Hayward and Irving presser at 11am

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

Kyrie really is a rambler. It's like his thought process mimics his dribbling. Jukes this way, spins, zags that way, etc.

I agree with you about him being a rambler, but also with the guys impressed that he said the right things.  Yes, Irving pronounces his words perfectly but that definitely doesn't prove intelligence.  Rondo was a horrible public speaker but he's supposedly a super bright guy.  Bird couldn't speak either.

The guy believes the earth is flat. With all do respect, how smart can he be?

Anyway, at the end of the day all that matters is whether or not he is good enough at playing basketball. Imo he is an elite ISO scorer, but still, I wouldn't have traded the Nets pick for him.

TP. This might be the most concise, non-rambling non-Kyrie post that I have read. I agree with everything, except I think Kyrie is worth more than BKN 18.

In a vacuum, I believe Kyrie is worth more than the BKN pick as well. Problem is, the Warriors may very well be the best team in NBA history. If you can’t move the needle past them, it doesn’t mean anything. (Not to mention, we still have to beat the Cavs. LeBron has made 7 consecutive trips to the Finals.)

Imo, the best thing we could have done was to be patient and build through the draft. 

The guy believes the earth is flat. With all do respect, how smart can he be?

He doesn't really believe that. He's just a rambler trying to symbolize something incoherently.

http://www.weei.com/blogs/alex-reimer/kyrie-irving-almost-certainly-doesnt-think-earth-flat

I foresee us fans compiling Kyrie-isms.

FINALLY.

He doesn't actually believe that the earth is flat. He said this in the midst of the whole #FakeNews debacle, I always thought it was obvious he was trolling.

The fact that people still haven't grasped this just makes it one of the greatest trolls of all time.

Fair enough.

I'm not saying this is how you feel but I have heard many people say Ainge is a terrible drafter then I see some of the same people moan when he doesn't draft but opts for proven talent instead,  they also say he is one of the best if not the best at trading. The guy can't win with some people.

[MJohnnyboy]

This presser made me nostalgic and I feel like I should share this great memory with my fellow Celtics fans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfAtxXSkcfI&t=375s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDoXzhn9-Kc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=By83nOS5xdY

[Celtics4ever]

Imo, the best thing we could have done was to be patient and build through the draft. 

Because draft picks never bust?

[ayer]

Kyrie really is a rambler. It's like his thought process mimics his dribbling. Jukes this way, spins, zags that way, etc.

I agree with you about him being a rambler, but also with the guys impressed that he said the right things.  Yes, Irving pronounces his words perfectly but that definitely doesn't prove intelligence.  Rondo was a horrible public speaker but he's supposedly a super bright guy.  Bird couldn't speak either.

The guy believes the earth is flat. With all do respect, how smart can he be?

Anyway, at the end of the day all that matters is whether or not he is good enough at playing basketball. Imo he is an elite ISO scorer, but still, I wouldn't have traded the Nets pick for him.

TP. This might be the most concise, non-rambling non-Kyrie post that I have read. I agree with everything, except I think Kyrie is worth more than BKN 18.

In a vacuum, I believe Kyrie is worth more than the BKN pick as well. Problem is, the Warriors may very well be the best team in NBA history. If you can’t move the needle past them, it doesn’t mean anything. (Not to mention, we still have to beat the Cavs. LeBron has made 7 consecutive trips to the Finals.)

Imo, the best thing we could have done was to be patient and build through the draft. 

The guy believes the earth is flat. With all do respect, how smart can he be?

He doesn't really believe that. He's just a rambler trying to symbolize something incoherently.

http://www.weei.com/blogs/alex-reimer/kyrie-irving-almost-certainly-doesnt-think-earth-flat

I foresee us fans compiling Kyrie-isms.

FINALLY.

He doesn't actually believe that the earth is flat. He said this in the midst of the whole #FakeNews debacle, I always thought it was obvious he was trolling.

The fact that people still haven't grasped this just makes it one of the greatest trolls of all time.

Fair enough.

