Kuzma-"we don't like them"

[rollie mass]

This Laker rookie says it all .Why do we have to build up our rivals on this board
The press has a vested interest in building up LA.
Simmons scores 16 points but no mention it was on 7-22 from field.  He had 3 steals and 3 blocks but no mention of 5 fouls and 6 turnovers and he finally took a three and missed. While Tatum plays better defense, knocks down three's at 50% and is only 19 a real rookie.
Al Horford, a truly sublime player gets labeled Average Al and unless there is indignation and criticism then it gets repeated and parroted without any thought.
A player that can't shoot at all from outside and is poor from foul line, he should not be rookie of the year because of stat stuffing over all around younger real rookie.
The Lakers don't like the celtics, Why sugarcoat that Lonzo is a bust now?.Why not call Fultz a bust now.
This class has so many rookies outplaying those high draft choices that have glaring weaknesses-Why do celts fans have to be politically correct?.
These other teams set up to tank,set up to manipulate the draft with players refusing to tryout or downright insulting Danny Ainge
We watched the Cavs blindside Crowder and JR injure him in playoffs.We watched Crowder and Lebron take down Hayward with no concern for being vulnerable in mid air -they tag teamed him.Why should we build up other teams rookies or players that will become threats to Banner 18?
Kuzma, who is quite good  says it all "we don't like them"
Washington doesn't like us
So what if Fultz is having discomfort -Philly has blatantly tanked for years and years
Avery was snubbed, when it came to awards
Brad should done better as Coach of Year
For 58 years i have watched rivalries Philly,Knicks,LA,Detroit and Chicago with fans joining in as part of home court advantage-
When other teams players come here or comment it is how vocal and intense Bostons fan base are and the history.
This summer when LA goes free agent hunting they could quickly turn their team around
.So the less praise the better-I can just see Magic and Walton head hunting licking their chops over Kyrie's free agency or Lebron and George
Magic has already been fined for his responses on a TV show
So isn't making excuses for Lonzo,Simmons or Fultz going to wind up "WE DON'T LIKE THEM"
down the road

[timpiker]

Especially at the beginning of the game, the Lonzo Love Affair was sickening.

[Roy H.]

Why sugarcoat that Lonzo is a bust now?.Why not call Fultz a bust now.

Because it’s way too early?

Should we conclude that Kyrie has lost the ability to make 3PTs, worse than Marcus Smart?  Or should we conclude that he’ll eventually find his stroke?

[Smartacus]

Why sugarcoat that Lonzo is a bust now?.Why not call Fultz a bust now.

Because it’s way too early?

Should we conclude that Kyrie has lost the ability to make 3PTs, worse than Marcus Smart?  Or should we conclude that he’ll eventually find his stroke?

Absolutely, I don't like Ball and I never have but it would not surprise me in the slightest if he just showed up one year after a summer in the gym and started knocking down his 3's funky release and all.

We can hate the Lakers all we like but you also have to be rational that rookies need some time to develop.

[G-Bones]

 Spot on, Rollie!  Agree with all of this.  I am disappointed that it was just brushed under the table that Hayward was gooned up by Crowder and LeBron during the allie oop take down.  They knew that Hayward was going to have a rough fall when they undercut him.  I wonder if they laughed about it behind closed doors. [/b]

