What the hell is plan b if this falls apart

[kozlodoev]

How do we react? Rookies
Get a lot more time Tatum Brown play huge mins. Rozier needs to take a huge leap. Or does Ainge have backup plan? Westbrook maybe anther buy low option like he did on It4? Idk going to be an interesting week .

Question # 1
I'm sorry, but are we talking about the same Westbrook that just won the MVP as a "buy-low option"?

Question # 2
Did Triboy create another account?

This is probably supposed to read "Westbrook[, or] maybe another buy low option". It's tough to tell when the text is lacking a basic level of literacy.

[PhoSita]

Shrug shoulders, make the best of it.

Find a different trade for Crowder.

Help IT rehab and see if he wants to play half a season plus the playoffs to try and get a max contract from somebody other than the Celtics.

Try to win another playoff series.

Develop the youngsters. Integrate Hayward.

Consider our options for trade or free agency to replace IT when he leaves next summer.

Nothing drastic. Just means the ceiling on the next three to five years is considerably lowered.

But hey, we can still get excited about yet another Nets pick that might turn into a top pick Danny will just trade for future assets anyhow....

And we can talk ourselves into Anthony Davis as a realistic trade target, too.

[greece66]

How do we react? Rookies
Get a lot more time Tatum Brown play huge mins. Rozier needs to take a huge leap. Or does Ainge have backup plan? Westbrook maybe anther buy low option like he did on It4? Idk going to be an interesting week .

Given that what you're seeing right now wasn't really a plan, I'm not sure why we need plan B.

What Kozlo says. It's not like the C's FO was planning all summer to get Kyrie.

[celticinorlando]

Plan B is watching Thomas make no progress and having to be shutdown around December for surgery. That ends his time with Boston.

I don't think they get anything out of Thomas this season. He will deal with this throughout the season.

[blink]

My guess would be that we would let IT have surgery / rehab, trade crowder for a serviceable guard, can be either a ball handler or shooter (we adjust our lineups a bit according to what Jae's trade brings back).  We keep Zizic for now as big man depth.

Maybe our starting linup is:  Smart, Brown, GH, AH, Morris
with a second unit of Rozier, guard traded via Crowder trade, Tatum, Barnes, Semi or Yabu

We still have a good lineup.  But it does require Brown and Tatum to play to their capabilities.

[Ogaju]

My guess would be that we would let IT have surgery / rehab, trade crowder for a serviceable guard, can be either a ball handler or shooter (we adjust our lineups a bit according to what Jae's trade brings back).  We keep Zizic for now as big man depth.

Maybe our starting linup is:  Smart, Brown, GH, AH, Morris
with a second unit of Rozier, guard traded via Crowder trade, Tatum, Barnes, Semi or Yabu

We still have a good lineup.  But it does require Brown and Tatum to play to their capabilities.

they will play to their capabilities, the question is will they play to their expectations?

[ashanm10]

How do we react? Rookies
Get a lot more time Tatum Brown play huge mins. Rozier needs to take a huge leap. Or does Ainge have backup plan? Westbrook maybe anther buy low option like he did on It4? Idk going to be an interesting week .

Given that what you're seeing right now wasn't really a plan, I'm not sure why we need plan B.

What Kozlo says. It's not like the C's FO was planning all summer to get Kyrie.

Yup, we go forth with whatever it is ^^

More.playing time for the youth too anyway xd

[blink]

My guess would be that we would let IT have surgery / rehab, trade crowder for a serviceable guard, can be either a ball handler or shooter (we adjust our lineups a bit according to what Jae's trade brings back).  We keep Zizic for now as big man depth.

Maybe our starting linup is:  Smart, Brown, GH, AH, Morris
with a second unit of Rozier, guard traded via Crowder trade, Tatum, Barnes, Semi or Yabu

We still have a good lineup.  But it does require Brown and Tatum to play to their capabilities.

they will play to their capabilities, the question is will they play to their expectations?

you will have to ask them that! haha.  i just hope they play to Brad Stevens expectations.  If that happens we will probably be a high seed in the east.

[Granath]

Plan B? Simple.

Keep what you have. If IT isn't ready at the start of the season, start Smart. He showed he can run the offense last year. We're already strong enough for a top 4 seed as-is and wait for IT to come back (because I doubt he'd be out of the season).

About the time IT comes back - let's say at the ASB - move Crowder for the best available big. Enter the playoffs with a rested IT, more developed youth, a deeper bench and home court in the 1st round. We're good enough against anyone to play on their court and still have a chance of winning, including Cleveland. It's not the ideal scenario but it's not like our season is a total loss or anything because Kyrie isn't coming.

[Big333223]

How do we react? Rookies
Get a lot more time Tatum Brown play huge mins. Rozier needs to take a huge leap. Or does Ainge have backup plan? Westbrook maybe anther buy low option like he did on It4? Idk going to be an interesting week .