I'm not saying this is how you feel but I have heard many people say Ainge is a terrible drafter then I see some of the same people moan when he doesn't draft but opts for proven talent instead,  they also say he is one of the best if not the best at trading. The guy can't win with some people.

Ha!!! TP!!!

[RJ87]

Imo, the best thing we could have done was to be patient and build through the draft. 

Because draft picks never bust?

I don't understand the thought process. "The Warriors can't be beat, so let's not even try." You do your team such a disservice there. 1.) What happens if, while we waiting for the Warriors dynasty to go away, another arises? Should we keep kicking the can down the road? 2.) Injuries happen. We won in 2008 and were a supposed lock to get back the next year, but we didn't even make it back to the Finals that year because of KG's knee. Just punting on actually being competitive means you miss opportunities.

[GratefulCs]

Kyrie really is a rambler. It's like his thought process mimics his dribbling. Jukes this way, spins, zags that way, etc.

I agree with you about him being a rambler, but also with the guys impressed that he said the right things.  Yes, Irving pronounces his words perfectly but that definitely doesn't prove intelligence.  Rondo was a horrible public speaker but he's supposedly a super bright guy.  Bird couldn't speak either.

The guy believes the earth is flat. With all do respect, how smart can he be?

Anyway, at the end of the day all that matters is whether or not he is good enough at playing basketball. Imo he is an elite ISO scorer, but still, I wouldn't have traded the Nets pick for him.

TP. This might be the most concise, non-rambling non-Kyrie post that I have read. I agree with everything, except I think Kyrie is worth more than BKN 18.

In a vacuum, I believe Kyrie is worth more than the BKN pick as well. Problem is, the Warriors may very well be the best team in NBA history. If you can’t move the needle past them, it doesn’t mean anything. (Not to mention, we still have to beat the Cavs. LeBron has made 7 consecutive trips to the Finals.)

Imo, the best thing we could have done was to be patient and build through the draft. 

The guy believes the earth is flat. With all do respect, how smart can he be?

He doesn't really believe that. He's just a rambler trying to symbolize something incoherently.

http://www.weei.com/blogs/alex-reimer/kyrie-irving-almost-certainly-doesnt-think-earth-flat

I foresee us fans compiling Kyrie-isms.

FINALLY.

He doesn't actually believe that the earth is flat. He said this in the midst of the whole #FakeNews debacle, I always thought it was obvious he was trolling.

The fact that people still haven't grasped this just makes it one of the greatest trolls of all time.

Fair enough.

I'm not saying this is how you feel but I have heard many people say Ainge is a terrible drafter then I see some of the same people moan when he doesn't draft but opts for proven talent instead,  they also say he is one of the best if not the best at trading. The guy can't win with some people.

Ha!!! TP!!!

dude! your post to TP ratio is of the charts

[Csfan1984]

At the end of the day, does the whole "Earth is flat" thing (which I believe he's just screwing with people) matter in the least one bit or has proven to be an issue for him on court in the past 6 season he's been in the league?

Whole much ado about nothing.

The court is flat and for some players that is their whole world   

[Jvalin]

Imo, the best thing we could have done was to be patient and build through the draft. 

Because draft picks never bust?

Because imo no matter what we do we aren't beating the Warriors.

I don't understand the thought process. "The Warriors can't be beat, so let's not even try." You do your team such a disservice there. 1.) What happens if, while we waiting for the Warriors dynasty to go away, another arises? Should we keep kicking the can down the road? 2.) Injuries happen. We won in 2008 and were a supposed lock to get back the next year, but we didn't even make it back to the Finals that year because of KG's knee. Just punting on actually being competitive means you miss opportunities.

1.) The Warriors can't be beaten because of a loophole. If it weren't for the sudden increase in the salary cap, they would never have gotten KD. Things like that rarely happen. The Warriors got extremely lucky (good for them obviously).

Don't get me wrong, they were already a great team prior to the KD acquisition (they went 73-9 in 2016 without KD). Having said that, they weren't hands down the best team in the league back then (despite the record). I mean, they lost to the Cavs that year, not to mention LeBron almost beat them by himself in 2015.