This Laker rookie says it all .Why do we have to build up our rivals on this board
The press has a vested interest in building up LA.
Simmons scores 16 points but no mention it was on 7-22 from field.  He had 3 steals and 3 blocks but no mention of 5 fouls and 6 turnovers and he finally took a three and missed. While Tatum plays better defense, knocks down three's at 50% and is only 19 a real rookie.
Al Horford, a truly sublime player gets labeled Average Al and unless there is indignation and criticism then it gets repeated and parroted without any thought.
A player that can't shoot at all from outside and is poor from foul line, he should not be rookie of the year because of stat stuffing over all around younger real rookie.
The Lakers don't like the celtics, Why sugarcoat that Lonzo is a bust now?.Why not call Fultz a bust now.
This class has so many rookies outplaying those high draft choices that have glaring weaknesses-Why do celts fans have to be politically correct?.
These other teams set up to tank,set up to manipulate the draft with players refusing to tryout or downright insulting Danny Ainge
We watched the Cavs blindside Crowder and JR injure him in playoffs.We watched Crowder and Lebron take down Hayward with no concern for being vulnerable in mid air -they tag teamed him.Why should we build up other teams rookies or players that will become threats to Banner 18?
Kuzma, who is quite good  says it all "we don't like them"
Washington doesn't like us
So what if Fultz is having discomfort -Philly has blatantly tanked for years and years
Avery was snubbed, when it came to awards
Brad should done better as Coach of Year
For 58 years i have watched rivalries Philly,Knicks,LA,Detroit and Chicago with fans joining in as part of home court advantage-
When other teams players come here or comment it is how vocal and intense Bostons fan base are and the history.
This summer when LA goes free agent hunting they could quickly turn their team around
.So the less praise the better-I can just see Magic and Walton head hunting licking their chops over Kyrie's free agency or Lebron and George
Magic has already been fined for his responses on a TV show
So isn't making excuses for Lonzo,Simmons or Fultz going to wind up "WE DON'T LIKE THEM"
down the road

[chilidawg]

Spot on, Rollie!  Agree with all of this.  I am disappointed that it was just brushed under the table that Hayward was gooned up by Crowder and LeBron during the allie oop take down.  They knew that Hayward was going to have a rough fall when they undercut him.  I wonder if they laughed about it behind closed doors. [/b]

This Laker rookie says it all .Why do we have to build up our rivals on this board
The press has a vested interest in building up LA.
Simmons scores 16 points but no mention it was on 7-22 from field.  He had 3 steals and 3 blocks but no mention of 5 fouls and 6 turnovers and he finally took a three and missed. While Tatum plays better defense, knocks down three's at 50% and is only 19 a real rookie.
Al Horford, a truly sublime player gets labeled Average Al and unless there is indignation and criticism then it gets repeated and parroted without any thought.
A player that can't shoot at all from outside and is poor from foul line, he should not be rookie of the year because of stat stuffing over all around younger real rookie.
The Lakers don't like the celtics, Why sugarcoat that Lonzo is a bust now?.Why not call Fultz a bust now.
This class has so many rookies outplaying those high draft choices that have glaring weaknesses-Why do celts fans have to be politically correct?.
These other teams set up to tank,set up to manipulate the draft with players refusing to tryout or downright insulting Danny Ainge
We watched the Cavs blindside Crowder and JR injure him in playoffs.We watched Crowder and Lebron take down Hayward with no concern for being vulnerable in mid air -they tag teamed him.Why should we build up other teams rookies or players that will become threats to Banner 18?
Kuzma, who is quite good  says it all "we don't like them"
Washington doesn't like us
So what if Fultz is having discomfort -Philly has blatantly tanked for years and years
Avery was snubbed, when it came to awards
Brad should done better as Coach of Year
For 58 years i have watched rivalries Philly,Knicks,LA,Detroit and Chicago with fans joining in as part of home court advantage-
When other teams players come here or comment it is how vocal and intense Bostons fan base are and the history.
This summer when LA goes free agent hunting they could quickly turn their team around
.So the less praise the better-I can just see Magic and Walton head hunting licking their chops over Kyrie's free agency or Lebron and George
Magic has already been fined for his responses on a TV show
So isn't making excuses for Lonzo,Simmons or Fultz going to wind up "WE DON'T LIKE THEM"
down the road

That's just pure spite, fueled by baseless speculation.  Stop it.

[tonydelk]

Can you imagine the outrage if someone did the same thing to LBJ.  Even if he didn't get hurt he would be on social media, the press talking about how it was a dirty play and intentional to try to hurt him.  I still think with Crowder holding on to Hayward that caused the injury.  He could not get the lift off he needed and could not challenge LBJ in the air.  He was off balance and it was over from there.  I don't think they tried to hurt Hayward but I do think if the roles were reversed they would have claimed it was intentional.

