Author Topic: This team is NOT a championship  (Read 6538 times)

0 Members and 0 Guests are viewing this topic.

This team is NOT a championship
« on: September 28, 2017, 12:22:54 AM »

Offline TheReaLPuba

  • Bill Walton
  • *
  • Posts: 1031
  • Tommy Points: 79
contending team.

There's talent on this team yes...but there's too many holes.

No bench.

No defense.

No rebounding.

No clutch role players that just make the big plays.

I mean which Big 3 do you guys think is better: '08 C's with Garnett, Allen, and PP or KYrie, Horford, and Hayward?

I think the '08 team would have trouble with these Warriors if I was being realistic....but yeah that's how far apart we really are.

I'm sure next season will be exciting but let's not get ahead of ourselves just yet.

Re: This team is NOT a championship
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2017, 12:24:49 AM »

Offline Chris22

  • Rajon Rondo
  • *****
  • Posts: 5081
  • Tommy Points: 460
LOL
Save this thread, folks.

Re: This team is NOT a championship
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2017, 12:28:19 AM »

Offline incoherent

  • Don Chaney
  • *
  • Posts: 1856
  • Tommy Points: 278
  • 7 + 11 = 18
This team could win a championship with just a little bit of luck.

Most teams would need a lot of luck and many miracles to sniff the Conference Finals.

I'll take what we have and not set limits on how far we can go.


Re: This team is NOT a championship
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2017, 12:41:14 AM »

Offline SparzWizard

  • Bill Sharman
  • *******************
  • Posts: 19459
  • Tommy Points: 1140
Defense? What's that?

Offense wins championships!


#FireJoe
#JTJB (Just Trade Jaylen Brown) 2022 - 2025
I am the Master of Panic.

Re: This team is NOT a championship
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2017, 12:49:43 AM »

Offline rocknrollforyoursoul

  • Danny Ainge
  • **********
  • Posts: 10318
  • Tommy Points: 352
contending team.

There's talent on this team yes...but there's too many holes.

No bench.

No defense.

No rebounding.

No clutch role players that just make the big plays.

I mean which Big 3 do you guys think is better: '08 C's with Garnett, Allen, and PP or KYrie, Horford, and Hayward?

I think the '08 team would have trouble with these Warriors if I was being realistic....but yeah that's how far apart we really are.

I'm sure next season will be exciting but let's not get ahead of ourselves just yet.

Aron Baynes is my new favorite Celtic, and he's gonna be doing some serious cleaning of the boards!!! ;D
There are two kinds of people: those who say to God, 'Thy will be done,' and those to whom God says, 'All right, then, have it your way.'

You don't have a soul. You are a Soul. You have a body.

C.S. Lewis

Re: This team is NOT a championship
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2017, 12:51:33 AM »

Offline gouki88

  • NCE
  • Red Auerbach
  • *******************************
  • Posts: 31552
  • Tommy Points: 3142
  • 2019 & 2021 CS Historical Draft Champion
It's almost as if you're unfamiliar with our entire roster.
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: This team is NOT a championship
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2017, 01:08:23 AM »

Offline bigal534

  • Sam Hauser
  • Posts: 154
  • Tommy Points: 56
contending team.

There's talent on this team yes...but there's too many holes.

No bench.  --- See: Tatum, Rozier, Smart/Brown, Theis

No defense. ---- See: Smart, Brown, Rozier, Al, Gordon, Semi

No rebounding. ---- See: Aron Bane Baynes, Theis, Hayward, Rozier

No clutch role players that just make the big plays. --- See: Rozier, Smart, and i feel like Jaylen and Tatum are being severly underrated.

I mean which Big 3 do you guys think is better: '08 C's with Garnett, Allen, and PP or KYrie, Horford, and Hayward? ---- This is comparing an all time great team to our current very very good 2017 Celtics. Of course 2018 had the better Big 3.

I think the '08 team would have trouble with these Warriors if I was being realistic....but yeah that's how far apart we really are. ---- Wrong. 08 team would compete, and in my mind, beat GS if healthy.

I'm sure next season will be exciting but let's not get ahead of ourselves just yet. --- 58-24, book it


Re: This team is NOT a championship
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2017, 01:25:31 AM »

Offline CELTICSofBOSTON

  • Jaylen Brown
  • Posts: 517
  • Tommy Points: 73
I think in a normal year we could compete for a championship but nobody is gonna beat the Warriors 4 times.

Re: This team is NOT a championship
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2017, 01:44:51 AM »

Offline Quetzalcoatl

  • Antoine Walker
  • ****
  • Posts: 4103
  • Tommy Points: 419
I think our team is just really well crafted for the modern game and is exploiting a lot of things other teams are still taking for granted.  I think we'll be sort of like Houston was last year with a real chance to come out of the East.  A lot of the complaints/concerns I see about our new roster are not the same size issues anymore

Re: This team is NOT a championship
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2017, 01:52:07 AM »

Offline TheSundanceKid

  • Bailey Howell
  • **
  • Posts: 2493
  • Tommy Points: 199
We're 8 deep with experienced NBA level players, with 3 all stars. Then we have Rozier who is just waiting for his chance and 4 rookies who have a good chance of impacting this roster in the regular season.

Come playoff time I expect us to have filled the 15th roster spot with a vet who can play spot minutes in one of our holes, something like a spot up shooter to back up the sg spot.

This roster still has a very good shot of finishing top in the East and getting to the ECF. We also have a better shot at beating Cleveland if you ask me. Let's see if we have to face the Warriors this year, there are teams in the West who have set themselves up to beat them, they aren't clear water ahead.