Even if the Cavs veto the deal.... I think the league will step into this one and force the Celtics to give up minimal compensation  (example happened with Jeff Green with OKC trade. Celtics received a future 2nd)

best case, all Danny has to do is give up a few 2nd round picks extra for all of this mess

If not the Celts give up their own 2019 1st

Cavs really can't ask for more as the 2019 Memphis or Clippers pick are valuable.   Memphis could be a borderline playoff team next season and Celts could net a 15-17 pick. Clippers could blow it up after this season. Who knows

There is no justification for the NBA to step in.  The trade is not complete until the Cavs accept IT's physical.  If they don't, the trade just doesn't happen.  Irving remains an Cav and IT, Crowder, Ziziv remain Celtics and there is nothing to provide compensation for.   

fwiw, I found an NBA statement on that Jeff Green controversy:

Stern found that there was no evidence of bad faith or any intent to withhold information on the part of Thunder management or its physicians, but that Oklahoma City’s cardiologists were in possession of information about Jeff Green that was not shared with Thunder management and that should have been disclosed to the Celtics in connection with the trade of Green in February 2011.

http://pr.nba.com/nba-ruling-celtics-thunder-trade/

If the Celtics really push back on giving up future assetts, I wonder what the league might say. With Green, the C's were awarded a draft pick even though "there was no evidence of bad faith or any intent to withhold information".

[tazzmaniac]

How do we react? Rookies
Get a lot more time Tatum Brown play huge mins. Rozier needs to take a huge leap. Or does Ainge have backup plan? Westbrook maybe anther buy low option like he did on It4? Idk going to be an interesting week .

Even if the Cavs veto the deal.... I think the league will step into this one and force the Celtics to give up minimal compensation  (example happened with Jeff Green with OKC trade. Celtics received a future 2nd)

best case, all Danny has to do is give up a few 2nd round picks extra for all of this mess

If not the Celts give up their own 2019 1st

Cavs really can't ask for more as the 2019 Memphis or Clippers pick are valuable.   Memphis could be a borderline playoff team next season and Celts could net a 15-17 pick. Clippers could blow it up after this season. Who knows

There is no justification for the NBA to step in.  The trade is not complete until the Cavs accept IT's physical.  If they don't, the trade just doesn't happen.  Irving remains an Cav and IT, Crowder, Ziziv remain Celtics and there is nothing to provide compensation for.   

fwiw, I found an NBA statement on that Jeff Green controversy:

Stern found that there was no evidence of bad faith or any intent to withhold information on the part of Thunder management or its physicians, but that Oklahoma City’s cardiologists were in possession of information about Jeff Green that was not shared with Thunder management and that should have been disclosed to the Celtics in connection with the trade of Green in February 2011.

http://pr.nba.com/nba-ruling-celtics-thunder-trade/

If the Celtics really push back on giving up future assetts, I wonder what the league might say. With Green, the C's were awarded a draft pick even though "there was no evidence of bad faith or any intent to withhold information".

The Green trade was completed.  So we got compensation once the heart issue was discovered and the OKC failure to provide all information came to light.  If the heart issue had been discovered during the physical at the time of the trade, the trade wouldn't have been completed and there wouldn't have been any need for compensation. 

[Dino Pitino]

If it's voided I bet we can still win 50 games with Smart as PG.

[Redz]

What the hell is plan b if this falls apart?

Stoke up the Brooklyn Nets thread again!

[celticinorlando]

If it's voided I bet we can still win 50 games with Smart as PG.

I would take that bet. Smart would struggle in that role

[ozgod]

How do we react? Rookies
Get a lot more time Tatum Brown play huge mins. Rozier needs to take a huge leap. Or does Ainge have backup plan? Westbrook maybe anther buy low option like he did on It4? Idk going to be an interesting week .

Even if the Cavs veto the deal.... I think the league will step into this one and force the Celtics to give up minimal compensation  (example happened with Jeff Green with OKC trade. Celtics received a future 2nd)

best case, all Danny has to do is give up a few 2nd round picks extra for all of this mess

If not the Celts give up their own 2019 1st

Cavs really can't ask for more as the 2019 Memphis or Clippers pick are valuable.   Memphis could be a borderline playoff team next season and Celts could net a 15-17 pick. Clippers could blow it up after this season. Who knows

Deals require passing a physical to be completed though. That's a condition of the trade. Right now there's no deal, nothing has been signed. The NBA can't force any team to give up minimal compensation to complete a deal. Who would determine what minimum compensation means anyway? I'm sure Boston and Cleveland have different opinions on what that constitutes.

Nonetheless, I'm pretty the deal will go through, both teams have a lot to lose if it doesn't. I'm sure Ainge would have expected the Cavs to do this, it's a shady move but not unexpected. He probably already has his sweetener all planned if the Cavs try to play some really stupid brinkmanship. He won't let this deal go down the drain but he won't do anything stupid either.