Spot on, Rollie!  Agree with all of this.  I am disappointed that it was just brushed under the table that Hayward was gooned up by Crowder and LeBron during the allie oop take down.  They knew that Hayward was going to have a rough fall when they undercut him.  I wonder if they laughed about it behind closed doors. [/b]

This Laker rookie says it all .Why do we have to build up our rivals on this board
The press has a vested interest in building up LA.
Simmons scores 16 points but no mention it was on 7-22 from field.  He had 3 steals and 3 blocks but no mention of 5 fouls and 6 turnovers and he finally took a three and missed. While Tatum plays better defense, knocks down three's at 50% and is only 19 a real rookie.
Al Horford, a truly sublime player gets labeled Average Al and unless there is indignation and criticism then it gets repeated and parroted without any thought.
A player that can't shoot at all from outside and is poor from foul line, he should not be rookie of the year because of stat stuffing over all around younger real rookie.
The Lakers don't like the celtics, Why sugarcoat that Lonzo is a bust now?.Why not call Fultz a bust now.
This class has so many rookies outplaying those high draft choices that have glaring weaknesses-Why do celts fans have to be politically correct?.
These other teams set up to tank,set up to manipulate the draft with players refusing to tryout or downright insulting Danny Ainge
We watched the Cavs blindside Crowder and JR injure him in playoffs.We watched Crowder and Lebron take down Hayward with no concern for being vulnerable in mid air -they tag teamed him.Why should we build up other teams rookies or players that will become threats to Banner 18?
Kuzma, who is quite good  says it all "we don't like them"
Washington doesn't like us
So what if Fultz is having discomfort -Philly has blatantly tanked for years and years
Avery was snubbed, when it came to awards
Brad should done better as Coach of Year
For 58 years i have watched rivalries Philly,Knicks,LA,Detroit and Chicago with fans joining in as part of home court advantage-
When other teams players come here or comment it is how vocal and intense Bostons fan base are and the history.
This summer when LA goes free agent hunting they could quickly turn their team around
.So the less praise the better-I can just see Magic and Walton head hunting licking their chops over Kyrie's free agency or Lebron and George
Magic has already been fined for his responses on a TV show
So isn't making excuses for Lonzo,Simmons or Fultz going to wind up "WE DON'T LIKE THEM"
down the road

[Alleyoopster]

Saw another play this season where a player went up for a shot and Crowder put his hand on the opponent's waste...giving him a gentle nudge. So, I doubt this was an isolated incident. The only difference in the Hayward's case was that it wasn't a gentle nudge.

Can you imagine the outrage if someone did the same thing to LBJ.  Even if he didn't get hurt he would be on social media, the press talking about how it was a dirty play and intentional to try to hurt him.  I still think with Crowder holding on to Hayward that caused the injury.  He could not get the lift off he needed and could not challenge LBJ in the air.  He was off balance and it was over from there. I don't think they tried to hurt Hayward but I do think if the roles were reversed they would have claimed it was intentional.

Spot on, Rollie!  Agree with all of this.  I am disappointed that it was just brushed under the table that Hayward was gooned up by Crowder and LeBron during the allie oop take down.  They knew that Hayward was going to have a rough fall when they undercut him.  I wonder if they laughed about it behind closed doors. [/b]

