Avery Bradley accused of sexual assault; denies allegations

[RJ87]

If we (who know nothing) are going to do baseless speculation, then we might as well
do it based on character. So Avery is totally clean in my book.

Some rich athletes are abusers. Others are easily exploited by hot women.
Based on character I'll assume Avery is innocent until there is proof
of something else.  This seems like common sense to me.  What reason is there
to assume/predict guilt???

Paying to protect one's reputation when you have the money to easily do it is not a crime.
If I were a public figure I'd pay a few pennies to protect my reputation too.

Best case, isn’t he cheating on his wife? Is that consistent with his perceived character?

I just don't understand why his character is some sort of proof of innocence. None of us know Avery personally or can attest to his actual character. All we know is his public image. People need to separate rooting for a player and knowing someone personally. They are VASTLY different.

[alley oop]

Sexual assault can be limited to groping, even over clothing. It may be worth six figures to a married multi-millionaire with a good reputation to keep a video of him doing that from getting out.

[KGs Knee]

If we (who know nothing) are going to do baseless speculation, then we might as well
do it based on character. So Avery is totally clean in my book.

Some rich athletes are abusers. Others are easily exploited by hot women.
Based on character I'll assume Avery is innocent until there is proof
of something else.  This seems like common sense to me.  What reason is there
to assume/predict guilt???

Paying to protect one's reputation when you have the money to easily do it is not a crime.
If I were a public figure I'd pay a few pennies to protect my reputation too.

Best case, isn’t he cheating on his wife? Is that consistent with his perceived character?

I just don't understand why his character is some sort of proof of innocence. None of us know Avery personally or can attest to his actual character. All we know is his public image. People need to separate rooting for a player and knowing someone personally. They are VASTLY different.

Yeah, all I know about Avery is what other people have told me. I'm not going to let that form my opinion about a situation I know almost nothing about.

[Ogaju]

Just because the settlement agreement covers photos and videos does not mean there were any photos and videos. A good attorney would add that to be thorough. Also makes him/her look good. lol.

[SHAQATTACK]

Abery is the kinda guy who avoids attention off court ,least from what i seen over the years , unless its a charity thing.   

i guess he thought itbwas worth the extortion money to not see his good name dragged though the mud with the likes of that bimbo.

[wiley]

If we (who know nothing) are going to do baseless speculation, then we might as well
do it based on character. So Avery is totally clean in my book.

Some rich athletes are abusers. Others are easily exploited by hot women.
Based on character I'll assume Avery is innocent until there is proof
of something else.  This seems like common sense to me.  What reason is there
to assume/predict guilt???

Paying to protect one's reputation when you have the money to easily do it is not a crime.
If I were a public figure I'd pay a few pennies to protect my reputation too.

Best case, isn’t he cheating on his wife? Is that consistent with his perceived character?

His excellent character is not in question imo.  It takes more than one mistake for me to decide that a generally excellent human being is a scumbag.  I get your meaning that you wouldn't expect Avery to have an issue such as this, but I have no reason yet to think less of his character.

I think it's better in a serious case not to bring fidelity into the equation, especially considering how common cheating is, not to mention open relationships, tolerance in some cases by one partner or the other or both, the divorce rate, etc....  Relationship issues should be left out of it because then our personal distaste for what is usually a private matter might affect our judgement in speculating on a person's guilt or innocence under the law. Many couples survive instances of infidelity and stay together 50 years plus...

If this were Matt Barnes or Lamar Odom, etc...I'd have a different lens (even though they would deserve the same innocent until proven guilty standard).

In other words, high character people start with more points, and this absolutely means they
get the benefit of the doubt until more is known.

[Roy H.]

If we (who know nothing) are going to do baseless speculation, then we might as well
do it based on character. So Avery is totally clean in my book.

Some rich athletes are abusers. Others are easily exploited by hot women.
Based on character I'll assume Avery is innocent until there is proof
of something else.  This seems like common sense to me.  What reason is there
to assume/predict guilt???