2.) Trading the Nets pick means we are in win-now mode. I wouldn't want us to sacrifice our future based on the hope that the Warriors might face an injury crisis during the playoffs.


Never said ''so let's not even try''. Hayward on his own would have made the C's hands down the second best team in the East (assuming IT would have been 100% healthy for the playoffs).

[RJ87]

Imo, the best thing we could have done was to be patient and build through the draft. 

Because draft picks never bust?

Because imo no matter what we do we aren't beating the Warriors.

I don't understand the thought process. "The Warriors can't be beat, so let's not even try." You do your team such a disservice there. 1.) What happens if, while we waiting for the Warriors dynasty to go away, another arises? Should we keep kicking the can down the road? 2.) Injuries happen. We won in 2008 and were a supposed lock to get back the next year, but we didn't even make it back to the Finals that year because of KG's knee. Just punting on actually being competitive means you miss opportunities.

1.) The Warriors can't be beaten because of a loophole. If it weren't for the sudden increase in the salary cap, they would never have gotten KD. Things like that rarely happen. The Warriors got extremely lucky (good for them obviously).

Don't get me wrong, they were already a great team prior to the KD acquisition (they went 73-9 in 2016 without KD). Having said that, they weren't hands down the best team in the league back then (despite the record). I mean, they lost to the Cavs that year, not to mention LeBron almost beat them by himself in 2015.

2.) Trading the Nets pick means we are in win-now mode. I wouldn't want us to sacrifice our future based on the hope that the Warriors are gonna face an injury crisis during the playoffs.


Never said ''so let's not even try''. Hayward on his own would have made the C's hands down second best team in the East (assuming IT would be 100% healthy for the playoffs).

We still have a pretty good pick from the Lakers on the way and our own pick, not to mention Jaylen and Jayson. People fell way too in love with that Nets pick. No guarantee it lands as high as this year's or that the player selected is as good as Kyrie - who's only 25, btw.

[csfansince60s]

I'm not reading any of the comments before I interpret what I just saw so not to affect my feelings.

KI is a smart dude who's thoughts seem to move like his crossovers. Most of us here with ADHD get that. His brain is way faster than his words so much faster he forgets what he was going to say because he's 6 thoughts ahead of it so he wings it. He hasn't learned to just keep it short so he rambles.

He's going to make for some interesting interviews and local talk show host are going to have a field day on him being a space cadet.

GH seems really excited. He's pretty much what you would expect his intro conference would be.

It's very clear they are building a team of gym nerds (smart on and off the court). Let's call it the James Young effect.

I have ADHD too and I can ramble for hours so it didn't bother me as much, but a few people have mentioned it so it must be worse than I noticed (my family had to learn to tune me out very early lol). It's hard for me to stay tuned into what I'm saying and I have been trying to work on it for years. Oh well, I'm fine with talking to myself!

I have ADD too, but it's my wife who talks to herself.

I ask her why she talks to herself, and she says to me " sometimes it's the only person I can have an intelligent conversation with!". She knows how to zing me.

[Jvalin]

Imo, the best thing we could have done was to be patient and build through the draft. 

Because draft picks never bust?

Because imo no matter what we do we aren't beating the Warriors.

I don't understand the thought process. "The Warriors can't be beat, so let's not even try." You do your team such a disservice there. 1.) What happens if, while we waiting for the Warriors dynasty to go away, another arises? Should we keep kicking the can down the road? 2.) Injuries happen. We won in 2008 and were a supposed lock to get back the next year, but we didn't even make it back to the Finals that year because of KG's knee. Just punting on actually being competitive means you miss opportunities.

1.) The Warriors can't be beaten because of a loophole. If it weren't for the sudden increase in the salary cap, they would never have gotten KD. Things like that rarely happen. The Warriors got extremely lucky (good for them obviously).

Don't get me wrong, they were already a great team prior to the KD acquisition (they went 73-9 in 2016 without KD). Having said that, they weren't hands down the best team in the league back then (despite the record). I mean, they lost to the Cavs that year, not to mention LeBron almost beat them by himself in 2015.