This Laker rookie says it all .Why do we have to build up our rivals on this board
The press has a vested interest in building up LA.
Simmons scores 16 points but no mention it was on 7-22 from field.  He had 3 steals and 3 blocks but no mention of 5 fouls and 6 turnovers and he finally took a three and missed. While Tatum plays better defense, knocks down three's at 50% and is only 19 a real rookie.
Al Horford, a truly sublime player gets labeled Average Al and unless there is indignation and criticism then it gets repeated and parroted without any thought.
A player that can't shoot at all from outside and is poor from foul line, he should not be rookie of the year because of stat stuffing over all around younger real rookie.
The Lakers don't like the celtics, Why sugarcoat that Lonzo is a bust now?.Why not call Fultz a bust now.
This class has so many rookies outplaying those high draft choices that have glaring weaknesses-Why do celts fans have to be politically correct?.
These other teams set up to tank,set up to manipulate the draft with players refusing to tryout or downright insulting Danny Ainge
We watched the Cavs blindside Crowder and JR injure him in playoffs.We watched Crowder and Lebron take down Hayward with no concern for being vulnerable in mid air -they tag teamed him.Why should we build up other teams rookies or players that will become threats to Banner 18?
Kuzma, who is quite good  says it all "we don't like them"
Washington doesn't like us
So what if Fultz is having discomfort -Philly has blatantly tanked for years and years
Avery was snubbed, when it came to awards
Brad should done better as Coach of Year
For 58 years i have watched rivalries Philly,Knicks,LA,Detroit and Chicago with fans joining in as part of home court advantage-
When other teams players come here or comment it is how vocal and intense Bostons fan base are and the history.
This summer when LA goes free agent hunting they could quickly turn their team around
.So the less praise the better-I can just see Magic and Walton head hunting licking their chops over Kyrie's free agency or Lebron and George
Magic has already been fined for his responses on a TV show
So isn't making excuses for Lonzo,Simmons or Fultz going to wind up "WE DON'T LIKE THEM"
down the road

[Chris22]

No need to boo Ball just because his father is a ego maniac.

[hwangjini_1]

Spot on, Rollie!  Agree with all of this.  I am disappointed that it was just brushed under the table that Hayward was gooned up by Crowder and LeBron during the allie oop take down.  They knew that Hayward was going to have a rough fall when they undercut him.  I wonder if they laughed about it behind closed doors. [/b]

This Laker rookie says it all .Why do we have to build up our rivals on this board
The press has a vested interest in building up LA.
Simmons scores 16 points but no mention it was on 7-22 from field.  He had 3 steals and 3 blocks but no mention of 5 fouls and 6 turnovers and he finally took a three and missed. While Tatum plays better defense, knocks down three's at 50% and is only 19 a real rookie.
Al Horford, a truly sublime player gets labeled Average Al and unless there is indignation and criticism then it gets repeated and parroted without any thought.
A player that can't shoot at all from outside and is poor from foul line, he should not be rookie of the year because of stat stuffing over all around younger real rookie.
The Lakers don't like the celtics, Why sugarcoat that Lonzo is a bust now?.Why not call Fultz a bust now.
This class has so many rookies outplaying those high draft choices that have glaring weaknesses-Why do celts fans have to be politically correct?.
These other teams set up to tank,set up to manipulate the draft with players refusing to tryout or downright insulting Danny Ainge
We watched the Cavs blindside Crowder and JR injure him in playoffs.We watched Crowder and Lebron take down Hayward with no concern for being vulnerable in mid air -they tag teamed him.Why should we build up other teams rookies or players that will become threats to Banner 18?
Kuzma, who is quite good  says it all "we don't like them"
Washington doesn't like us
So what if Fultz is having discomfort -Philly has blatantly tanked for years and years
Avery was snubbed, when it came to awards
Brad should done better as Coach of Year
For 58 years i have watched rivalries Philly,Knicks,LA,Detroit and Chicago with fans joining in as part of home court advantage-
When other teams players come here or comment it is how vocal and intense Bostons fan base are and the history.
This summer when LA goes free agent hunting they could quickly turn their team around
.So the less praise the better-I can just see Magic and Walton head hunting licking their chops over Kyrie's free agency or Lebron and George
Magic has already been fined for his responses on a TV show
So isn't making excuses for Lonzo,Simmons or Fultz going to wind up "WE DON'T LIKE THEM"
down the road

That's just pure spite, fueled by baseless speculation.  Stop it.

Thank you chilidawg.