Paying to protect one's reputation when you have the money to easily do it is not a crime.
If I were a public figure I'd pay a few pennies to protect my reputation too.

Best case, isn’t he cheating on his wife? Is that consistent with his perceived character?

His excellent character is not in question imo.  It takes more than one mistake for me to decide that a generally excellent human being is a scumbag.  I get your meaning that you wouldn't expect Avery to have an issue such as this, but I have no reason yet to think less of his character.

I think it's better in a serious case not to bring fidelity into the equation, especially considering how common cheating is, not to mention open relationships, tolerance in some cases by one partner or the other or both, the divorce rate, etc....  Relationship issues should be left out of it because then our personal distaste for what is usually a private matter might affect our judgement in speculating on a person's guilt or innocence under the law. Many couples survive instances of infidelity and stay together 50 years plus...

If this were Matt Barnes or Lamar Odom, etc...I'd have a different lens (even though they would deserve the same innocent until proven guilty standard).

In other words, high character people start with more points, and this absolutely means they
get the benefit of the doubt until more is known.

But I guess my point is, what evidence do we have that AB is actually “high character”? People are calling him a Christian family man, but isn’t that just a cultivated image we’ve been shown through a specific lens?  He’s partying late at night with women other than his wife. That’s already contrary to his media image.

I agree he deserves benefit of the doubt, like all do. However, to me his “high character” means essentially nothing.

[Roy H.]

From a pure basketball perspective, I’m curious about the reported May 23 date.

Does that mean AB was partying early morning May 23, before Game 4? Or did this happen after Game 4, before midnight? Or does “May 23” really mean early morning May 24?

Is it too much to ask professionals not to put themselves in bad situations late at night during the Conference Finals?

[Eja117]

This just strikes me as really different than say the Rothlisburger thing. That woman was held behind a locked door with guards and went to the police within 24 hours I thought.

I see this as hush money at absolute worst and hush money isn't sexual assault.

Hush money could be sexual assault. Look at all the Weinstein stuff.

Then go to the police. If you don't go to the police not only was he not convicted, not only was he not charged, not only was he not arrested....I mean did she even file a complaint or anything at all? Just tells me she didn't think he had committed a crime serious enough to pursue at the time.

[Roy H.]

This just strikes me as really different than say the Rothlisburger thing. That woman was held behind a locked door with guards and went to the police within 24 hours I thought.

I see this as hush money at absolute worst and hush money isn't sexual assault.

Hush money could be sexual assault. Look at all the Weinstein stuff.

Then go to the police. If you don't go to the police not only was he not convicted, not only was he not charged, not only was he not arrested....I mean did she even file a complaint or anything at all? Just tells me she didn't think he had committed a crime serious enough to pursue at the time.

Similar to millions of other women.

[Big333223]

This just strikes me as really different than say the Rothlisburger thing. That woman was held behind a locked door with guards and went to the police within 24 hours I thought.

I see this as hush money at absolute worst and hush money isn't sexual assault.

Hush money could be sexual assault. Look at all the Weinstein stuff.

Then go to the police. If you don't go to the police not only was he not convicted, not only was he not charged, not only was he not arrested....I mean did she even file a complaint or anything at all? Just tells me she didn't think he had committed a crime serious enough to pursue at the time.

There are plenty of reasons victims of abuse don't go to the police. Here's a good article about it:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-compassion-chronicles/201711/why-dont-victims-sexual-harassment-come-forward-sooner

[RJ87]

This just strikes me as really different than say the Rothlisburger thing. That woman was held behind a locked door with guards and went to the police within 24 hours I thought.

I see this as hush money at absolute worst and hush money isn't sexual assault.

Hush money could be sexual assault. Look at all the Weinstein stuff.

Then go to the police. If you don't go to the police not only was he not convicted, not only was he not charged, not only was he not arrested....I mean did she even file a complaint or anything at all? Just tells me she didn't think he had committed a crime serious enough to pursue at the time.