2.) Trading the Nets pick means we are in win-now mode. I wouldn't want us to sacrifice our future based on the hope that the Warriors are gonna face an injury crisis during the playoffs.


Never said ''so let's not even try''. Hayward on his own would have made the C's hands down second best team in the East (assuming IT would be 100% healthy for the playoffs).

We still have a pretty good pick from the Lakers on the way and our own pick, not to mention Jaylen and Jayson. People fell way too in love with that Nets pick. No guarantee it lands as high as this year's or that the player selected is as good as Kyrie - who's only 25, btw.

In all likelihood, our pick is gonna end up in the late 20s. Sure, we have either the Lakers or the Kings(/Sixers) pick, but we could have had one more lotto pick. Kyrie is not gonna help us beat the Warriors. In fact, no one is gonna help us beat the Warriors. We are sacrificing future assets and we are gonna hit a dead end. At least that's my point of view.

[GreenFaith1819]

Impressed by both - especially Kyrie.

Listening to him reminds me to not be so quick to judge why folks do things.

I can understand his POV better in regards to him leaving CLE and LeBron, now. I still say it's a bold move on his (and Hayward's) part in leaving but fortune favors the bold.

[RJ87]

Imo, the best thing we could have done was to be patient and build through the draft. 

Because draft picks never bust?

Because imo no matter what we do we aren't beating the Warriors.

I don't understand the thought process. "The Warriors can't be beat, so let's not even try." You do your team such a disservice there. 1.) What happens if, while we waiting for the Warriors dynasty to go away, another arises? Should we keep kicking the can down the road? 2.) Injuries happen. We won in 2008 and were a supposed lock to get back the next year, but we didn't even make it back to the Finals that year because of KG's knee. Just punting on actually being competitive means you miss opportunities.

1.) The Warriors can't be beaten because of a loophole. If it weren't for the sudden increase in the salary cap, they would never have gotten KD. Things like that rarely happen. The Warriors got extremely lucky (good for them obviously).

Don't get me wrong, they were already a great team prior to the KD acquisition (they went 73-9 in 2016 without KD). Having said that, they weren't hands down the best team in the league back then (despite the record). I mean, they lost to the Cavs that year, not to mention LeBron almost beat them by himself in 2015.

2.) Trading the Nets pick means we are in win-now mode. I wouldn't want us to sacrifice our future based on the hope that the Warriors are gonna face an injury crisis during the playoffs.


Never said ''so let's not even try''. Hayward on his own would have made the C's hands down second best team in the East (assuming IT would be 100% healthy for the playoffs).

We still have a pretty good pick from the Lakers on the way and our own pick, not to mention Jaylen and Jayson. People fell way too in love with that Nets pick. No guarantee it lands as high as this year's or that the player selected is as good as Kyrie - who's only 25, btw.

In all likelihood, our pick is gonna end up in the late 20s. Sure, we have either the Lakers or the Kings(/Sixers) pick, but we could have had one more lotto pick. Kyrie is not gonna help us beat the Warriors. In fact, no one is gonna help us beat the Warriors. We are sacrificing future assets and we are gonna hit a dead end. At least that's my point of view.

Wonder what the Spurs think of that. Because they looked plenty capable of competing before Zaza took matters into his own hands with Kawhi.

You never answered my question of what should we do if another team rises up while we're waiting for the Warriors to fade? Philly's already got a young talented core. There's always a super team in the league, no one's stepping aside when we decide it's our turn.

I guess some people just like the idea of competing instead actually trying to compete.

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

I'm not reading any of the comments before I interpret what I just saw so not to affect my feelings.

KI is a smart dude who's thoughts seem to move like his crossovers. Most of us here with ADHD get that. His brain is way faster than his words so much faster he forgets what he was going to say because he's 6 thoughts ahead of it so he wings it. He hasn't learned to just keep it short so he rambles.

He's going to make for some interesting interviews and local talk show host are going to have a field day on him being a space cadet.

