This team is NOT a championship

[DooVoo]

contending team.

There's talent on this team yes...but there's too many holes.

No bench.  --- See: Tatum, Rozier, Smart/Brown, Theis

No defense. ---- See: Smart, Brown, Rozier, Al, Gordon, Semi

No rebounding. ---- See: Aron Bane Baynes, Theis, Hayward, Rozier

No clutch role players that just make the big plays. --- See: Rozier, Smart, and i feel like Jaylen and Tatum are being severly underrated.

I mean which Big 3 do you guys think is better: '08 C's with Garnett, Allen, and PP or KYrie, Horford, and Hayward? ---- This is comparing an all time great team to our current very very good 2017 Celtics. Of course 2018 had the better Big 3.

I think the '08 team would have trouble with these Warriors if I was being realistic....but yeah that's how far apart we really are. ---- Wrong. 08 team would compete, and in my mind, beat GS if healthy.

I'm sure next season will be exciting but let's not get ahead of ourselves just yet. --- 58-24, book it

Did you really just list Hayward (career 4.8 REB Per 36), Rozier (6'2" and 6.7 career REB Per 36) and Theis (~ 8 REB Per 36 against 2nd string euro players) as three of the answers to our rebounding problems? 

 

I don't think grasp the idea that if our best rebounders are a two guard, small forward, and a guy who hasn't played a second in the NBA then we are in trouble lol

I don't quite think you understand today's NBA. The Celtics are one of the most talented teams in the league. Probably the most talented team in the East although beating Lebron in a series will still be difficult. That is how you win games.

[Moranis]

Boston is probably the 7th best team in the league, but it is one of the youngest of those 7 teams so the future is bright.

[celticinorlando]

contending team.

There's talent on this team yes...but there's too many holes.

No bench.

No defense.

No rebounding.

No clutch role players that just make the big plays.

I mean which Big 3 do you guys think is better: '08 C's with Garnett, Allen, and PP or KYrie, Horford, and Hayward?

I think the '08 team would have trouble with these Warriors if I was being realistic....but yeah that's how far apart we really are.

I'm sure next season will be exciting but let's not get ahead of ourselves just yet.

You sound like a fan that loves misery.

[slamtheking]

Boston is probably the 7th best team in the league, but it is one of the youngest of those 7 teams so the future is bright.

shocking - the usual "doom and gloom everything Celtics sucks" start but you ended on a positive note.  that's not like you. 

I'd go top six at least.
1. GSW
2-6 (in no particular order): SAS, Houston, OKC, Cleveland, Boston.

not sure who else you're including in that group to make it 7.  Certainly no one else in the East.  Toronto and Washington are a step behind Cavs and C's.  Clips in the West are also a step behind particularly without CP3.  not seeing anyone else in the West that I'd consider in that top ranking at this point.

[Spilling Green Dye]

contending team.

There's talent on this team yes...but there's too many holes.

No bench.

No defense.

No rebounding.

No clutch role players that just make the big plays.

I mean which Big 3 do you guys think is better: '08 C's with Garnett, Allen, and PP or KYrie, Horford, and Hayward?

I think the '08 team would have trouble with these Warriors if I was being realistic....but yeah that's how far apart we really are.

I'm sure next season will be exciting but let's not get ahead of ourselves just yet.

Are you watching the same NBA as the rest of us?  Kyrie Irving made one of the biggest shots in NBA history:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ8yCJgsF_4

He was also clutch in a number of other games, including against us. 

Our rebounding has improved, but it remains to be seen how much. 

Like others here have stated, in no way are we expecting to be favored to win the championship, but with some luck we can certainly compete for one.  Just look at the East.. som e bad mojo/luck for the Cavs and we have a very good chance to make the finals.  After that, never really know.

[slamtheking]

I think there's a difference in asking "Will this team win the championship this year?" vs "Could this team win a championship" The answer t the first question is no, GWS are too good and even if we beat Clevland and GS went down with injures I'd like the Spurs, Rockets and probably the Thunder (its close) over us in the west. But this team has a lot of talent, and in a down year with no elite team(s) this team is good enough I think to win and it not be a fluke.

that's a valid distinction.

they probably won't with the title this year but they're good enough to have a shot at it.  GSW is the favorite but they'll likely have to go through 2 of OKC, SAS and Houston to get to the Finals whereas the C's only really have the Cavs as their finals competition in the East.  After the C's offseason, I don't see as much talent separation between those 2 as there was last year.  C's have a legit shot at getting to the finals where GSW may be worn out a bit from playing against 2 tough teams in prior series. 

[Moranis]

Boston is probably the 7th best team in the league, but it is one of the youngest of those 7 teams so the future is bright.

shocking - the usual "doom and gloom everything Celtics sucks" start but you ended on a positive note.  that's not like you. 

I'd go top six at least.
1. GSW
2-6 (in no particular order): SAS, Houston, OKC, Cleveland, Boston.

not sure who else you're including in that group to make it 7.  Certainly no one else in the East.  Toronto and Washington are a step behind Cavs and C's.  Clips in the West are also a step behind particularly without CP3.  not seeing anyone else in the West that I'd consider in that top ranking at this point.

