without green tinted glasses would expect the Celtics to make it to the finals. I think at this point they would be underdogs to Toronto or Cleveland.

That's possible that he maximized their talent but let's not forget the C's almost went out in the first round last year. And then barely got past the Wiz and were demolished.

I feel Stevens is a good coach but I don't think his "system" at least what he's shown so far is capable of winning an NBA championship. He reminds me a lot of Obie, who just wouldn't let go of the Chuck and D style he employed and also went to the ECF..
The C's barely got by ATL in 2008 on the way to a title.  You can discount the team because they barely got by a team.  We barely got by Chi and Wash but we did.

Although head coaches face the brunt of most of the coaching mishaps, I think it would important to considering they are just captains steering the ship.  All of those assistant coaches are responsible for the actions and information the players receive.  Maybe, we should be questioning those guys.

Remember when we had Ron Adams, in Brad's first season.  Our defense was stellar, everyone gave Brad more credit than he probably deserved, building his sterling reputation we hold dearly. We also had that young savant that left for New Orleans, right around the time Alvin Gentry became their head coach.  Stevens has his guys on the bench with him, but are they really the best people for the job.  Could this roster benefit from better assistant coaching?  I think we need to figure this out.

Re: Greg Monroe a big liability???
« Reply #67 on: February 27, 2018, 07:47:52 PM »

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He plays slow

Good reserve for a playoff series since he can bang the offensive glass something Baynes cannot do

Re: Greg Monroe a big liability???
« Reply #68 on: February 28, 2018, 10:42:51 PM »

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You know, maybe we should make these kind of threads right before the playoffs for every single player on the roster.

Then we'd be unstoppable en route to Banner 18 with every player (Semi, Nader, Yabu, etc. included) playing superb!  :laugh:
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Re: Greg Monroe a big liability???
« Reply #69 on: February 28, 2018, 11:38:13 PM »

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Classic over-reaction, over correction to the over-reaction, and then an over correction to the correction.

Re: Greg Monroe a big liability???
« Reply #70 on: March 01, 2018, 06:05:25 AM »

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Re: Greg Monroe a big liability???
« Reply #71 on: March 01, 2018, 06:07:18 AM »

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Yeah Celtics are starting to look like one of those regular season "Fool's Gold" teams that looks unstoppable during the season when they are raining and splashing threes, then falls apart when the defenses tighten and the game slows down in the playoffs. Monroe could really offer this team a different dimension, but looks like the Celtics are happy with their Jack N' Back style so he may not get much burn until they're losing to the Raptors or Cavs in the playoffs and it's too late..
"Starting to look"? You just described Brad Stevens' entire NBA coaching tenure in one sentence :P

I don't agree with that take at all. The Celts have improved each season in the playoffs and last year lost to a team that was almost universally acknowledged as having superior talent, including arguably the best player in the league, all while their best player (IT) was hurt. I have never thought that the Celts have under-performed in the playoffs under CBS, they got about as far as they should have given their talent. Even this year, I don't think anyone without green tinted glasses would expect the Celtics to make it to the finals. I think at this point they would be underdogs to Toronto or Cleveland.

That's possible that he maximized their talent but let's not forget the C's almost went out in the first round last year. And then barely got past the Wiz and were demolished.

I feel Stevens is a good coach but I don't think his "system" at least what he's shown so far is capable of winning an NBA championship. He reminds me a lot of Obie, who just wouldn't let go of the Chuck and D style he employed and also went to the ECF..
The C's barely got by ATL in 2008 on the way to a title.  You can discount the team because they barely got by a team.  We barely got by Chi and Wash but we did.
Fans see that Greg Monroe is slow as mud - leading to - questioning CBS and his entire staff.
Yea, logical - good correlation.
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Re: Greg Monroe a big liability???
« Reply #72 on: March 01, 2018, 06:58:39 AM »

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I hope a lot of this is due to him, not knowing offensive sets and plays, his team mates and rotations.
 
Certainly, had a decent game last night.

Re: Greg Monroe a big liability???
« Reply #73 on: March 01, 2018, 08:13:36 AM »

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I did not get to watch the game last night but Monroe's numbers look good.  I think it is interesting that Baynes has been playing so much better since Monroe was signed.  I would have expected that Monroe would be an upgrade on Baynes but clearly Baynes is saying "not so fast".  I thought Monroe would work up to being a starter and would have some impact in that role.  If all he adds is some depth (can't beat out Baynes), that is not bad, but I will view it as a disappointment.

And also, no Theis last night and we did not miss a beat.  So much for overstatements about his impact.  Don't get me wrong, I like what Theis has given us this season but if he was our best starter for that last spot, it would be a clear weakness.
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Re: Greg Monroe a big liability???
« Reply #74 on: March 01, 2018, 08:26:08 AM »

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I did not get to watch the game last night but Monroe's numbers look good.  I think it is interesting that Baynes has been playing so much better since Monroe was signed.  I would have expected that Monroe would be an upgrade on Baynes but clearly Baynes is saying "not so fast".  I thought Monroe would work up to being a starter and would have some impact in that role.  If all he adds is some depth (can't beat out Baynes), that is not bad, but I will view it as a disappointment.

And also, no Theis last night and we did not miss a beat.  So much for overstatements about his impact.  Don't get me wrong, I like what Theis has given us this season but if he was our best starter for that last spot, it would be a clear weakness.

Don’t draw too many conclusions from last night. We couldn’t miss, Charlotte struggled, and midway through the third it was basically garbage time.


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