VERY concerned about Irving's attitude

[Roy H.]

Rather him talk selfish then play selfish like IT

You're going to be in for a surprise.

What does that mean?

Do you have insider info on Kyrie Irving? What do you know that the rest of the basketball viewers around here don't know?

His past should have very little to do with his future, considering that he is coming to a team where he is expected to be a floor general and leader. This was not the expectation in Cleveland.

Lebron James has an effect on teams. He undoubtedly makes them better, but also changes the chemistry- for better and worse.

Is the entirety of his career to date just irrelevant?

To date, Kyrie has shown himself to be more selfish than IT both on and off the court.

You've really made it your mission to paint Kyrie as inferior to IT for some reason. I get not liking the trade, but it's gone a bit far.

In what way has it gone too far? 

Kyrie has been more selfish on the court (by assist percentage, both individually and by team rank)and more selfish off it (trade demands, giving teammates the silent treatment, coach killing, clashing with teammates).

Maybe he'll improve, but he's been pretty much the definition of selfish. His "brand" comes before team. 

[mainevent]

Let's see, could it be that he talked about himself because uh...er.....he wants the fans to get to know HIM? BTW, he spoke about the TEAM quite a bit as well LOL> Definitely in the top 5 of useless threads this off-season.  The season can't come fast enough SMDH.

[RJ87]

Rather him talk selfish then play selfish like IT

You're going to be in for a surprise.

What does that mean?

Do you have insider info on Kyrie Irving? What do you know that the rest of the basketball viewers around here don't know?

His past should have very little to do with his future, considering that he is coming to a team where he is expected to be a floor general and leader. This was not the expectation in Cleveland.

Lebron James has an effect on teams. He undoubtedly makes them better, but also changes the chemistry- for better and worse.

Is the entirety of his career to date just irrelevant?

To date, Kyrie has shown himself to be more selfish than IT both on and off the court.

You've really made it your mission to paint Kyrie as inferior to IT for some reason. I get not liking the trade, but it's gone a bit far.

In what way has it gone too far? 

Kyrie has been more selfish on the court (by assist percentage, both individually and by team rank)and more selfish off it (trade demands, giving teammates the silent treatment, coach killing, clashing with teammates).

Maybe he'll improve, but he's been pretty much the definition of selfish. His "brand" comes before team.

Coach killing? That's a stretch, even for you Roy. Byron Scott is not a good NBA coach right now, Mike Brown should not have been hired in Cleveland a second time, and it was an open secret that LeBron wanted David Blatt out because he wanted to be coached by a former player.

Even so, you're neglecting IT's past in Sacramento and Phoenix, where it's been alleged he's been an issue in the locker room. It's also hard to take you seriously knowing how much of a Demarcus Cousins apologist you are.

[moiso]

Nothing from that press conference indicated to me a level of selfishness that is troublesome.

Reporters were posing questions DIRECTED AT IRVING!  What was the guy supposed to do?

I thought he was extremely well spoken.  I particularly enjoyed how he started off things with his "real world" comments and his admiration for his new teammates & coaching staff. 

Saw zero red flags yesterday.

Extremely well-spoken?!  Here's a transcript of his first comment.  I didn't omit any words, but it reads as though I have.  He has an almost Trump-like quality to his speech, darting from one idea to another, omitting words seemingly at random, mixing idioms and inventing new uses for words.

Now, mind you, I don't give two $hit$ about the manner of his speech and I'm not playing grammar police.  He was hired to get buckets and he's one of the best in the world at his job. I'm sure he was nervous too.  But I would not say he's "extremely well-spoken".  I think he should stay away from the mic.    Here's the exact quote:

Q: You said that you want to maximize your potential.  Why do you feel that Boston could be that place for you?

First and foremost, before we get into that question, before we get dive into the importance of why we're all here, I just want appreciate everyone up here on this stage and the opportunity that's in front of us to go after something that's bigger than ourselves, but before we get to that I just want to say that sometimes we get lost into these two hoops and it's basketball that the most humane things that make us human we lose track of sometimes and I want to take a timeout to, you know, wish my well energy and heartfelt to Jae Crowder and his mother because that's a hard situation to go through, especially when he gets wrapped up in all this, as well as I.T.'s sister and as well as those affected in Charlottesville and those affected in Houston.  That is all reality-based and I live in that world.  In this basketball me perfecting my craft is very important to me, but outside of this game I live a very much real life and I appreciate the people around me as we as all the human beings I end up meeting and I just wanted to come out and say that -- that my appreciation for the world goes deeper than I think a lot of people realize and I take my respects for all those people as well as everyone affected by anything, you know.  We're all here with you and my prayers are with you so... now that I said that, now that I could officially move on to answering that. 

he's not extremely well spoken in the general sense
But compared to other nba players, he is extremely well spoken. Have you seen the mumblers in the league

He speaks into the microphone.  He's audible.  He enunciates and you can identify the words that come out of his mouth.  The words don't form coherent sentences.  Is that our standard for "extremely well-spoken"?

Are you using the little cut that you provided as evidence that he can't form coherent sentences? If so, yikes. Your deductive reasoning might need work. You can't use one snippet to say that he can't put together a coherent sentence. You should use the entirety of the presser. Most people here would disagree with your premise.

I thought that his answers, in general, were well thought out. At the same time, why does any of this matter? If he scores 30 ppg this year, do you think anyone will care about what he said in August?

