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Re: This team is just - Refreshing
« Reply #30 on: November 04, 2017, 07:12:56 PM »

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Re: This team is just - Refreshing
« Reply #31 on: November 06, 2017, 09:27:39 PM »

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What's really refreshing about this team is that it's winning the way you win championships in this league.....offense.

Re: This team is just - Refreshing
« Reply #32 on: November 06, 2017, 10:08:34 PM »

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Re: This team is just - Refreshing
« Reply #33 on: November 07, 2017, 01:10:08 AM »

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This thread really comes off as bashing last year's team in praise of this year's. Is this team better? It's supposed to be and that doesn't diminish the thrill ride that was last year's team.
I don't know why anyone else watches the games, I watch them for the back and forth, ebb and flow of momentum and excitement with an extra dose of mythology; last year's team had that in spades and this year's team does too. With better, longer and more athletic players. 
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Re: This team is just - Refreshing
« Reply #34 on: November 07, 2017, 01:39:17 AM »

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This thread really comes off as bashing last year's team in praise of this year's. Is this team better? It's supposed to be and that doesn't diminish the thrill ride that was last year's team.
I don't know why anyone else watches the games, I watch them for the back and forth, ebb and flow of momentum and excitement with an extra dose of mythology; last year's team had that in spades and this year's team does too. With better, longer and more athletic players.
No it isnt.

Re: This team is just - Refreshing
« Reply #35 on: November 07, 2017, 01:43:11 AM »

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What's really refreshing about this team is that it's winning the way you win championships in this league.....offense.
Bad news man

2017 Celtics through 11 games:
Offensive rating: 105.5(12th in NBA)
Defensive rating: 95.9(1st in NBA)

2016 Celtics:
Offensive rating: 108.6(8th in NBA)
Defensive rating: 105.5(12th in NBA)

Re: This team is just - Refreshing
« Reply #36 on: November 07, 2017, 07:17:01 AM »

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What's really refreshing about this team is that it's winning the way you win championships in this league.....offense.
Bad news man

2017 Celtics through 11 games:
Offensive rating: 105.5(12th in NBA)
Defensive rating: 95.9(1st in NBA)

2016 Celtics:
Offensive rating: 108.6(8th in NBA)
Defensive rating: 105.5(12th in NBA)
So then do we admit things like Avery Bradley and Jae Crowder weren't good defenders? And that Smart's has slipped?

This team could run last year's out of the gym.

Re: This team is just - Refreshing
« Reply #37 on: November 07, 2017, 07:43:08 AM »

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What's really refreshing about this team is that it's winning the way you win championships in this league.....offense.
Bad news man

2017 Celtics through 11 games:
Offensive rating: 105.5(12th in NBA)
Defensive rating: 95.9(1st in NBA)

2016 Celtics:
Offensive rating: 108.6(8th in NBA)
Defensive rating: 105.5(12th in NBA)
I dont think you get quite the point..
Sure the offensive rating of last yr's team was better but the dynamics in the way this yr's team would score is miles better.
Last yr it was IT and get the heck outof the way and the occasional AB led the team in scoring...but this yr we can score in a variety of ways without being too over reliant to Kyrie...and if we need KI to go on beast mode he willingly obliges.

Besides..our offensive rating is by no means already a finish product...for all we know we can still improve in this department and still end up with a better offensive rating than last yr's team.

I much rather prefer this yr's team than last yr's even without GH as it is..

Re: This team is just - Refreshing
« Reply #38 on: November 07, 2017, 07:54:47 AM »

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Wasn't last year pace way higher than this team's?

Re: This team is just - Refreshing
« Reply #39 on: November 07, 2017, 08:07:05 AM »

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Wasn't last year pace way higher than this team's?

Just a little.  This year we're at 96.2 possessions per game, last year was 96.8, although we're 26th this year and we were 13th in the league last year.  It seems we're forcing teams deep into the shot clock,  and that when we're in the half court on offense we're often going late into the clock as well.

Also, winning is refreshing.

Re: This team is just - Refreshing
« Reply #40 on: November 07, 2017, 08:07:06 AM »

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What's really refreshing about this team is that it's winning the way you win championships in this league.....offense.
Bad news man

2017 Celtics through 11 games:
Offensive rating: 105.5(12th in NBA)
Defensive rating: 95.9(1st in NBA)

2016 Celtics:
Offensive rating: 108.6(8th in NBA)
Defensive rating: 105.5(12th in NBA)

The most interesting part was that 2016 team was without Al Horford for almost all of those first 11 games.

Re: This team is just - Refreshing
« Reply #41 on: November 07, 2017, 08:35:56 AM »

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This thread really comes off as bashing last year's team in praise of this year's. Is this team better? It's supposed to be and that doesn't diminish the thrill ride that was last year's team.
I don't know why anyone else watches the games, I watch them for the back and forth, ebb and flow of momentum and excitement with an extra dose of mythology; last year's team had that in spades and this year's team does too. With better, longer and more athletic players.
No it isnt.

You dont think a +9 net rating team (granted, small sample) is better than a +2.6 net rating team?

Mmm dunno about that one. If this team keeps playing the way its playing now, Im not sure how you can possibly say last year's team was better.


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Re: This team is just - Refreshing
« Reply #42 on: November 07, 2017, 10:13:16 AM »

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This thread really comes off as bashing last year's team in praise of this year's. Is this team better? It's supposed to be and that doesn't diminish the thrill ride that was last year's team.
I don't know why anyone else watches the games, I watch them for the back and forth, ebb and flow of momentum and excitement with an extra dose of mythology; last year's team had that in spades and this year's team does too. With better, longer and more athletic players.
No it isnt.

You dont think a +9 net rating team (granted, small sample) is better than a +2.6 net rating team?

Mmm dunno about that one. If this team keeps playing the way its playing now, Im not sure how you can possibly say last year's team was better.

I am more interested in the net rating too. Last year's team felt like they had to outscore teams in order to win. This team feels like everyone else is trying to keep pace with the Celtics.

Re: This team is just - Refreshing
« Reply #43 on: November 08, 2017, 12:35:34 PM »

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This thread really comes off as bashing last year's team in praise of this year's. Is this team better? It's supposed to be and that doesn't diminish the thrill ride that was last year's team.
I don't know why anyone else watches the games, I watch them for the back and forth, ebb and flow of momentum and excitement with an extra dose of mythology; last year's team had that in spades and this year's team does too. With better, longer and more athletic players.
No it isnt.

You dont think a +9 net rating team (granted, small sample) is better than a +2.6 net rating team?

Mmm dunno about that one. If this team keeps playing the way its playing now, Im not sure how you can possibly say last year's team was better.
A few things here.

First, I messed up the bolding. Meant to highlight the "its supposed to be." My fault there. Bad communication.

That said, net rating through 11 games is a bit sketchy. Plus weve played the second easiest schedule in the league. Way too early to crown this team as better than last years 53 game winning version.

Re: This team is just - Refreshing
« Reply #44 on: November 08, 2017, 12:35:59 PM »

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What's really refreshing about this team is that it's winning the way you win championships in this league.....offense.
Bad news man

2017 Celtics through 11 games:
Offensive rating: 105.5(12th in NBA)
Defensive rating: 95.9(1st in NBA)

2016 Celtics:
Offensive rating: 108.6(8th in NBA)
Defensive rating: 105.5(12th in NBA)

The most interesting part was that 2016 team was without Al Horford for almost all of those first 11 games.
2016 ratings are for the entire season.