You realize statistics show that only a fraction of sexual assaults are reported, right? There's a multitude of reasons behind that but one of the biggest reasons is the fear of not being believed. This thread is really a perfect microcosm. We have no facts about the victim or the incident, but people think they "know" Avery and can speak to his character, and therefore bend over backwards to believe he couldn't possibly do something like this.

Sexual assault cases are the only crimes where the victim is put on trial. No one has to prove that they were robbed and then explain what they did to get themselves robbed. No one asks what murder victims do to get themselves murdered.

[Ilikesports17]

This just strikes me as really different than say the Rothlisburger thing. That woman was held behind a locked door with guards and went to the police within 24 hours I thought.

I see this as hush money at absolute worst and hush money isn't sexual assault.

Hush money could be sexual assault. Look at all the Weinstein stuff.

Then go to the police. If you don't go to the police not only was he not convicted, not only was he not charged, not only was he not arrested....I mean did she even file a complaint or anything at all? Just tells me she didn't think he had committed a crime serious enough to pursue at the time.

There are plenty of reasons victims of abuse don't go to the police. Here's a good article about it:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-compassion-chronicles/201711/why-dont-victims-sexual-harassment-come-forward-sooner

which is a huge problem.

Tough one to solve too.

[wayupnorth]

This just strikes me as really different than say the Rothlisburger thing. That woman was held behind a locked door with guards and went to the police within 24 hours I thought.

I see this as hush money at absolute worst and hush money isn't sexual assault.

Hush money could be sexual assault. Look at all the Weinstein stuff.

Then go to the police. If you don't go to the police not only was he not convicted, not only was he not charged, not only was he not arrested....I mean did she even file a complaint or anything at all? Just tells me she didn't think he had committed a crime serious enough to pursue at the time.

You realize statistics show that only a fraction of sexual assaults are reported, right? There's a multitude of reasons behind that but one of the biggest reasons is the fear of not being believed. This thread is really a perfect microcosm. We have no facts about the victim or the incident, but people think they "know" Avery and can speak to his character, and therefore bend over backwards to believe he couldn't possibly do something like this.

Sexual assault cases are the only crimes where the victim is put on trial. No one has to prove that they were robbed and then explain what they did to get themselves robbed. No one asks what murder victims do to get themselves murdered.

Your last paragraph makes me shake my head.

If I have my car stolen, I darn sure do ask what I could have done to prevent that, and if the answer is I left my keys in my car, people will rightly say, "why on earth would you do that?"

There may be many reasons as to why so many people don't report sexual crimes, but they should. You can't complain about something never getting attention or people getting in trouble, but then not go to the proper authorities.

If a family member is murdered, I know who did it, but I am scared of what they might do if I tell on them, it is still my moral obligation to go to the authorities with that information.

And in a situation where there was no criminal, or even civil charges, why isn't it right to give neither  party the benefit of the doubt?

[Ilikesports17]

This just strikes me as really different than say the Rothlisburger thing. That woman was held behind a locked door with guards and went to the police within 24 hours I thought.

I see this as hush money at absolute worst and hush money isn't sexual assault.

Hush money could be sexual assault. Look at all the Weinstein stuff.

Then go to the police. If you don't go to the police not only was he not convicted, not only was he not charged, not only was he not arrested....I mean did she even file a complaint or anything at all? Just tells me she didn't think he had committed a crime serious enough to pursue at the time.

You realize statistics show that only a fraction of sexual assaults are reported, right? There's a multitude of reasons behind that but one of the biggest reasons is the fear of not being believed. This thread is really a perfect microcosm. We have no facts about the victim or the incident, but people think they "know" Avery and can speak to his character, and therefore bend over backwards to believe he couldn't possibly do something like this.

Sexual assault cases are the only crimes where the victim is put on trial. No one has to prove that they were robbed and then explain what they did to get themselves robbed. No one asks what murder victims do to get themselves murdered.

bolded is quite a stretch.

In a very literal sense the actions of the victim are put on trial in many cases.