Avery Bradley accused of sexual assault; denies allegations

[GetLucky]

advise to men in the MeToo era:

If you're alone in an elevator, and a woman steps in, get out.

I'm pretty sure the woman is still in more danger. Perspective.

Yeah, we can agree to disagree. Most men I know love and protect women.

I'm assuming you only know a minute fraction of the men in the world.

My advice to you and other men in the #metoo era: don't be a jerk. Don't grope or touch a woman without her consent. "No" isn't just a word that women use to play hard to get. Catcalling is demeaning. If you meet a woman at a bar or a party or in line at Walmart and you approach her but she's not interested in your advances, that doesn't make her a b-word or cold or uptight. On the same note, she's not "friendzoning" you, she's just not interested in you romantically; expecting her to like you because you're nice to her is creepy and guess what? It makes you a jerk.

Sorry for the rant, but I don't really appreciate when people try to make the #metoo movement into women somehow being too sensitive. Just treat people with respect.

Yeah, this wasn't directed at me. You just wanted to virtue signal.

JSD you are greatly oversimplifying a very complicated issue. This movement is a culmination of a lot of things (some good, some bad). It is not just a great conspiracy to throw every man alive in jail.

As for AB, there is so little information out right now that I don't want to make a judgement at this time.

[RJ87]

advise to men in the MeToo era:

If you're alone in an elevator, and a woman steps in, get out.

I'm pretty sure the woman is still in more danger. Perspective.

Yeah, we can agree to disagree. Most men I know love and protect women.

I'm assuming you only know a minute fraction of the men in the world.

My advice to you and other men in the #metoo era: don't be a jerk. Don't grope or touch a woman without her consent. "No" isn't just a word that women use to play hard to get. Catcalling is demeaning. If you meet a woman at a bar or a party or in line at Walmart and you approach her but she's not interested in your advances, that doesn't make her a b-word or cold or uptight. On the same note, she's not "friendzoning" you, she's just not interested in you romantically; expecting her to like you because you're nice to her is creepy and guess what? It makes you a jerk.

Sorry for the rant, but I don't really appreciate when people try to make the #metoo movement into women somehow being too sensitive. Just treat people with respect.

Yeah, this wasn't directed at me. You just wanted to virtue signal.

Nope, just calling it like I see it. Sorry if I struck a nerve or hurt your feelings.

[JSD]

advise to men in the MeToo era:

If you're alone in an elevator, and a woman steps in, get out.

I'm pretty sure the woman is still in more danger. Perspective.

Yeah, we can agree to disagree. Most men I know love and protect women.

I'm assuming you only know a minute fraction of the men in the world.

My advice to you and other men in the #metoo era: don't be a jerk. Don't grope or touch a woman without her consent. "No" isn't just a word that women use to play hard to get. Catcalling is demeaning. If you meet a woman at a bar or a party or in line at Walmart and you approach her but she's not interested in your advances, that doesn't make her a b-word or cold or uptight. On the same note, she's not "friendzoning" you, she's just not interested in you romantically; expecting her to like you because you're nice to her is creepy and guess what? It makes you a jerk.

Sorry for the rant, but I don't really appreciate when people try to make the #metoo movement into women somehow being too sensitive. Just treat people with respect.

Yeah, this wasn't directed at me. You just wanted to virtue signal.

Nope, just calling it like I see it. Sorry if I struck a nerve or hurt your feelings.

No, no, I  laughed at what you wrote.

People have to stop living in a victim mentality and realize true equality is bad things happen to everyone. Stop perpetuating the idea that only one gender is filled with monsters and the other is frail victims. It's sexist and naive.
Inappropriate. Don't do it again

[KGs Knee]

advise to men in the MeToo era:

If you're alone in an elevator, and a woman steps in, get out.

I'm pretty sure the woman is still in more danger. Perspective.

Yeah, we can agree to disagree. Most men I know love and protect women.

I'm assuming you only know a minute fraction of the men in the world.

My advice to you and other men in the #metoo era: don't be a jerk. Don't grope or touch a woman without her consent. "No" isn't just a word that women use to play hard to get. Catcalling is demeaning. If you meet a woman at a bar or a party or in line at Walmart and you approach her but she's not interested in your advances, that doesn't make her a b-word or cold or uptight. On the same note, she's not "friendzoning" you, she's just not interested in you romantically; expecting her to like you because you're nice to her is creepy and guess what? It makes you a jerk.

Sorry for the rant, but I don't really appreciate when people try to make the #metoo movement into women somehow being too sensitive. Just treat people with respect.

My guess is you don't know any more men than anyone else here, at least not in any meaningful amount.