GH seems really excited. He's pretty much what you would expect his intro conference would be.

It's very clear they are building a team of gym nerds (smart on and off the court). Let's call it the James Young effect.

I have ADHD too and I can ramble for hours so it didn't bother me as much, but a few people have mentioned it so it must be worse than I noticed (my family had to learn to tune me out very early lol). It's hard for me to stay tuned into what I'm saying and I have been trying to work on it for years. Oh well, I'm fine with talking to myself!

I have ADD too, but it's my wife who talks to herself.

I ask her why she talks to herself, and she says to me " sometimes it's the only person I can have an intelligent conversation with!". She knows how to zing me.

Ouch lol! Smart lady! They say it's healthy to talk to yourself but when I was a kid my mom told me it's fine as long as you don't answer yourself... I obviously failed that part! (who is "they" I don't know but I have heard it a lot haha)

[Jvalin]

Imo, the best thing we could have done was to be patient and build through the draft. 

Because draft picks never bust?

Because imo no matter what we do we aren't beating the Warriors.

I don't understand the thought process. "The Warriors can't be beat, so let's not even try." You do your team such a disservice there. 1.) What happens if, while we waiting for the Warriors dynasty to go away, another arises? Should we keep kicking the can down the road? 2.) Injuries happen. We won in 2008 and were a supposed lock to get back the next year, but we didn't even make it back to the Finals that year because of KG's knee. Just punting on actually being competitive means you miss opportunities.

1.) The Warriors can't be beaten because of a loophole. If it weren't for the sudden increase in the salary cap, they would never have gotten KD. Things like that rarely happen. The Warriors got extremely lucky (good for them obviously).

Don't get me wrong, they were already a great team prior to the KD acquisition (they went 73-9 in 2016 without KD). Having said that, they weren't hands down the best team in the league back then (despite the record). I mean, they lost to the Cavs that year, not to mention LeBron almost beat them by himself in 2015.

2.) Trading the Nets pick means we are in win-now mode. I wouldn't want us to sacrifice our future based on the hope that the Warriors are gonna face an injury crisis during the playoffs.


Never said ''so let's not even try''. Hayward on his own would have made the C's hands down second best team in the East (assuming IT would be 100% healthy for the playoffs).

We still have a pretty good pick from the Lakers on the way and our own pick, not to mention Jaylen and Jayson. People fell way too in love with that Nets pick. No guarantee it lands as high as this year's or that the player selected is as good as Kyrie - who's only 25, btw.

In all likelihood, our pick is gonna end up in the late 20s. Sure, we have either the Lakers or the Kings(/Sixers) pick, but we could have had one more lotto pick. Kyrie is not gonna help us beat the Warriors. In fact, no one is gonna help us beat the Warriors. We are sacrificing future assets and we are gonna hit a dead end. At least that's my point of view.

Wonder what the Spurs think of that. Because they looked plenty capable of competing before Zaza took matters into his own hands with Kawhi.

You never answered my question of what should we do if another team rises up while we're waiting for the Warriors to fade? Philly's already got a young talented core. There's always a super team in the league, no one's stepping aside when we decide it's our turn.

I guess some people just like the idea of competing instead actually trying to compete.

I did answer it. Sure, the Sixers (among other teams) look promising but it's not the same thing. I mean, the Warriors are quite possibly the best team in NBA history.

1.) The Warriors can't be beaten because of a loophole. If it weren't for the sudden increase in the salary cap, they would never have gotten KD. Things like that rarely happen. The Warriors got extremely lucky (good for them obviously).

Don't get me wrong, they were already a great team prior to the KD acquisition (they went 73-9 in 2016 without KD). Having said that, they weren't hands down the best team in the league back then (despite the record). I mean, they lost to the Cavs that year, not to mention LeBron almost beat them by himself in 2015.

The way I see it, it's as if we were in the early 90s and we were trying to compete against the Bulls. That's how good I believe this Warriors team is.

Don't believe the Spurs can beat them either (in a best-of-seven series). Hope you are right though. I guess time will tell.