[RockinRyA]

This Laker rookie says it all .Why do we have to build up our rivals on this board
The press has a vested interest in building up LA.
Simmons scores 16 points but no mention it was on 7-22 from field.  He had 3 steals and 3 blocks but no mention of 5 fouls and 6 turnovers and he finally took a three and missed. While Tatum plays better defense, knocks down three's at 50% and is only 19 a real rookie.
Al Horford, a truly sublime player gets labeled Average Al and unless there is indignation and criticism then it gets repeated and parroted without any thought.
A player that can't shoot at all from outside and is poor from foul line, he should not be rookie of the year because of stat stuffing over all around younger real rookie.
The Lakers don't like the celtics, Why sugarcoat that Lonzo is a bust now?.Why not call Fultz a bust now.
This class has so many rookies outplaying those high draft choices that have glaring weaknesses-Why do celts fans have to be politically correct?.
These other teams set up to tank,set up to manipulate the draft with players refusing to tryout or downright insulting Danny Ainge
We watched the Cavs blindside Crowder and JR injure him in playoffs.We watched Crowder and Lebron take down Hayward with no concern for being vulnerable in mid air -they tag teamed him.Why should we build up other teams rookies or players that will become threats to Banner 18?
Kuzma, who is quite good  says it all "we don't like them"
Washington doesn't like us
So what if Fultz is having discomfort -Philly has blatantly tanked for years and years
Avery was snubbed, when it came to awards
Brad should done better as Coach of Year
For 58 years i have watched rivalries Philly,Knicks,LA,Detroit and Chicago with fans joining in as part of home court advantage-
When other teams players come here or comment it is how vocal and intense Bostons fan base are and the history.
This summer when LA goes free agent hunting they could quickly turn their team around
.So the less praise the better-I can just see Magic and Walton head hunting licking their chops over Kyrie's free agency or Lebron and George
Magic has already been fined for his responses on a TV show
So isn't making excuses for Lonzo,Simmons or Fultz going to wind up "WE DON'T LIKE THEM"
down the road

I dont want to look stupid when those guys turn it around. Remember Ingram last year? Horrible rookie season, now he's a good player. Simmons was injured last year, now he's healthy. Heck AB was baaaad in his first year.

No, its not about liking those teams, or making excuses. Its called being reasonable. Im sorry not everyone share your love for overreactions and hyperboles.

[mmmmm]

Why sugarcoat that Lonzo is a bust now?.Why not call Fultz a bust now.

Because it’s way too early?

Should we conclude that Kyrie has lost the ability to make 3PTs, worse than Marcus Smart?  Or should we conclude that he’ll eventually find his stroke?

Ditto that.   Totally agree.

Not only is it way to early to call any of these players a 'bust', I just don't understand the motivation for wanting to "make the call early".    Why is it important to some folks to be first to label a player as bust or future hall of fame?

Sheesh.   A smart team should be drafting a player with an eye towards their value over a 4-10 year career.   Calling them a bust in the first couple of years is usually too early.   Doing so in the first few weeks is silly.

Folks were calling Ingram a bust after last year.  He looks like a pretty good player now, in his second year.   People were comparing Avery Bradley to hot garbage after his rookie season.      Those people looked stupid by the end of his 2nd season when he took Ray Allen's job away.

[moiso]

Another day, another new Rollie thread about everyone else’s young players being busts.

[rollie mass]

Stop it,spiteful,hyperbole,baseless speculation,irrational-
Philly has been tanking for years
Simmons can't shoot from outside
Kuzma stated "we don't like them"
Press is fawning over Simmons and Ball
The press has underated Al Horford-Average Al
Fultz,Ball and Simmons can't shot or have no mid range
While Tatum is knocking down three's ,playing defense,rebounding and is unflawed at 19 yrs old
Crowder was not a fan of Hayward and was traded along with an upset Isaiah
We have seen how dirty the Cav's were to Celtics (JR) and a blindside screen by Perkins
Crowder fouled him in a very vulnerable position with probably no concern at the time

Where is spite or baseless speculation-i see flaws you can drive a truck through-which are tough to fix

Why must i rationalize the play of opponents rookies,why do i have to feed into press hype,
why ignore the fact these guys can't shoot or will not shoot
The press is now just turning on philly organization for handling of Fultz
I will certainly attempt to blow the candles out of Philly's and Lakers players and rookies  and praise Celtics players which gets called hyperbole.
I have never heard STOP IT to Marcus critics

i posted bust now that means at this moment- for their draft position or hype-

[GratefulCs]

Another day, another new Rollie thread about everyone else’s young players being busts.

i dig it

he's saying what i'm hoping