Also, while everything you said in the second paragraph is true it cuts both ways.  Women can be just as forward (maybe not as frequently - I'm not sure).  I'm sure every man here has been hit on by a woman they weren't interested in at some point.  Inappropriate behavior is inappropriate regardless of gender.

[KGs Knee]

advise to men in the MeToo era:

If you're alone in an elevator, and a woman steps in, get out.

I'm pretty sure the woman is still in more danger. Perspective.

Yeah, we can agree to disagree. Most men I know love and protect women.

I'm assuming you only know a minute fraction of the men in the world.

My advice to you and other men in the #metoo era: don't be a jerk. Don't grope or touch a woman without her consent. "No" isn't just a word that women use to play hard to get. Catcalling is demeaning. If you meet a woman at a bar or a party or in line at Walmart and you approach her but she's not interested in your advances, that doesn't make her a b-word or cold or uptight. On the same note, she's not "friendzoning" you, she's just not interested in you romantically; expecting her to like you because you're nice to her is creepy and guess what? It makes you a jerk.

Sorry for the rant, but I don't really appreciate when people try to make the #metoo movement into women somehow being too sensitive. Just treat people with respect.

Yeah, this wasn't directed at me. You just wanted to virtue signal.

Nope, just calling it like I see it. Sorry if I struck a nerve or hurt your feelings.

No, no, I  laughed at what you wrote.

People have to stop living in a victim mentality and realize true equality is bad things happen to everyone. Stop perpetuating the idea that only one gender is filled with monsters and the other is frail victims. It's sexist and naive.

You'd do a lot better to phrase things in a less combative manner.

[timpiker]

I don’t believe it

[ManUp]

It's wrong to assume that the woman is lying off the bat, but it's also naive to think that some women don't use these type of allegations as a means to get paid. We will likely never know what actually happened so my opinion of Bradley hasn't changed hopefully he learned a lesson from this situation and doesn't put himself in the position for this type of thing to happen again.

[nickagneta]

Enough with that discussion I deleted. Stay on subject and respect each other.

[EJPLAYA]

Fact is most abusers are people that "no one would have ever believed could do something like that". Fact is everyone on here knows the other posters more than they know Avery Bradley. Fact is because he is a former Celtic everyone wants to give HIM the benefit of the doubt, yet in the political realm it's the same. Hilary wants you to believe the women when it comes to Donald Trump yet ignore Bill's accusers who had proof and that they had paid of. Liberals want you to withhold judgement when it comes to Al Franken, yet throw Roy Moore immediately into being guilty because it doesn't fit their narrative. Republicans want you to ignore his actions as past misdeeds because it's better than voting for a Democrat. Until we can get real and condemn abusers of women no matter their political affiliation or which sports team they play for we will never end this cycle.

[nickagneta]

Fact is most abusers are people that "no one would have ever believed could do something like that". Fact is everyone on here knows the other posters more than they know Avery Bradley. Fact is because he is a former Celtic everyone wants to give HIM the benefit of the doubt, yet in the political realm it's the same. Hilary wants you to believe the women when it comes to Donald Trump yet ignore Bill's accusers who had proof and that they had paid of. Liberals want you to withhold judgement when it comes to Al Franken, yet throw Roy Moore immediately into being guilty because it doesn't fit their narrative. Republicans want you to ignore his actions as past misdeeds because it's better than voting for a Democrat. Until we can get real and condemn abusers of women no matter their political affiliation or which sports team they play for we will never end this cycle.

I said stay on subject. Bringing in the current political scandals and accusations is off topic.
This thread is about Avery Bradley

[RJ87]

I'm assuming you only know a minute fraction of the men in the world.

My advice to you and other men in the #metoo era: don't be a jerk. Don't grope or touch a woman without her consent. "No" isn't just a word that women use to play hard to get. Catcalling is demeaning. If you meet a woman at a bar or a party or in line at Walmart and you approach her but she's not interested in your advances, that doesn't make her a b-word or cold or uptight. On the same note, she's not "friendzoning" you, she's just not interested in you romantically; expecting her to like you because you're nice to her is creepy and guess what? It makes you a jerk.

Sorry for the rant, but I don't really appreciate when people try to make the #metoo movement into women somehow being too sensitive. Just treat people with respect.

My guess is you don't know any more men than anyone else here, at least not in any meaningful amount.

Also, while everything you said in the second paragraph is true it cuts both ways.  Women can be just as forward (maybe not as frequently - I'm not sure).  I'm sure every man here has been hit on by a woman they weren't interested in at some point.  Inappropriate behavior is inappropriate regardless of gender.