Minnesota.  Teague, Butler, Wiggins, Gibson, Towns is a very strong starting 5 (mostly young also) and the top 3 on the bench are pretty good as well in Dieng, Crawford, Jones. 

[Androslav]

@OP
Another Clipper/Cavs/? fan disappointed in their future?
Look, man, I am really sorry about your team performing so underwhelming, just leave the Celtics out of it. Pick another team from the 29 left.

Your conclusion that our team is not perfect is nothing new, as you can say that for any team sport in any (original Dream team) team sport ever played, men/women, in/on water, on snow, with or without the ball.

I don't need them to be perfect, they can just play our, Celtic way, and I will be OK.

[slamtheking]

Boston is probably the 7th best team in the league, but it is one of the youngest of those 7 teams so the future is bright.

shocking - the usual "doom and gloom everything Celtics sucks" start but you ended on a positive note.  that's not like you. 

I'd go top six at least.
1. GSW
2-6 (in no particular order): SAS, Houston, OKC, Cleveland, Boston.

not sure who else you're including in that group to make it 7.  Certainly no one else in the East.  Toronto and Washington are a step behind Cavs and C's.  Clips in the West are also a step behind particularly without CP3.  not seeing anyone else in the West that I'd consider in that top ranking at this point.

Minnesota.  Teague, Butler, Wiggins, Gibson, Towns is a very strong starting 5 (mostly young also) and the top 3 on the bench are pretty good as well in Dieng, Crawford, Jones. 

I think it's premature to project them as a top 7 team in the league -- even saying they're at the level below the other 6 would be generous.  I'd put Washington, Clips and Toronto ahead of them.

[KGBirdBias]

BREAKING NEWS: This team isn't built to win a title this year. It's built to win 2-3 titles over the next 5-7 years. Bron will not be around forever.

[PAOBoston]

Who legitimately thought they were going to be contenders for THIS season? I'd say a small minority if any. The plan has always been long term viability. The C's have a young team but can be in the mix inn the short term until the young guys are ready. Then they can take the next step and be legit contenders.

[Moranis]

Boston is probably the 7th best team in the league, but it is one of the youngest of those 7 teams so the future is bright.

shocking - the usual "doom and gloom everything Celtics sucks" start but you ended on a positive note.  that's not like you. 

I'd go top six at least.
1. GSW
2-6 (in no particular order): SAS, Houston, OKC, Cleveland, Boston.

not sure who else you're including in that group to make it 7.  Certainly no one else in the East.  Toronto and Washington are a step behind Cavs and C's.  Clips in the West are also a step behind particularly without CP3.  not seeing anyone else in the West that I'd consider in that top ranking at this point.

Minnesota.  Teague, Butler, Wiggins, Gibson, Towns is a very strong starting 5 (mostly young also) and the top 3 on the bench are pretty good as well in Dieng, Crawford, Jones. 

I think it's premature to project them as a top 7 team in the league -- even saying they're at the level below the other 6 would be generous.  I'd put Washington, Clips and Toronto ahead of them.

Fair enough.  ESPN projected them pretty clearly as 5th in the West and 7th overall (behind Boston obviously), but I think if they were in the East it would be a different situation.  Butler is the highest ranked player (by ESPN, SI, and Yahoo) on the 2 teams.  KAT and Wiggins are both rising stars.  Teague and Gibson are very competent and complimentary veterans.  I just really like what Minnesota has done, though like Boston they have to incorporate a lot of new pieces and unlike Boston play in the West.  I could see them winning 45 games, but still being "better" than a 50+ win team in the East. 

[johnnygreen]

Boston is probably the 7th best team in the league, but it is one of the youngest of those 7 teams so the future is bright.

shocking - the usual "doom and gloom everything Celtics sucks" start but you ended on a positive note.  that's not like you. 

I'd go top six at least.
1. GSW
2-6 (in no particular order): SAS, Houston, OKC, Cleveland, Boston.

not sure who else you're including in that group to make it 7.  Certainly no one else in the East.  Toronto and Washington are a step behind Cavs and C's.  Clips in the West are also a step behind particularly without CP3.  not seeing anyone else in the West that I'd consider in that top ranking at this point.

Minnesota.  Teague, Butler, Wiggins, Gibson, Towns is a very strong starting 5 (mostly young also) and the top 3 on the bench are pretty good as well in Dieng, Crawford, Jones.

Why don't we wait until Minnesota makes it into the playoffs first before declaring them one of the 7 best teams in the league.

The Spurs have one of the best players in the league in Leonard and arguably the best coach too. However, there's not much to like after that. Parker and Ginobli are probably too old and fragile at this point to sustain a long playoff run. Aldridge played like he was 50 years old last season.

As much as the prospect of having Chris Paul and Harden on the same team sounds, the rest of the roster leaves little to be desired.

Having said that, I would have Golden State, Oklahoma City, and Cleveland ahead of the Celtics. Even if you want to put Minnesota, San Antonio, and Houston ahead of the Celtics too, the good news is the Celtics would only have to beat one team out of the West if they made it to the Finals.

[Miranda-Kerr]

Booo this man

Booooooo! 

[Kuberski33]

LOL
Save this thread, folks.

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