Re: This team is NOT a championship
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2017, 02:03:56 AM »

Online keevsnick

  • Tiny Archibald
  • *******
  • Posts: 7082
  • Tommy Points: 692
I think there's a difference in asking "Will this team win the championship this year?" vs "Could this team win a championship" The answer t the first question is no, GWS are too good and even if we beat Clevland and GS went down with injures I'd like the Spurs, Rockets and probably the Thunder (its close) over us in the west. But this team has a lot of talent, and in a down year with no elite team(s) this team is good enough I think to win and it not be a fluke.

Re: This team is NOT a championship
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2017, 03:51:30 AM »

Offline crimson_stallion

  • Rajon Rondo
  • *****
  • Posts: 5964
  • Tommy Points: 875
contending team.

There's talent on this team yes...but there's too many holes.

No bench.  --- See: Tatum, Rozier, Smart/Brown, Theis

No defense. ---- See: Smart, Brown, Rozier, Al, Gordon, Semi

No rebounding. ---- See: Aron Bane Baynes, Theis, Hayward, Rozier

No clutch role players that just make the big plays. --- See: Rozier, Smart, and i feel like Jaylen and Tatum are being severly underrated.

I mean which Big 3 do you guys think is better: '08 C's with Garnett, Allen, and PP or KYrie, Horford, and Hayward? ---- This is comparing an all time great team to our current very very good 2017 Celtics. Of course 2018 had the better Big 3.

I think the '08 team would have trouble with these Warriors if I was being realistic....but yeah that's how far apart we really are. ---- Wrong. 08 team would compete, and in my mind, beat GS if healthy.

I'm sure next season will be exciting but let's not get ahead of ourselves just yet. --- 58-24, book it


Did you really just list Hayward (career 4.8 REB Per 36), Rozier (6'2" and 6.7 career REB Per 36) and Theis (~ 8 REB Per 36 against 2nd string euro players) as three of the answers to our rebounding problems? 

 :'(

Re: This team is NOT a championship
« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2017, 04:45:49 AM »

Offline TheReaLPuba

  • Bill Walton
  • *
  • Posts: 1031
  • Tommy Points: 79
I think there's a difference in asking "Will this team win the championship this year?" vs "Could this team win a championship" The answer t the first question is no, GWS are too good and even if we beat Clevland and GS went down with injures I'd like the Spurs, Rockets and probably the Thunder (its close) over us in the west. But this team has a lot of talent, and in a down year with no elite team(s) this team is good enough I think to win and it not be a fluke.

Getting to the ECF is fools gold.

Cavs are still ahead of us in terms of upper level talent.

Maybe next year we will own the East (once LeBron leaves) but until then we got to develop our youth or trade for one more AS.

Re: This team is NOT a championship
« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2017, 04:48:34 AM »

Offline TheReaLPuba

  • Bill Walton
  • *
  • Posts: 1031
  • Tommy Points: 79
contending team.

There's talent on this team yes...but there's too many holes.

No bench.  --- See: Tatum, Rozier, Smart/Brown, Theis

No defense. ---- See: Smart, Brown, Rozier, Al, Gordon, Semi

No rebounding. ---- See: Aron Bane Baynes, Theis, Hayward, Rozier

No clutch role players that just make the big plays. --- See: Rozier, Smart, and i feel like Jaylen and Tatum are being severly underrated.

I mean which Big 3 do you guys think is better: '08 C's with Garnett, Allen, and PP or KYrie, Horford, and Hayward? ---- This is comparing an all time great team to our current very very good 2017 Celtics. Of course 2018 had the better Big 3.

I think the '08 team would have trouble with these Warriors if I was being realistic....but yeah that's how far apart we really are. ---- Wrong. 08 team would compete, and in my mind, beat GS if healthy.

I'm sure next season will be exciting but let's not get ahead of ourselves just yet. --- 58-24, book it


Did you really just list Hayward (career 4.8 REB Per 36), Rozier (6'2" and 6.7 career REB Per 36) and Theis (~ 8 REB Per 36 against 2nd string euro players) as three of the answers to our rebounding problems? 

 :'(

I don't think grasp the idea that if our best rebounders are a two guard, small forward, and a guy who hasn't played a second in the NBA then we are in trouble lol

Re: This team is NOT a championship
« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2017, 04:51:38 AM »

Offline DooVoo

  • Sam Hauser
  • Posts: 162
  • Tommy Points: 32
contending team.

There's talent on this team yes...but there's too many holes.

No bench.  --- See: Tatum, Rozier, Smart/Brown, Theis

No defense. ---- See: Smart, Brown, Rozier, Al, Gordon, Semi

No rebounding. ---- See: Aron Bane Baynes, Theis, Hayward, Rozier

No clutch role players that just make the big plays. --- See: Rozier, Smart, and i feel like Jaylen and Tatum are being severly underrated.

I mean which Big 3 do you guys think is better: '08 C's with Garnett, Allen, and PP or KYrie, Horford, and Hayward? ---- This is comparing an all time great team to our current very very good 2017 Celtics. Of course 2018 had the better Big 3.

I think the '08 team would have trouble with these Warriors if I was being realistic....but yeah that's how far apart we really are. ---- Wrong. 08 team would compete, and in my mind, beat GS if healthy.

I'm sure next season will be exciting but let's not get ahead of ourselves just yet. --- 58-24, book it


Did you really just list Hayward (career 4.8 REB Per 36), Rozier (6'2" and 6.7 career REB Per 36) and Theis (~ 8 REB Per 36 against 2nd string euro players) as three of the answers to our rebounding problems? 

 :'(

Total Rebound Pct is a much better stat to use since it estimates the percentage the player grabbed of rebounds available when he is on the floor.