I'm not saying I do - but to bring it back to the topic at end - my job does allow me to interact with athletes in the major sports day in and day out, male and female. There have been issues of sexual harassment or inappropriate behavior dozens of times unfortunately. Not to generalize, but I frequently see situations where a high profile client is inappropriate with an employee who feels like they can't speak up about it because of the ramifications. In those instances, the accused party is male an overwhelming amount of the time.

Does that mean there aren't good guys out there? Of course not. Avery may very well be one of them. But it's also possible he may not be.

[EJPLAYA]

Fact is most abusers are people that "no one would have ever believed could do something like that". Fact is everyone on here knows the other posters more than they know Avery Bradley. Fact is because he is a former Celtic everyone wants to give HIM the benefit of the doubt, yet in the political realm it's the same. Hilary wants you to believe the women when it comes to Donald Trump yet ignore Bill's accusers who had proof and that they had paid of. Liberals want you to withhold judgement when it comes to Al Franken, yet throw Roy Moore immediately into being guilty because it doesn't fit their narrative. Republicans want you to ignore his actions as past misdeeds because it's better than voting for a Democrat. Until we can get real and condemn abusers of women no matter their political affiliation or which sports team they play for we will never end this cycle.

I said stay on subject. Bringing in the current political scandals and accusations is off topic.
This thread is about Avery Bradley

Not everyone goes back and reads every word of every post in a multi page thread so it can be expected that warning which I never saw might have not been seen. That being said this applies specifically and was not one sided at either political party. It was to show that in all areas like with Avery Bradley people are selective with whom they want to believe based on their personal tie to the accuser or accused. My post was about Avery Bradley, but okay.

[Donoghus]

Fact is most abusers are people that "no one would have ever believed could do something like that". Fact is everyone on here knows the other posters more than they know Avery Bradley. Fact is because he is a former Celtic everyone wants to give HIM the benefit of the doubt, yet in the political realm it's the same. Hilary wants you to believe the women when it comes to Donald Trump yet ignore Bill's accusers who had proof and that they had paid of. Liberals want you to withhold judgement when it comes to Al Franken, yet throw Roy Moore immediately into being guilty because it doesn't fit their narrative. Republicans want you to ignore his actions as past misdeeds because it's better than voting for a Democrat. Until we can get real and condemn abusers of women no matter their political affiliation or which sports team they play for we will never end this cycle.

I said stay on subject. Bringing in the current political scandals and accusations is off topic.
This thread is about Avery Bradley

Not everyone goes back and reads every word of every post in a multi page thread so it can be expected that warning which I never saw might have not been seen. That being said this applies specifically and was not one sided at either political party. It was to show that in all areas like with Avery Bradley people are selective with whom they want to believe based on their personal tie to the accuser or accused. My post was about Avery Bradley, but okay.

It was tangential, at the very best.   The stay on subject warning was literally the post before the one you made.

Respect Nick's warning.

[EJPLAYA]

Fact is most abusers are people that "no one would have ever believed could do something like that". Fact is everyone on here knows the other posters more than they know Avery Bradley. Fact is because he is a former Celtic everyone wants to give HIM the benefit of the doubt, yet in the political realm it's the same. Hilary wants you to believe the women when it comes to Donald Trump yet ignore Bill's accusers who had proof and that they had paid of. Liberals want you to withhold judgement when it comes to Al Franken, yet throw Roy Moore immediately into being guilty because it doesn't fit their narrative. Republicans want you to ignore his actions as past misdeeds because it's better than voting for a Democrat. Until we can get real and condemn abusers of women no matter their political affiliation or which sports team they play for we will never end this cycle.

I said stay on subject. Bringing in the current political scandals and accusations is off topic.
This thread is about Avery Bradley

Not everyone goes back and reads every word of every post in a multi page thread so it can be expected that warning which I never saw might have not been seen. That being said this applies specifically and was not one sided at either political party. It was to show that in all areas like with Avery Bradley people are selective with whom they want to believe based on their personal tie to the accuser or accused. My post was about Avery Bradley, but okay.

It was tangential, at the very best.   The stay on subject warning was literally the post before the one you made.

Respect Nick's warning.

For the record I was writing that post off and on for a few minutes before posting it and it was not there the last time I looked. So no I didn't see that. There was no disrespect on my end. Just an explanation of why I felt it was applicable to my argument and not a political post.

[Roy H.]

AB had no choice. When it comes to these allegations you are guilty no matter what. All a woman has to do is point her finger. Some are celebrating the Civil Rights movement (Again), yet it seems we've gone all the way back to the Salem Witch Trials, when we have Americans playing both judge and jury, publicly crucifying men with accusations and no evidence, and ignoring the rule of law.

A lot of this is true, since about late November or so. There has been a huge change in public perception, and the presumption of innocence.

These events allegedly happened in May. I’d be interested to know when the settlement negotiations took place.