I already said it doesn't matter.  Someone said he's well-spoken.  He isn't.  That simple.  I'd be thrilled to have him on the team if he was mute.

Huh? You are saying that you are not thrilled by having Kyrie unless he is incapable of speaking?Would that make him a good leader?

You guys are starting to grasp at straws to find negative things about Kyrie. It's ok to say you don't like him. It just feels weird to read such drivel.

Come on boys, let's step up the level of conversation around here! No one said you need to love Kyrie. I just want to read well reasoned arguments supporting this case.

Reportedly he was a mute to his teammates for a 3 day period in last years playoffs.  Did that make him a good leader?

[Dino Pitino]

Reportedly he was a mute to his teammates for a 3 day period in last years playoffs.  Did that make him a good leader?

Depends on why. Maybe they needed it? But seriously, that is a red flag, or a question mark at least. Is there any press on why he did that?

[Celtics4ever]

Reportedly he was a mute to his teammates for a 3 day period in last years playoffs.  Did that make him a good leader?

26. 40, 38, 19, 24  NBA finals scoring. =29.4 PPG

That is not good enough scoring for you?  He shot 47% from the field, and 42% from the three line, 4.4 APG

http://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/6442/kyrie-irving

That is sharing the ball with LeBron, too.

If I was Ainge, I would have want to seen IT have the surgery right after the season.   But NO!!  These guys always wait for camp to start so they can take half the season off.   But no one mentions this stuff.   Were you guys ok with that?

[Dino Pitino]

Reportedly he was a mute to his teammates for a 3 day period in last years playoffs.  Did that make him a good leader?

Depends on why. Maybe they needed it? But seriously, that is a red flag, or a question mark at least. Is there any press on why he did that?

https://sports.yahoo.com/report-kyrie-irving-gave-teammates-silent-treatment-playoff-practice-150318628.html

He didn't say anything at practice for a few days. He was sullen. Wondering about when it was going to be his time.

Yeah, I wouldn't say I'm VERY concerned about his attitude, but I'm definitely curious about it. Unfortunately, even if Kyrie opened up about it, it would probably be a wildly incoherent eloquent tangent about his intentions and reality. Let's just hope he's got nothing to sulk about on our team.

[nickagneta]

I was concerned before the trade and said if Danny was going to make the trade he would have to do his due diligence and investigate what type of person and team mate Kyrie was. Was Kyrie's asking to be traded, his game on the court, his intelligence, his work ethic, his demeanor around others and his attitude bad or good?

It turns out I read an article that said Ainge and the Celtics did just that. The Cs said they were good with the type of person and player Kyrie is. So, I am good with his attitude until while he is here he gives me a reason to think otherwise.

[max215]

I'm concerned about any player who doesn't want to play with LeBron James.

[Androslav]

I'm concerned that Kyrie will be concerned...
Relax guys.
On first play he will dribble through the legs and finish a reverse layup and you will go - I'm good!

[greece66]

I'm concerned that Kyrie will be concerned...
Relax guys.
On first play he will dribble through the legs and finish a reverse layup and you will go - I'm good!

^

The concern is growing too big in the forums. No reason for this really.

[hwangjini_1]

again, it is a long off season and many posters here are making mountains out of molehills.

what if irving has an attitude we dont like?

what if irving leaves in 2 years?

what if irving's legs fall off?

hopefully once the season begins the quality of the threads will improve. 

[tenn_smoothie]

I was concerned before the trade and said if Danny was going to make the trade he would have to do his due diligence and investigate what type of person and team mate Kyrie was. Was Kyrie's asking to be traded, his game on the court, his intelligence, his work ethic, his demeanor around others and his attitude bad or good?

It turns out I read an article that said Ainge and the Celtics did just that. The Cs said they were good with the type of person and player Kyrie is. So, I am good with his attitude until while he is here he gives me a reason to think otherwise.

How is it possible to investigate a player you have some concerns about without tampering ?

Ask Cavs execs ? What do you think they are going to say given their need to unload Irving?

Ask around the league ? Different people have different agendas and levels of inside knowledge.

Talk To Coach K ? Pleeeeeeeeeeease

Talk to players ? Maybe, but it would be awkward, borderline impossible to talk to current Cleveland teammates and who knows what their motives would be. A player who hated him might give a glowing report to expedite a trade.
 

[tenn_smoothie]

again, it is a long off season and many posters here are making mountains out of molehills.

what if irving has an attitude we dont like?

what if irving leaves in 2 years?

what if irving's legs fall off?

hopefully once the season begins the quality of the threads will improve. 

 I'm really happy getting tired of you whining babies. Go find another team to follow if you don't like our player's.

I LOVED our players two weeks ago - Now, I don't like one player.

[tenn_smoothie]

Extremely well-spoken?!  Here's a transcript of his first comment.  I didn't omit any words, but it reads as though I have.  He has an almost Trump-like quality to his speech, darting from one idea to another, omitting words seemingly at random, mixing idioms and inventing new uses for words.

He speaks into the microphone.  He's audible.  He enunciates and you can identify the words that come out of his mouth.  The words don't form coherent sentences.  Is that our standard for "extremely well-spoken"?

Thank god someone else noticed. He's somehow both eloquent and incoherent at the same time. Bits of eloquence incoherently pieced together.

Classic characteristic of a dumb person trying to sound sophisticated.